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Yeah, I can see that. We are on the same page.

Or they are just trolling. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be that stupid and still function.

And you were right, took me longer to see it than I liked, but you were right all along.

If you find the drivel, lies, nonsense, codswallop, flapdoodle and just plain bullshit max spews "delightful" then by all means, enjoy.

The rest of of have something to contribute, no matter how small, max does not. If you disagree, such is your right.

It's a bizarre combination of things. They are "stupid" because they refuse to entertain anything which would disrupt their preconceived conclusions. They just won't "go there". It's just a trolling/attention game for them after you reach that point. It's just round after round of: "What about THIS"? "DEBUNK THIS", ad infinitum. They think there MUST be something to what Nancy is saying. I gave her the benefit of the doubt back in 2002 as well. Then the images came out. It became clear that Nancy was not only wrong, but lying through her(or "Zetas") teeth. It's all a carefully contrived house of cards, one built on another. There simply is no THERE, there, when you really look with a critical eye. Nancy's supporters simply will NOT look with a critical eye. That's the difference.

Agreed 100%. let max waste his time, not that he actually has anything else to do with his time. Let him spam the thread as much as he wants just don't respond.

This is one of the funniest things ever written by Nancy, full of new terms like "hosed by the tail", "slow creep" and "sweeping arms of the sun". Its hard to know where to start deconstructing and disproving this incredible collection of nonsensical statements. Remember, this "happened" in 2003.
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Since the Earth encountered Planet X in her orbit on Dec 25, 2003, her orbit has stalled, as she encountered an elephant in the road at this point and could not pass. Planet X had been plunging toward the Sun, rapidly entering the solar system in the short years prior to 2003 at a speed close to the speed of light. As Planet X approached the Sun in early 2003, brilliant Second Sun sightings and photos were possible because the Earth was on the opposite side of the Sun from the approaching Planet X, and thus sunlight was reflected off the dust cloud and bounced back toward Earth. Then came the encounter with Planet X in Earth's orbit, and things changed. As Planet X was moving, still, toward the Sun, sunlight now was at its back, bouncing back toward the Sun, and visibility of this dust shrouded planet changed from brilliant and dramatic Second Sun sightings to puzzlement. Like an object in a fog bank, it was lost to view except for those times when its swirling tail and moons caught sunlight and deflected this to Earth. Evidence of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, slowly passing the S Pole of the Sun, was reduced to taking the pulse of Earth herself - increased earthquakes, volcanic activity, an Earth wobble evident to those astute enough to take note, and erratic weather accompanying the wobble. The eddy flow created by particles flowing coming from the Sun and thence around the sides of Planet X trapped Earth in her stalled orbit, and held her there in front of Planet X, no escape. As Planet X proceeded past the Sun's S Pole in his sling orbit, he went within the orbit of Venus, and thus likewise trapped Venus in this eddy flow cup when she came round in her orbit to encounter Planet X. The Earth's dark twin, sharing an orbit with Earth, joined this group of trapped planets within months, remaining behind the Earth, likewise stalled in their shared orbit, a dark hunk of black rock reflecting little light and thus essentially invisible to man. This has been the setup throughout 2004 and into 2005, the rapid plunge of Planet X toward the Sun countered by the Repulsion Force into a slow creep past the Sun. This is not a static condition, however.

Caught in the eddy flow cup, Venus and Earth and her dark twin are pushed backwards in their orbits as Planet X progresses in its retrograde sling orbit past the Sun. For those who think that this would result in horrific trauma on Earth, we point to what causes orbits in the first place, the gentle nudge from the sweeping arms of the Sun causing all the planets in the solar system to move in the same direction, counterclockwise, around the Sun. Orbits are not sacred, they are composed of planets bobbling in particle flows and nudged into momentum when these particle flows have force and direction. Orbits can move in one direction or another, without impact on the planets which are passive during this process. We have described the point where Planet X pierces the Ecliptic, moving from alignment with the Sun's magnetic field where the lines go into the Sun's S Pole to alignment with the magnetic field where the lines come out from the Sun's N Pole as a time of 270° roll for Planet X. It turns in place 180° to point its N Pole away from the Sun's S Pole, then stands upright at the Ecliptic, and later does another 270° roll while adjusting to the magnetic flow lines coming out from the Sun's N Pole. Lately it has been noted that Planet X appears slightly to the right of the Sun, when sighted or captured on film. We explained that during this 270° roll, the N Pole of Planet X swings round according to the retrograde rotation of Planet X, clockwise, and thus the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X emerges on the right side. This causes Earth to scuttle even faster backward in her orbit, to the left, to escape this hose of magnetic particles. This is where we are today, in the Spring of 2006. For those who say such maneuvers of Earth would be apparent, announced loudly by astronomers, we point to the many observations that things are not normal, and the obvious cover-up against admission that Planet X is in the inner solar system, to dampen panic in the populace. Just why do you suppose Bush is frantic to be sitting on all the world's oil fields at this time, if not that he realizes a pole shift is around the corner? To prevent such panic as might allow Bush to declare martial law, we and other benign aliens tweak the planets and the Moon for key events like an eclipse to simulate normalcy, and tip the globe to simulate the seasons, giving the appearance of apparent precision in astrophysics.

What comes next? Early in the ZetaTalk saga we described the ZetaTalk Triangle, the relationship between the Earth, Sun, and Planet X when Planet X pierces the Ecliptic. This ZetaTalk triangle was featured in July 2003 in dual Wisconsin crop circles, a move that was made by ourselves and others in support of a beleaguered Nancy who had suffered through our White Lie regarding the May 15, 2003 date. What puzzled many was the placement of Planet X to the right of the Earth, when we likewise had described the pole shift as occurring when Planet X stands between the Sun and Earth, supplanting the Sun's dominance as the largest magnet in the solar system. Based on our more recent description of the 270° roll and the Earth scuttling to the left to avoid the hose of magnetic particles, this triangle can be fitted into the larger equation. At the point the Ecliptic is pierced, Planet X has pointed its N Pole away from the Sun, and toward Earth. Earth reacts by leanings its N Pole away, into the 3 days of darkness predicted for the northern hemisphere. Prior to this, as the N Pole of Planet X is swinging round, the Earth falls on its side, as we have described, the N Pole of Earth to the left in the extreme, thence rolling into the 3 days of darkness as Planet X points its N Pole directly at Earth. This is a rapid and highly dramatic time for Earth, lasting but days at each stage, but what of the months leading into this drama? Earth scuttles back in her orbit, Planet X is seen to the right of the Sun, and increasingly coming closer and appearing larger and unmistakably not as a solar flare or sundog, and the Earth falls to her side, little by little. This makes for a lopsided arc of the Sun across the sky during the day, the Sun not where expected, hardly something the pat excuse for the Earth changes, global warming, could accomplish. During this slow 270° roll Planet X is steadfastly moving closer to the Earth, as the diagrams Nancy and friends have constructed show. It not only appears larger in the sky, it has a steadily stronger grip on the Atlantic Rift and the poles, creating a stronger and more violent wobble. This equates to stronger quakes and volcanic activity, wilder weather, and the populace starting to question matters in a shrill, not polite, manner. If this is global warming, what is that to the right of the Sun, and why is the Earth falling to her side? We predict the White House will shutter their windows and refuse questions on the matter, if they are functioning at all at that time.

Well said!

If anyone ever question her absolute lack of astronomical knowledge, this should take care of that!

Nothing will suffice to show zetadrool wrong because it is a religion, not a scientific operation.

I can't believe that she said those things.

The eddy and flow of Venus backward yet everything in the heavens stays in place....

Perceptual whiplash.

The laughable (or sad, depending on how you look at it) is that there are actually people who fall for that crap!

Hey if you liked that one, there are lots more where it came from.

I refuse to get into "arguments" with him. You're right...his circular logic is frustrating. He ignores evidence presented before him. When he posts claims about the moon or the sun, I simply tell him we've been through it before and until he can provide some kind of documentation backing up his claims then he shall forever remain wrong.

A simpler way to handle freaky is simply to not say anything to him at all.

I always like it when she uses terms like "lean to the right" or "scuttle to the left." Directions like that have no meaning unless you have a common frame of reference. Lean to the right or scuttle to the left compared to what?

And yet, another option and probably the wisest choice.

It is certainly the easiest. There is no sense talking to him, he is just trolling anyway and won't learn a thing. Just let him babble away and pay him no attention. Same with luser.

I asked about that once, but she didn't answer. Instead her trolls pounced and told me that if I couldn't find left and right I was a moron. LOL

That sounds about right for them. After all, they can't seem to grasp the fact that when something appears to the right of the sun at sunset, it will appear to the left at sunrise. They think it is to the "right of the sun" all the time.

I tried explaining in simple terms, that if you are facing north and there is a tree on your left, and then you turn to face the south, the tree will now be on your right, and if you turn to face the east, the tree will not be visible at all because it is behind you. Apparently it went right over their heads though.

It may have for some of them, but certainly not all. They probably just decided it was best to save face and not comment.

As someone who is part Canadian, I find the reference to the "hosing of the tail" to be really humorous.

I can't help but laugh at this:



This thing has been sitting near the sun for what? Almost six years. Man, that planet is slow!

Yet it travels at almost the speed of light

Actually, she strongly implied that a planet such as PX could travel FASTER than light. I'm not digging up the quote again, but it's one that the bunkers say can't exist, but when we pull it up, they just fall silent on the matter.

Oh yeah, I forgot that it screeched to a halt and went into "slow creep" mode. LOL

Last Edited by KeepingItReal on 06/16/2009 09:57 PM

And we observe so many OTHER planets behaving the same way -- we have, after all seen hundreds of natural objects decelerate...

Oh, wait. We have yet to observe a SINGLE natural object in the cosmos decelerate, EVER?

Imagine that.

Or that things are completely inverted for those in the opposite hemisphere.

Now that would just confound them.

I see we have ACs on Soledad's thread demanding that the debunkers identify themselves and their credentials or we have no credibility. Of course Nancy is credible.