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after 2003 i was also almost ready to go into thinking like that. but i decided "not so fast", not to be so quick with conclusions. and now i dont regret.

i, rather think, "how i could be so stupid to possibly reject it all" in a blink of an eye.

and i believe it has not happened YET. its like two parallel timelines: with that of ZetaTalk is ahead of the real time one. and it is deliberate, smart maneuver - to warn, to alert the pupulace.

i remain in the boat with Nancy, Zetas and other folks

watching the signs and preparing.


Of course if you had mastered high school math and physics you would know what a load of bullshit LIEDer is trying to palm off on people even dumber than she is.

But you didn't so you wallow in ignorance.


verifying against human THEORIES - that is extremely reliable way to know what truth is! yea sure...

if something goes against "high school math and physics" maybe the problem is that sacred "math and physics" is wrong not the facts, he?

Humans have a catchy phrase regarding relationships - which came first, the chicken or the egg? Well, of course it was the chicken, who gradually evolved to encase young in a shell long before it evolved to become a chicken. First came dropping the young into a water bed, as fish and frogs do, so the chicken's precursor came first. Humans treat mathematics much this way, expecting the world to line up with their math when the math evolved to describe their world. Starting with simple counting schemes, mathematical descriptions became more and more elaborate as they were endlessly adjusted until they described yet another aspect of nature. When math is used as a tool, and its origins understood, then when a particular model placed upon a natural phenomena does not fit there is no conflict. The mathematical model is understood to be the problem. However, just as there is confusion about the chicken or the egg, most humans lose sight of what came first. They insist the math is sacred, and stubbornly refuse to deal with the discrepancies this approach produces.

Mathematics, for some, has become a religion.

Mathematics builds upon itself, so that concepts put into place are continued and never discarded. Formulas that reasonably describe a situation when measurements are crude are never discarded, but are held up as standards to be disproved and defended. Creativity in math is nil, so that brilliant insights such as Einstein’s are held to ridicule rather than discussed. Thus it is that mathematics are burdened with the absurd as well as the insightful, and thus regularly miss the mark. The Zetas are frequently asked what is wrong with human math, or how to do it right. Frankly, the right math will not be discussed, as this might put mankind on paths they are not yet to trod. As to what is wrong, we would suggest a simple exercise. Face problems with a completely fresh mind, and ploy the math you think would solve that. Compare what you have placed on paper with the traditional math. What differs? What about the traditional math forced it into the tradition? We predict you will find that a long history of being passed forward, regardless of worth, has placed certain formulas into mankind's mathematical view of the world. Would you allow yourself to be treated as the doctors of yore treated patients, by bleeding and starving or opening the head? Are women in labor to die screaming rather than undergo cesarean? Are doctor's not to wash their hands because infection spontaneously generates and germs do not exist?

Mathematical proofs are not "proof". Mathematical proofs only demonstrate that the numbers resulting can be lined up with each other. In fact, this can be assured if one just ensures that the component pieces, in the formulas, are all from the same grab bag. In other words, if one is building a toy city with lego building blocks, one can get everything to line up if all the lego blocks are of a similar size or multiples of this size. To make this all line up, just throw out anything that doesn't fit. This is, in fact, what humans do with their mathematical "proofs". When something doesn't fit, they substitute another lego piece, one from the proper grab bag, and then get smug. They haven't proved anything. They've only gotten their math to line up, and they're not so good at that either. Contradictions are running side by side at the major universities, with the students asked not to question so the professors can continue to be smug. Just pay your tuition and shut up.

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Obviously you do not know what the word "theory" means in a scientific context, which reinforces my hypothesis that you are, so far as an ability to evaluate scientific claims, quite uneducated. Which is exactly what nanny LIEDer wants in her mindless drones.

Tell, us, oh wise one, assuming base 10 number systems, is "2+2=4" a true statement or a false statement.

Show your work.

And if you get that one right we will see if you have learned the math that has been known for over 2000 years.

My guess is you won't even try.
 
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