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Interesting. I was just over at the "debunker Zeta thread" and they were quoting me and Bukketgirl. Guess they really can't generate a conversation of their own!
Quoting: Soledad

Says Soledad on a thread with 9 pages about a thread with 24 pages.

Trust in Soledad as she is the new emissary to mankind WARNING us of the impending DOOM to befall us from the Terror from the Sky.

Move over Nancy...you have become surplus to requirements.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/17/2009 06:34 PM

She is the new queen of irony. First she complains about how we inject ourselves into their threads, and now that we have removed ourselves, she has to come here to see what we are up to.

Yes the bunkers are rudderless with out us. The truth is there now for all to see!!

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/17/2009 06:34 PM

Yes. It is an integral part of her zetatalk website that Ms LIEDer has installed within her writings. Her followers/believers just mimic the same mantra of us versus them. They know no other way.

Especially with the fact that every aspect of Ms LIEDer's doomsday scenario has been thoroughly debunked.

And more importantly, given the fact that there is NO rogue planet within our inner solar system, Ms LIEDer and the bunkers must distract the conversation with all manner of entertainment.

Thread: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ...



Yes the debunkers have more class than their bunker counterparts. This has been proven time and time again.

.....Bucketheadgirl is missing something alright...the fact that we are

And by the way, good cultie disciples nearly never turn on each other due to the mind control factor. They are
there amongst themselves to stroke their collective cultie egos.

P R I C E L E S S!!

We have daylight saving time in some countries around the world due to the attempt to cover up your rogue planet?

ROFLMAO

Nuts!.....I will have to agree with you on that score, Bucketheadgirl. Nuts! doesn't even begin to cover describing you. Have a nice day!!

I just read Burketgirls post about religion and how she saw preachers use doom and damnation to threaten the congregation into falling into step. What amazes me is that she doesn't see the irony in her own assessment. She blindly believes Nancy, she steadfastly believes that the sun is not where it should be based on her observation of how the sun shines on a spot in her yard, but when offered simple methods for testing this, she commented that she was much to busy to investigate it. How is Nancy any different from the preachers she criticises in her post? Nancy expects you to take her word on everything, she does not allow questions unless they are soft questions that she can use to support her work, and if that fails she edits content, censors and bans people. Her whole message is based on fear and doom. Amazing that Burkettgirl doesn't see the parallel.

Soledad is obviously no different than the average bunker. LYING appears to be no problem for the bunkers.

Bucketheadgirl is just another gullible follower....

She's blind to her own ignorance...like all the rest of Nancy's flock.

It's not looking good for the claim made by the "Zetas" that the Air France plane was brought down by some "electromagnetic flux" that caused an electrical failure. Based on preliminary information, it appears the plane hit severe turbulence that compromised the structural integrity of the aircraft.

"SAO PAULO – Autopsies have revealed fractures in the legs, hips and arms of Air France disaster victims, injuries that — along with the large pieces of wreckage pulled from the Atlantic — strongly suggest the plane broke up in the air, experts said Wednesday.

With more than 400 bits of debris recovered from the ocean's surface, the top French investigator expressed optimism about discovering what brought down Flight 447, but he also called the conditions — far from land in very deep waters — "one of the worst situations ever known in an accident investigation."

French investigators are beginning to form "an image that is progressively less fuzzy," Paul-Louis Arslanian, who runs the French air accident investigation agency BEA, told a news conference outside Paris.

"We are in a situation that is a bit more favorable than the first days," Arslanian said. "We can say there is a little less uncertainty, so there is a little more optimism. ... (but) it is premature for the time being to say what happened."

A spokesman for Brazilian medical examiners told The Associated Press on Wednesday that fractures were found in autopsies on an undisclosed number of the 50 bodies recovered so far. The official spoke on condition he not be named due to department rules.

"Typically, if you see intact bodies and multiple fractures — arm, leg, hip fractures — it's a good indicator of a midflight break up," said Frank Ciacco, a former forensic expert at the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. "Especially if you're seeing large pieces of aircraft as well."

The pattern of fractures was first reported Wednesday by Brazil's O Estado de S. Paulo newspaper, which cited unnamed investigators. The paper also reported that some victims were found with little or no clothing, and had no signs of burns.

That lack of clothing could be significant, said Jack Casey, an aviation safety consultant in Washington, D.C., who is a former accident investigator. "In an in-air break up like we are supposing here, the clothes are just torn away."

Casey also said multiple fractures are consistent with a midair breakup of the plane, which was cruising at about 34,500 feet (10,500 meters) when it went down.

"Getting ejected into that kind of windstream is like hitting a brick wall — even if they stay in their seats, it is a crushing effect," Casey said. "Most of them were long dead before they hit the water would be my guess."

When a jet crashes into water mostly intact — such as the Egypt Air plane that hit the Atlantic Ocean after taking off from New York in 1999 — debris and bodies are generally broken into small pieces, Ciacco said. "When you've had impact in the water, there is a lot more fragmentation of the bodies. They hit the water with a higher force."

Lack of burn evidence would not necessarily rule out an explosion, said John Goglia, a former member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.

If something caused the lower fuselage to burn or explode, "passengers would not be exposed to any blast damage" and the plane would still disintegrate in flight," Goglia said. "These are scenarios that cannot be ruled out."

Searchers from Brazil, France, the United States and other countries are methodically scanning the surface and depths of the Atlantic for signs of the Airbus A330 that crashed May 31 after running into thunderstorms en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. All 228 people aboard were killed.

Brazilian Air Force Col. Henry Munhoz said in a news conference Wednesday that several body parts, as well as pieces of the plane and luggage were found in the search area by the French amphibian ship, Mistral.

Munhoz did not provide further details, and Brazilian Capt. Giucemar Tabosa Cardoso said "a significant" number of body parts had been retrieved from the ocean.

Still missing are the plane's flight data and voice recorders, thought to be deep under water.

French-chartered ships are trolling a search area with a radius of 50 miles (80 kilometers), pulling U.S. Navy underwater listening devices attached to 19,700 feet (6,000 meters) of cable. The black boxes send out an electronic tapping sound that can be heard up to 1.25 miles (2 kilometers) away, but these locator beacons will begin to fade after just two more weeks.

U.S. Air Force Col. Willie Berges, commander of the American military forces supporting the search, said the black boxes emit beacons at a unique frequency, virtually guaranteeing that any signal detected would be from the pingers.

"The question becomes if the black box is with the pinger, because they can get separated," Berges said. "If a signal is located, the French would then send down a robotic vehicle that is in the area to look at it, confirm that it is the black box and bring it up."

Without the black boxes to help explain what went wrong, the investigation has focused on a flurry of automated messages sent by the plane minutes before it lost contact; one suggests external speed sensors had iced over, destabilizing the plane's control systems.

Arslanian said most of the messages appear to be "linked to this loss of validity of speed information." He said when the speed information became "incoherent" it affected other systems on the plane that relied on that speed data. But he stressed that not all the automated messages were related to the speed sensors.

The automated messages were not alarm calls and no distress call was picked up from the plane, he said.

Air France has replaced the sensors, called Pitot tubes, on all its A330 and A340 aircraft, under pressure from pilots who feared a link to the accident.

Arslanian said a French doctor from the BEA was not allowed to participate in autopsies done so far on some Flight 447 bodies by Brazilian authorities, and those autopsy results have not been released to the BEA. He said he was "not happy" with this situation.

However, he added that French judicial authorities, who are conducting a parallel criminal probe, were present at the autopsies.

Brazil's Federal Police and state medical authorities in Recife who are overseeing the autopsies said in a statement that two French investigators, a dental expert and a doctor, had been following the examinations as observers since June 10.

The French are leading the crash investigation, while the Brazilians are leading the rescue operation."

Oh my goodness.

I felt my I.Q drop about 9 points watching that video.

I want that minute and a half of my life back, please. The galactic dumb-ness is staggering.

Since when do time changes effect whether people star watch or not?

And, how can PX set before the Sun, but rise AFTER it? Don't the Zetas understand geometry?

That's hard to say. Since they have no zeros in their number system, it shouldn't surprise us that any prediction made using calculations would be wrong. They obviously also lack the ability to think 3rd dimensionally.

LOL!!

Exactly. Just how gullible does Ms LIEDer really expect folk to be?
I may only know the basics of astronomy myself but man Nancy sure makes a continual habit of coming up with some stupid stupid logic. And when you actually watch her she's doing it with a straight face.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/17/2009 11:12 PM

Thread: Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious ... (Page 4)

"A el contrario"

It is a pleasure to watch the zetatalk "chat" thread self implode from within.

P R I C E L E S S!!

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/18/2009 12:20 AM

Yep, looks like the Air France proclamation made by Nancy is another fail. You would think that she would have learned from the Adam Air crash that its best to keep the predictions vague and plausible, and definitely not start a whole new thread to claim victory and chastise us for not listening to her. I don't know how she will wiggle around that one, but I am sure she is working on it as the new evidence surfaces to disprove her scenario.

Yes she never seems to learn from her previous prediction mistakes.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/18/2009 12:33 AM

Earlier today I posted a trailer from a movie about planet x from the 50's, and also posted something about the Betty and Barney Hill story. It seems that Nancy's version of the Zetas and Planet X are a blend of the two stories.

I have been interested in where the alien sub culture began, was it the result of things that really happened being absorbed by popular culture, or did popular culture create the aliens as fiction and this influences how people describe encounters with unknown phenomenon?

As far as I can tell, there are no references to encounters with aliens until after the Roswell Incident, which spawned B movies, sci fi novels and tv shows featuring aliens. Actually.the War of the Worlds original broadcast predated the Roswell incident by approximately 10 years, but I am hard pressed to come up with any documented stories of encounters by real people prior to the late 40s and early 50's.

Eric Von Daniken explored ancient alien contacts, but his evidence is less than conclusive, and he is focused on proving a link, and lacks objectivity. I suspect that a lot of his information is taken out of context, because the few references that I do have good knowledge of, like the Palenque sarcophagus stone have an explanation in Mayan Culture that has nothing to do with men from outer space. Likewise, the only reference in the Chilam Balaam that could be interpreted as referring to aliens, the "white circles in the sky" also have a secret meaning in the esoteric traditions that again, are not related to the UFO phenomenon, but rather energetic configurations. This makes me suspect the validity of the rest of Von Danikens work.

Similarly, I do not trust the material put forth by the likes of Sitchen and Whitley Streiber because they have no first hand experience with the cultural and linguistic context of their sources. They are out to prove a connection and support a preconceived theory, and they make considerable income from it, thus I cannot consider them reliable sources.

I do know of references to star people in certain indigenous cultures, but I suspect that this should not be taken literally, as much of indigenous culture should not be.

That said, there are things like the Nazca lines in Peru that have yet to be explained. My research on this is far from conclusive and I would be interested in hearing about other information that pushes the origins of human/alien contact stories earlier in time. As I said, I am interested in exploring which came first, the abduction and contactees or popular culture regarding alien life.

Yes. Only a few of the more stranger claims that Nancy has made over the years are clearly original.

The premise of a Planet "X"(Nibiru etc) and the reporting of gray/grey aliens(including the zetas from the Betty & Barney Hill incident) have been around a long time before Ms LIEDer and zetatalk emerged on the internet.

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C L A S S I C !

Adults usually let children play unsupervised and good parents and teachers do not micro-manage their play and creativity - until things become contentious or dangerous, and THEN they step in.

What else happened in the thirties and culminated in the 40s that just might "force" extraterrestrial "parents" to finally step in and start "micro-managing"???

THE SPLITTING OF THE ATOM.

It's like eight year olds playing with real chain saws, firearms, and cutting torches. You BETTER have close adult supervision on hand AT ALL TIMES, or it's gonna get REAL BAD ---> REAL FAST.

Prior to the splitting of the atom, there was nothing "on earth" big and dangerous enough to destroy not just the human species, but earth as a life-sustaining planet.

"Their" timing is not "suspicious" at all. The culture arose from actual sightings and interactions, as cultures ALWAYS DO. They are echos of reality, NOT reality itself.

Get real.

I know, Prof Rabbit.

I have hardly watched any of Nancy's "zeta reports" before.

I mean I really wonder sometimes how the woman keeps a straight face with some of the nonsense she comes out with.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 06/18/2009 08:06 AM

You're like a verbal untreated outback loo - always emitting FOUL oder.

You're mother would be "proud".

Easy. The woman is senile, delusional, and staggeringly ignorant of basic science, even the grade school level science.

When you know essentially nothing you don't know you have said the most profoundly stupid thing, and when it gets pointed out to her she gets all hugffy because she does not want it known she is as stupid as a bag of doorknobs.

Just my take.

every now and then the rotten smell waves through, but dimishes more quick evertime.






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Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
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And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a secret proof by coding something the same way.
56 days ZT not solved
0 debunker solvers accepted
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Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
(from now on, every answer cannot be assumed to be sourcing from "Zetas")

hugffy?

Hm - since long i am suspicious its not that alone.
From Statistical view, she ought to be right every now and then - remember the experiment of letting apes trying to deal with the stocks (which gaves an result better than the average Joe AND the specialist).

No, Her record IS zero - totally zero. There might be the fact that in her word the attention she gets for people contardictiong her bullshit has a more important score than the fact being right or wrong.
Ok, that would be a totally STS behaviour, but who cares? She gets attention even for being contradicted to be STO....

I REALLY look forward how the saturday night chat goes on, i beg all to be strong at least for this one, it would be an uvaluable experience.


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Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions