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This is the most non-nonsensical utterance you've to date spewed. You can't have an "element of doubt" as an article of "faith".

It is a self-negating mental construct. If you have "doubt", you don't have "faith", and vice verse.

"Element" implies "small" - but "doubt" is not "quantitative", but "qualitative" since no two people can effectively find a common and repeatable way to measure it.

Bottom line, there is no "insistence" that Nancy, anywhere, throughout ALL of Zetatalk, has EVER **insisted** that anyone must always believe and never question.

I DARE YOU TO FIND A SINGLE EXAMPLE!

And don't give me :billshit: like: "If what she was peddling was verifiable and provable, then she wouldn't have this issue."

I DARE YOU TO FIND A SINGLE EXAMPLE!

She is VERY understanding and patient -


That's crap. Almost every session she lashes out at someone who is sympathetic. She criticizes them for not reading ZetaTalk and often insults them as well.

I am also known as Melfy; Melfster; Maxipad; Max; Sockster; and many other names too numerous to mention.
I also believe that zetatalk is a huge fraud due to the fact that I am a self proclaimed Fense Shitter.
Due to my Melfdown condition I will be shape shifting into another anytime soon.

Being a "fence sitter" means being undecided...you don't dismiss either side of an argument. But that's all Max and User have done. I've never seen either one of them say that Nancy or the "Zetas" were wrong about something. Instead, they offer excuses or insults.

Those two can really be funny. One "debunker" makes a post over there and they start high fiving each other. Funny how you don't see us bitching about Max being in our thread.


Who's 'us'? I've seen bitching about ZetaMax being here and posting in this thread. He's gotten attacks, insults, and he's been told to leave by some of the posters in this thread.

On page 1, before ZetaMax has posted anything here, he is ridiculed by Lone Ranger. Starts name calling (again!), and ZetaMax points this out, getting this answer from Commentator on page 10:


Don't like melfy, melfster, socky, smelster, stencicles?

How about we just call you "lying sack of shit taking advantage of a senile, delusional old woman so when she dies he can loot her dead cult?" Like that better you useless, lying, pointless sack of rancid parrot shit?


On page 11 ZetaMax makes this request:


PLEASE don't use "melf" (or its derivatives) anymore. It affects me like claws dragging a chalk board. I cringe everytime I see it.

I'm asking nicely.


Only to get this answer from Commentator, who is driven by unforgiving nostalgia and making a threat in case he is ignored by ZM:


This is the second time that you have made this request and I will ask you the same question as last time you asked, a question you ignored: After years of your lies, such as your "paid debunker" lie, after your years of disrespect, rejection of olive branches, and your attitude of overbearing superiority why should I honor your request no matter how nicely it is asked?

Were you proud of your "paid debunker" lie? Did you cheer, even a little just to yourself, everytime your partner in idiocy luser the attack slug leveled the "NASA debunker" lie? Huh? DID YOU?

This is the last time I am asking this question, ignore it and I will call you any damned name that fits your personality and demeanor and if you don't like it, call the chaplain, he cares, I don't.

So think it over very carefully.


And on page 16 we saw the Commentator carrying out his threat this way:


Time is up, melfy.

You ask us to not call you melfy, yet you are without a doubt, the biggest liar, most disrespectful, and staggeringly stupid person I have ever met in my entire life.

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselfs in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you ckoke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

the only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

Request denied, melfy.

Go find another old, senile, delusional woman to exploit.


After which ZM started to receive suggestions to leave this thread:


So go home into your thread - you wanted to have the debunkers off, now be content with it there.



Why the fuck should anyone answer a question from slime like you?

So fuck off.



But your thread is somewhere else...go sockpuppetting there!


Followed by suggestions that everyone starts shunning ZetaMax:


OK, how about for the length of the boycott we simply shun max here?
[snip]
So, let us shun max.



Just shun melfy, if we answer it reinforces his pathology.



Just shun the bunkers and their reason for being here goes away.



Best to shun him.



Shun him, melfy isn't worth the electrons or bandwidth.



Just shun melfy and the problem goes away.



Which is why he needs shunning.


Repeated suggestions usually get some results, that's why they're widely used in all sorts of mind manipulation and propaganda. Some effects to be seen in this thread:


ZM: "These debunker FOOLS are one sad, sorry, insipid LOT!!"

Then don't come here anymore.



I don't expect a straight answer from Max on my question but
I had to ask. I'll go back to shunning now.


Again, suggestions are being repeated by the one and the same Commentator:


So do what the rest of the smart people have done and shun him for the troll he is.



Yup, true story. And we can shorten his time by shunning him as the complete waste of time that he is.



Sounds like luser needs to be shunned as well as melfy.

What say you?



OK, melfy and luser are shunned. Lets make this one spread, neither of them is worth the electrons.


And he gets this agreement from the Lone Ranger:


Agreed. Let's see who else will come on board and shun Max and User.


which encourages the Commentator to escalate his shunning mission further:


Good point, melfy, luser and freaky are just trolls, shunn the lot of them!!!!!


It remains to be seen at which point does the Commentator reach the level of total annihilation of the opponent. The tactic should be pretty obvious to those who are familiar with media and cult studies, war strategy, propaganda, advertising, manipulation, mind control etc.

And so finally the latter part of CB:s post that I quoted in the beginning of this very long post:


Maybe we should have our own chat session on Saturday night and when a bunker makes a post, we should delete it and then ban the poster. But then again, we don't need to stoop to Nancy's level.


Who's 'we'? Not everyone is resorting to that insulting and namecalling activity that all of the debunkers are accused of. Not even the majority of the debunkers are participating in that activity, making "funny" lists and all that. That would be a perception illusion or believing in what's being fed to you by manipulative methods. Are the debunkers willing and able to debunk the bunk found amongst their own threads.

Also, I would add that if the Zetas were real and as advanced as is claimed, they would screen questions for intent and advise Nancy accordingly.

Also, I would add that if the Zetas were real and as advanced as is claimed, they would screen questions for intent and advise Nancy accordingly.


Ms LIEDer definitely does not communicate with advanced ETs. It is fun though to "play along" with Nancy's delusional s

This is true. How can you read ZT and NOT have questions? She just assumes that if we have questions it means we haven't read it.

. Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.

. Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.

Hm - with exact consideration i can state, that in case of a fence shitter the bullshit falls always to the same side of the fence.....

zetamax (nancy), where is planet x?

This is the only question worth asking, and of course like every other question you will get no answer.

I propose that every one should ignore nancy (zetamax). We all know its u nancy so fuck off, get your own thread. Oh you have your own thread dont u, so get back there. your not welcome here.

. Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.




Objective people will realize that pure belief cannot be rationalized.

Hm - with exact consideration i can state, that in case of a fence shitter the bullshit falls always to the same side of the fence.....


:lol4me:.......verified!!

:debunkit:

Hm - with exact consideration i can state, that in case of a fence shitter the bullshit falls always to the same side of the fence.....


.......verified!!




ROFL, but The Sockster gave enough proof herself by the posts...

It`s simple. Use a couple of cameras. Every camera will have the flares at different place so if you see "planet x", for example, on the left side of the Sun with one camera, and on the right - with other, you`ll finally realize there is nothing there (Other than the Sun).

Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.

- snip - That it's somehow invisible?

Furthermore, one who reads with a dispassionate focus, will also quickly encounter the "element of doubt" tenets. Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.

Furthermore, one who reads with a dispassionate focus, will also quickly encounter the "element of doubt" tenets. Objective people will REALIZE that the foundational tenets of ZetaTalk are NOT PROVABLE by ordinary "scientific" means available to the general public.


Therefore: Zetatalk IS a belief/religion/cult.

Thank you for confirming this.

Therefore: Zetatalk IS a belief/religion/cult.

Thank you for confirming this.


ZM
The issue is not whether you "believe" there is a parked planet next to the sun, but rather whether you BELIEVE NASA and the mainstream media's explanations that humans are the sole cause of weather changes and other anomolies. It's about whether you believe that pole shifts have NEVER happened. It's about whether you believe the United States government's assertions that Roswell never happened, and that extraterrestrials are not visiting earth.

The issue is not whether you "believe" there is a parked planet next to the sun, but rather whether you BELIEVE NASA and the mainstream media's explanations that humans are the sole cause of weather changes and other anomolies.

It's about whether you believe that pole shifts have NEVER happened.

It's about whether you believe the United States government's assertions that Roswell never happened, and that extraterrestrials are not visiting earth.

The issue is not whether you "believe" there is a parked planet next to the sun, but rather whether you BELIEVE NASA and the mainstream media's explanations that humans are the sole cause of weather changes and other anomolies. It's about whether you believe that pole shifts have NEVER happened. It's about whether you believe the United States government's assertions that Roswell never happened, and that extraterrestrials are not visiting earth.

If you BELIEVE the above, then you can't be "on the fence" regarding ZetaTalk. You **HAVE** to reject it, otherwise, your ***BELIEF*** in NASA and the mainstream media and popular culture cannot be maintained.

You cannot be on the fence about Zetatalk, while being a FIRM BELIEVER in NASA, a firm believer in government pronouncements about UFO's, a firm believer in ice ages, and that Mammoths were killed off by prehistoric hunters, and a firm believer that all crop circles are made by drunk college students pulling pranks on the world.

If you're on the fence about Zetatalk, then you MUST be on the fence about nearly everything else as well.

It's easy for me to be on the fence regarding Zetatalk, because I am ALSO ON THE FENCE regarding NASA, and ANYTHING the mainstream media says about - well just about "anything" controversial today.

There are no true beleivers in this forum. Even the debunkers cannot believe in every sentence ever uttered by a politician, or a whitehouse spokesperson, or the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

That's why it's easy to "believe" they are PAID to spread the nonsense they do.