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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433  United States09/10/2009 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder you're so good at running away from truth and logic! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***What "truth and logic" would that be? Can you be specific? Max, why haven't you answered this? Max, I see you are running away, too. In life, it is wise to pay attention to subtle clues that life presents. For instance, once I saw this site, I KNEW it just had to have valuable information. [link to innerlightmedical.com] Your evasion is noted. You didn't look at the link did you? Yes, I did. So, please explain to us what "truth and logic" you were referring to in your claim of two days ago. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 679804  Finland09/10/2009 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder you're so good at running away from truth and logic! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***What "truth and logic" would that be? Can you be specific? Max, why haven't you answered this? Max, I see you are running away, too. In life, it is wise to pay attention to subtle clues that life presents. For instance, once I saw this site, I KNEW it just had to have valuable information. [link to innerlightmedical.com] ZetaMax, your reasoning is really misunderstanding subtle clues that life presents. Dr Nancy E Leeder reminds you of Nancy Lieder in name only. Words by themselves mean nothing however. You are obviously fooled by words. Why is that? What about what's behind words, meaning meaning of words. Subtle clues are for guidance, that's true, but don't be fooled by wrong clues. This example you offered is an example of a wrong clue. Simple as that. |
User # 78/68  User ID: 681262  Canada09/10/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whew. Did my four mile run this morning...I must finally be getting used to the 6000 ft difference in elevation. Just this week I cut close to four minutes off my time and can do four miles in 35 minutes. Quoting: The Lone RangerThat's a very credible time, over the stated distance, actually. And it's great for the health of the mind and body to maintain some form of regular physical exercise. I am active in several "contact" sports and find it greatly beneficial for my body and mind. Suuurrrreee, you play contact sports. Who do you think you kid? The only person you play with is yourself. Now, go make another stupid movie and earn that paycheque, willya? Last Edited by User # 78/68 on 09/10/2009 02:43 PM |
| User # 78/68 User ID: 681262 Canada09/10/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy "splitting hairs" was an UNDERSTATEMENT. 12 Step programs are predominantly GROUP ORIENTED. As such, they use PEER PRESSURE - which is very similar to parental pressure in it's power and effectiveness in influencing behavior (and in fact exceeds parental pressure in many instances). The peerage of the SUPPORT GROUP is the "Another, in a parent position" ... Quoting: DrPostmanYou'll REALLY over-reaching on *this* one!! WRONG Again! There is NO PEER PRESSURE. We recover through a process of suggestions and most importantly EMPATHY, a concept I think most of Nancy and her crew would find foreign. If pressure is put on an addict to recover they rebel. It's as simple as that. 12 Step programs don't work like group therapy, even though they resemble that in some ways. Why don't you go to a meeting and find out? We have open meetings in every major city and get students who are required to attend a meeting as part of their degree or certification. I have a degree in Psychology. Even if that were true it doesn't mean that you have a clue as to how 12 Step programs really work, and neither does Nancy, obviously. Also, I think my 22 years of personal involvement in NA on top of several years doing Public Information for the West TN Area put any schooling you can claim to shame. You don't learn empathy in a school or from a book. And who claims to be not only trained in psychology but a LAWYER as well! melfy is just another gullible liar. Funny how that "I have 2 degrees" claim gets made whenever one of her supporters can't back up what they claim. User claims the same exact thing. Of course, we will never know where those degrees come from or when. Tisk tisk Postman, you claim not to lie. I've only ever claimed one degree ... a BSc in biology from the University of Western Ontario. I've corrected the debunkers on this numerous times now, yet you guys continue to LIE about it. Why is that? |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy "splitting hairs" was an UNDERSTATEMENT. 12 Step programs are predominantly GROUP ORIENTED. As such, they use PEER PRESSURE - which is very similar to parental pressure in it's power and effectiveness in influencing behavior (and in fact exceeds parental pressure in many instances). The peerage of the SUPPORT GROUP is the "Another, in a parent position" ... Quoting: User # 78/68You'll REALLY over-reaching on *this* one!! WRONG Again! There is NO PEER PRESSURE. We recover through a process of suggestions and most importantly EMPATHY, a concept I think most of Nancy and her crew would find foreign. If pressure is put on an addict to recover they rebel. It's as simple as that. 12 Step programs don't work like group therapy, even though they resemble that in some ways. Why don't you go to a meeting and find out? We have open meetings in every major city and get students who are required to attend a meeting as part of their degree or certification. I have a degree in Psychology. Even if that were true it doesn't mean that you have a clue as to how 12 Step programs really work, and neither does Nancy, obviously. Also, I think my 22 years of personal involvement in NA on top of several years doing Public Information for the West TN Area put any schooling you can claim to shame. You don't learn empathy in a school or from a book. And who claims to be not only trained in psychology but a LAWYER as well! melfy is just another gullible liar. Funny how that "I have 2 degrees" claim gets made whenever one of her supporters can't back up what they claim. User claims the same exact thing. Of course, we will never know where those degrees come from or when. Tisk tisk Postman, you claim not to lie. I've only ever claimed one degree ... a BSc in biology from the University of Western Ontario. I've corrected the debunkers on this numerous times now, yet you guys continue to LIE about it. Why is that? Yes, PostHole, why is that? The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 United States09/10/2009 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder you're so good at running away from truth and logic! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433What "truth and logic" would that be? Can you be specific? Max, why haven't you answered this? Max, I see you are running away, too. In life, it is wise to pay attention to subtle clues that life presents. For instance, once I saw this site, I KNEW it just had to have valuable information. [link to innerlightmedical.com] Your evasion is noted. You didn't look at the link did you? Yes, I did. So, please explain to us what "truth and logic" you were referring to in your claim of two days ago. Still evading answering the question, I see. Typical. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whew. Did my four mile run this morning...I must finally be getting used to the 6000 ft difference in elevation. Just this week I cut close to four minutes off my time and can do four miles in 35 minutes. Quoting: User # 78/68That's a very credible time, over the stated distance, actually. And it's great for the health of the mind and body to maintain some form of regular physical exercise. I am active in several "contact" sports and find it greatly beneficial for my body and mind. Suuurrrreee, you play contact sports. Who do you think you kid? The only person you play with is yourself. Now, go make another stupid movie and earn that paycheque, willya?  The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| User # 78/68 User ID: 681262 Canada09/10/2009 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy "splitting hairs" was an UNDERSTATEMENT. 12 Step programs are predominantly GROUP ORIENTED. As such, they use PEER PRESSURE - which is very similar to parental pressure in it's power and effectiveness in influencing behavior (and in fact exceeds parental pressure in many instances). The peerage of the SUPPORT GROUP is the "Another, in a parent position" ... Quoting: ***ZetaMax***You'll REALLY over-reaching on *this* one!! WRONG Again! There is NO PEER PRESSURE. We recover through a process of suggestions and most importantly EMPATHY, a concept I think most of Nancy and her crew would find foreign. If pressure is put on an addict to recover they rebel. It's as simple as that. 12 Step programs don't work like group therapy, even though they resemble that in some ways. Why don't you go to a meeting and find out? We have open meetings in every major city and get students who are required to attend a meeting as part of their degree or certification. I have a degree in Psychology. Even if that were true it doesn't mean that you have a clue as to how 12 Step programs really work, and neither does Nancy, obviously. Also, I think my 22 years of personal involvement in NA on top of several years doing Public Information for the West TN Area put any schooling you can claim to shame. You don't learn empathy in a school or from a book. And who claims to be not only trained in psychology but a LAWYER as well! melfy is just another gullible liar. Funny how that "I have 2 degrees" claim gets made whenever one of her supporters can't back up what they claim. User claims the same exact thing. Of course, we will never know where those degrees come from or when. Tisk tisk Postman, you claim not to lie. I've only ever claimed one degree ... a BSc in biology from the University of Western Ontario. I've corrected the debunkers on this numerous times now, yet you guys continue to LIE about it. Why is that? Yes, PostHole, why is that? ZetaMax, how you doin? I don't think Dr Postman knows one whit about the psychology of the organization he claims he has been a member of for all of these years. Of course "peer" pressure plays a role! Otherwise, why have people stand up and relay their experiences both good and bad. Sure empathy plays a role, but many empathetic people in a room all concentrating on the same person can have a positive "peer" pressure influence. These debunkers are so damned determined to speak against anything Nancy Lieder says they actually smack themselves in the face doing so. Funny shit, it is! |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No wonder you're so good at running away from truth and logic! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433What "truth and logic" would that be? Can you be specific? Max, why haven't you answered this? Max, I see you are running away, too. In life, it is wise to pay attention to subtle clues that life presents. For instance, once I saw this site, I KNEW it just had to have valuable information. [link to innerlightmedical.com] Your evasion is noted. You didn't look at the link did you? Yes, I did. So, please explain to us what "truth and logic" you were referring to in your claim of two days ago. Still evading answering the question, I see. Typical. Such as explaining why there is a FROZEN tropical forest buried on the North Slope of Alaska? Many GLPer's are familiar with Lindsey Williams, and his book:  For those still unfamiliar, I invite you to check out his YouTube presentation on the topic: What you are *NOT* familiar with, unless you have read his book in its entirety (and I'm sure that's very few if any here at GLP), is that something *ELSE* of MONUMENTAL IMPORTANCE is also chronicled in his book. It is a subject that he admits is "off topic", but included it in his book because of it's vast human interest. Here it is: There is an interesting point to mention in passing. Though the ground is frozen for 1,900 feet down from the surface at Prudoe Bay,  everywhere the oil companies drilled around the area they discovered an ancient tropical forest. It was in a frozen state, not in petrified state. It is between 1,100 and 1,700 feet down. There are palm trees, pine trees, and tropical foliage in great profusion. In fact, they found them lapped all over each other, just as though they had fallen in that position. What great catastrophe caused this massive upheaval, and then led to such dramatic changes in climate? (*WHAT??* Indeed!! - ZetaMax) We stress again that everything is frozen - not petrified - and that the whole area has never once thawed since that great catastrophe took place. So what could possibly cause these dramatic happenings? ... It is interesting to notice that tropical ferns have also been found at the Antarctic, and the evidence from these two areas, considered together, certainly suggests that there has been a dramatic change from a worldwide tropical climate to an Arctic climate within datable times. ... The finding of underground tropical growth is not hearsay, for I have personally watched these palm trees and other types of tropical plants being brought to the surface. Let me give you two examples. One day I watched as a pine cone was brought up from a well ... and when we first saw it, it looked just exactly as it would look on a young pine tree today. It was closed and we put it in an office on the premises of Atlantic Richfield. We simply put it on the desk and left it. The next day we came back and the pine cone had opened up. You could quite clearly see the seeds on the inside of the cone. This was obviously after thousands of years of being in a frozen state, hundreds of feet beneath the surface. I personally have palm fronds in my home which were brought up from some 1,700 feet below the surface. Again I would like to make an observation, without necessarily giving an opinion, because I do not regard myself as an expert in this area. I simply want to state that consistently this tropical forest was found between 1,100 and 1,700 feet beneath the surface. The actual base of the perpetually frozen ground is approximately 200 feet below the depth of the frozen tropical forest. The oil is found at a depth of 8,700 feet, average, and it is amazing to realize that it comes from that depth without artificial pumping. Lindsey Williams, "The Energy Non-Crisis": Worth Publishing Company, 1980, pgs 54-57. It is clear that Pastor Williams was not familiar with the "Pole Shift" concept when he wrote this book in 1979 (first Published in 1980) - for his admittedly "non-expert" opinion is that the entire globe was "a worldwide tropical climate" that went "to an Arctic climate within datable times." Even though he offers no scientific data here, other sources date these finds to the Pleistecene Era - known commonly as the last ICE AGE. But how could that be?? How could palm trees grow in area that was supposed to be covered with an ice sheet thousands of feet thick??? Prudoe Bay is *above* the Arctic Circle. The only explanation that accounts for this evidence is not Ice Ages, and not worldwide tropics, but POLE SHIFTS. And what would cause such a catastrophic, rapid shift of the Earth's crust? PLANET X. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy "splitting hairs" was an UNDERSTATEMENT. 12 Step programs are predominantly GROUP ORIENTED. As such, they use PEER PRESSURE - which is very similar to parental pressure in it's power and effectiveness in influencing behavior (and in fact exceeds parental pressure in many instances). The peerage of the SUPPORT GROUP is the "Another, in a parent position" ... Quoting: User # 78/68You'll REALLY over-reaching on *this* one!! WRONG Again! There is NO PEER PRESSURE. We recover through a process of suggestions and most importantly EMPATHY, a concept I think most of Nancy and her crew would find foreign. If pressure is put on an addict to recover they rebel. It's as simple as that. 12 Step programs don't work like group therapy, even though they resemble that in some ways. Why don't you go to a meeting and find out? We have open meetings in every major city and get students who are required to attend a meeting as part of their degree or certification. I have a degree in Psychology. Even if that were true it doesn't mean that you have a clue as to how 12 Step programs really work, and neither does Nancy, obviously. Also, I think my 22 years of personal involvement in NA on top of several years doing Public Information for the West TN Area put any schooling you can claim to shame. You don't learn empathy in a school or from a book. And who claims to be not only trained in psychology but a LAWYER as well! melfy is just another gullible liar. Funny how that "I have 2 degrees" claim gets made whenever one of her supporters can't back up what they claim. User claims the same exact thing. Of course, we will never know where those degrees come from or when. Tisk tisk Postman, you claim not to lie. I've only ever claimed one degree ... a BSc in biology from the University of Western Ontario. I've corrected the debunkers on this numerous times now, yet you guys continue to LIE about it. Why is that? Yes, PostHole, why is that? ZetaMax, how you doin? I don't think Dr Postman knows one whit about the psychology of the organization he claims he has been a member of for all of these years. Of course "peer" pressure plays a role! Otherwise, why have people stand up and relay their experiences both good and bad. Sure empathy plays a role, but many empathetic people in a room all concentrating on the same person can have a positive "peer" pressure influence. These debunkers are so damned determined to speak against anything Nancy Lieder says they actually smack themselves in the face doing so. Funny shit, it is! I'm doing well, my friend! Yes, it is SOOOO transparent how they desperately search her words high and low for anything they can twist and spin - no matter how fragile the link between her very clear meaning, and the debunkers pathetic distortion attempts. Shameful really. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| User # 78/68 User ID: 681262 Canada09/10/2009 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy "splitting hairs" was an UNDERSTATEMENT. 12 Step programs are predominantly GROUP ORIENTED. As such, they use PEER PRESSURE - which is very similar to parental pressure in it's power and effectiveness in influencing behavior (and in fact exceeds parental pressure in many instances). The peerage of the SUPPORT GROUP is the "Another, in a parent position" ... Quoting: ***ZetaMax***You'll REALLY over-reaching on *this* one!! WRONG Again! There is NO PEER PRESSURE. We recover through a process of suggestions and most importantly EMPATHY, a concept I think most of Nancy and her crew would find foreign. If pressure is put on an addict to recover they rebel. It's as simple as that. 12 Step programs don't work like group therapy, even though they resemble that in some ways. Why don't you go to a meeting and find out? We have open meetings in every major city and get students who are required to attend a meeting as part of their degree or certification. I have a degree in Psychology. Even if that were true it doesn't mean that you have a clue as to how 12 Step programs really work, and neither does Nancy, obviously. Also, I think my 22 years of personal involvement in NA on top of several years doing Public Information for the West TN Area put any schooling you can claim to shame. You don't learn empathy in a school or from a book. And who claims to be not only trained in psychology but a LAWYER as well! melfy is just another gullible liar. Funny how that "I have 2 degrees" claim gets made whenever one of her supporters can't back up what they claim. User claims the same exact thing. Of course, we will never know where those degrees come from or when. Tisk tisk Postman, you claim not to lie. I've only ever claimed one degree ... a BSc in biology from the University of Western Ontario. I've corrected the debunkers on this numerous times now, yet you guys continue to LIE about it. Why is that? Yes, PostHole, why is that? ZetaMax, how you doin? I don't think Dr Postman knows one whit about the psychology of the organization he claims he has been a member of for all of these years. Of course "peer" pressure plays a role! Otherwise, why have people stand up and relay their experiences both good and bad. Sure empathy plays a role, but many empathetic people in a room all concentrating on the same person can have a positive "peer" pressure influence. These debunkers are so damned determined to speak against anything Nancy Lieder says they actually smack themselves in the face doing so. Funny shit, it is! I'm doing well, my friend! Yes, it is SOOOO transparent how they desperately search her words high and low for anything they can twist and spin - no matter how fragile the link between her very clear meaning, and the debunkers pathetic distortion attempts. Shameful really. And "their" credibility goes down the tube in the mean time. Fitting actually! |
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| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suuurrrreee, you play contact sports. Who do you think you kid? Quoting: User # 78/68The only person you play with is yourself. Now, go make another stupid movie and earn that paycheque, willya? We're sure you know all about playing with ones self. Now, get back to earning that paycheck, willya? A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think of it as "tough love". Quoting: Circuit BreakerThen, when someone calls you Melfy...think of it as "tough love." The difference is, you "could" be a paid shill, but no one could be a "Melfy". The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 United States09/10/2009 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still evading answering the question, I see. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Typical. Such as explaining why there is a FROZEN tropical forest buried on the North Slope of Alaska? Ah...your baptist preacher again. Why are you quoting a preacher on geology? But we'd expect no different from you, Max. BTW, your evasion of answering the question about your claim is very telling. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 United States09/10/2009 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think of it as "tough love". Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Then, when someone calls you Melfy...think of it as "tough love." The difference is, you "could" be a paid shill, but no one could be a "Melfy". BTW, thanks guys for bumping this thread. It's popularity surpasses anything Nancy ever wrote! |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm doing well, my friend! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Why don't you just turn around and speak to him in person. You share the same cubicle. Yes, it is SOOOO transparent Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Just as transparent as your claim that you're a "fence sitter", eh? how they desperately search her words high and low for anything they can twist and spin Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Just as you desperately search her words high and low for anything you can twist and spin to support your master. And if you can't find anything there, you make stuff up. no matter how fragile the link between her very clear meaning, and the debunkers pathetic distortion attempts. Shameful really. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***No matter how fragile the link between any event on Earth and Nancy's claims, you'll attempt to use it for your purpose in a pathetic distortion of reality. Shameful really. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/10/2009 03:20 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still evading answering the question, I see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433Typical. Such as explaining why there is a FROZEN tropical forest buried on the North Slope of Alaska? Ah...your baptist preacher again. Why are you quoting a preacher on geology? But we'd expect no different from you, Max. BTW, your evasion of answering the question about your claim is very telling. Since when does anyone have to a degree in Geology in order to hold a frozen palm frond in his hand, while standing hundreds of miles above the Arctic Circle, and think "something here is out of place". Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/10/2009 03:21 PM The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These debunkers are so damned determined to speak against anything Nancy Lieder says they actually smack themselves in the face doing so. Funny shit, it is! Quoting: User # 78/68And you're so damned determined to speak FOR anything Nancy Lieder says, you actually smack yourself in the face doing so. Funny shit...it is, really! A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference is, you "could" be a paid shill, but no one could be a "Melfy". Quoting: ***ZetaMax***You "could" be a paid shill yourself. And you "could" be Nancy Lieder. Just more spinning from ZetaMax. Basically, he's saying it's okay for them to call people names. But "debunkers" aren't allowed to do the same. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference is, you "could" be a paid shill, but no one could be a "Melfy". Quoting: Circuit BreakerYou "could" be a paid shill yourself. And you "could" be Nancy Lieder. Just more spinning from ZetaMax. Basically, he's saying it's okay for them to call people names. But "debunkers" aren't allowed to do the same. >> You "could" be a paid shill yourself. Sure - except for one small item you are overlooking: THE NOTION IS:  The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since when does anyone have to a degree in Geology in order to hold a frozen palm frond in his hand, while standing hundreds of miles above the Arctic Circle, and think "something here is out of place". Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Ever since User claimed that Hap shouldn't be taken seriously because he didn't have a degree in Astronomy. But, explaining the palm frond is very easy. It's called "plate tectonics"...perhaps you've heard of it. Ever heard of Pangea? I'm sure you have. But, instead of listening to people who have spent a vast amount of time studying geology, you'd rather listen to a preacher with no expertise in that field....much like you'd rather people reject logic and accept "ZetaTalk" as the truth. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure - except for one small item you are overlooking: Quoting: Circuit BreakerTHE NOTION IS: No more absurd than I being a paid shill. If you can claim I'm paid, I can claim you're paid. Except that the Government has MONEY - and Nancy does NOT! The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 719433 United States09/10/2009 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since when does anyone have to a degree in Geology in order to hold a frozen palm frond in his hand, while standing hundreds of miles above the Arctic Circle, and think "something here is out of place". Quoting: ***ZetaMax***And the verifcation from other witnesses is where? Oh, that's right...there isn't any. You want us to think that with a discovery like that, there is only his word for it? Can you possibly BE any more gullible? |
| Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States09/10/2009 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except that the Government has MONEY - and Nancy does NOT! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Except that Nancy could be working for the government and, therefore, has plenty of funding. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/10/2009 03:46 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except that the Government has MONEY - and Nancy does NOT! Quoting: Circuit BreakerExcept that Nancy could be working for the government and, therefore, has plenty of funding. Only if you think her Social Security constitutes "compensation". The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 761889 United States09/10/2009 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since when does anyone have to a degree in Geology in order to hold a frozen palm frond in his hand, while standing hundreds of miles above the Arctic Circle, and think "something here is out of place". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433And the verifcation from other witnesses is where? Oh, that's right...there isn't any. You want us to think that with a discovery like that, there is only his word for it? Can you possibly BE any more gullible? I have more compelling information to share on this - SOON. (It will take time to post it). The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
