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Show where I lie? Can you? Now, do YOU ever stop lying, besmirching, misleading and attacking???

In case you're having difficulty answering that - which seems to be the case of any question asked of you, I'll answer it for you: no - you don't.


Much like he said once before on this or another topic...only to never post a damn thing to support his claims...much like you. People like YOU are a waste of time to converse with and you prove it with every single post you make right here. Imagine that!



You have something very wrong with YOU! You attack and insult anyone who questions Nancy Lieder. Even when they're polite and respectful. And then you lie by claiming "debunkers" are paid to be here. Why do you have to lie so damn readily? Get a grip. No one believes you because you never back up anything. You just post and run.

Geez, been away for almost 4 weeks and nothing changes. Same old lame arguments by Max, same insults by Luser and more drivel from Nancy.

Max, if you think that the valuable part of Nancy's "message" is the STO vs STS information, I feel sorry for you. This doctrine is no better than any other. Her whole scenario of how souls are one or the other or undecided is no different than the Christian doctrine of sons of god, sinners and purgatory. I see you have a long way to go on the road to spiritual development if you are impressed by this new age pseudo spirituality that Nancy would have you believe. You say that the pole shift and planet x may just be ploys to get people interested in the STO/STS crap. That is silly. Everything she says turns out to be wrong, so anyone with a little bit of critical thinking skills would take anything else she has to say with a half a grain of salt. I just came back from a retreat in South America with other healers, and reading your comments about this make me feel sad for people that buy into this bullshit. The truth is so much more empowering than what Nancy is selling. She is not your friend. She is placing obstacles in the paths of her fellow man, and by supporting her and berating others that don't believe her you are participating in perpetuating that same primitive energy.

Here Here! They won't listen to you though. They are immune to reason. Completely brain-washed.

I can...Nancy is full of shit. Ku band uplink antennas have a beamwidth of only 1/10th of one degree. If the earth wobbled by that much, satellite TV would be impossible.

I see the Zeta talk threads have gotten entertaining again with Candace stirring up a "KOOK FIGHT".

Candace has been on a thread hijacking spree lately, she took over the Holy shit look at the magnetosphere thread, and has been making weekly appearances in Nancy's threads lately as well.

it's too bad Nancy isn't responding to her I would enjoy seeing how they react to each others conflicting theories.

Last Edited by Mysterysoul on 09/13/2009 10:09 AM

>> You say that the pole shift and planet x may just be ploys to get people interested in the STO/STS crap.

I am merely speculating - thinking out loud so to speak. Just in case, in the end, no pole shift ever occurs. I know there is something to all the pole shift talk though, from MULTIPLE sources.

LOL - primitive energy indeed! So you're like the monkey who sees no evil, etc.

Yes, she's attracted a few nutters lately. Candace claims that we should be at the Fall equinox already, but aren't. Well, duh! That's because equinox and solstice occur on either the 21st or 22nd of the month. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. She also claims to have documentation showing that Earth is wobbling. I asked her to present it. Somehow I doubt she will.

The other two that are claiming Earth is wobbling are Andrew and Nancy's latest parrot, Gerard. Both of them make grand claims, but have no evidence to support them. Nor can they explain why satellite TV service, GPS navigation continues to function or how GOTO telescopes can accurately track celestial objects if the Earth were wobbling.

I imagine over the course of the next two years, leading in to 2012, their claims are going to get even more ridiculous...while Loser's attacks become more frantic.

though it was not adressed to me personally, i will add tp that.

they are so desperately trying to disprove that if Nancy/Zetas made a simple statement that "Sun rises in the East" they would claim it is WRONG!

truly amazing! one can observe this type of behaviour in those who are in hard denial. the message is so unacceptable for them that they go to just denying EVERYTHING that comes from a source.

Fully AGREED!!

yeah, move entire continencts over Earth's surface to **fit** traces of former poles and climate belts.

"Anything, but..."

there is a better and more reasonamble explanation - regular pole shifts (actual crustal shifts).

Debunker tactics: "Let's twist again!..."

And you're so desperately trying to convince others that some "rogue planet" is coming to cause a "pole shift" and then get upset when people simply ask for evidence of this. Your statement is just plain stupid because the sun DOES rise in the east. It is easily provable with simple observations. Much like the claims made by you and Nancy are easily proven false by these same simple observations.


Yes, you are truly amazing. Your behavior is that of one who is definitely in hard denial. "Planet X" was supposed to show up in 2003. It didn't. And yet, you continue to believe that it's coming. "Planet X" has supposedly been hanging out by the sun for over six years. There's absolutely no proof of that. And yet, you continue to claim that it is...while also running away from any chance to prove it. You claim the Earth is wobbling. Video evidence shows it is not. And yet, you continue to claim it is...while not having any evidence to support that. The fact that you are wrong is so unacceptable for you that you just keep on denying everything that is presented showing how and why you are wrong.

Bunker tactics: "Let's just keep saying 'Planet X' is coming soon but never present any concrete and verifiable evidence of it!...."

Only more reasonable to those who have no real knowledge or expertise on the subject and believe in "rogue planets" for which no evidence exists.

Of course you agree. You're paid to.



Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/13/2009 11:19 AM

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Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/13/2009 11:23 AM

And the whining goes on. I guess we can change the name from debunking crowd into whining crowd.

Indeed - call them a "Wh"ambulance!!



Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/13/2009 11:35 AM

And the whining goes on. I guess we can change the name from bunking crowd in to whining crowd.

This is a "debunker" thread. If you don't like it, go start your own thread. No one makes you come here...or do they?

"You might as well just say, there are nice people and horrible people"

but ZT suggests an explanation for that, and very reasonable explanation!

i came to see things in the same way, long before i knew about ZT, in fact in childhood. though i couldnt put it into words, describe it, much less explain it. now i can! and i KNOW it, not "believe", but KNOW and sure as hell about that!

AGREED!

Only to people such as yourself you believe they are part of some "higher calling."

Then why, pray tell did you joined the "ZetaTalk" thread. I can ask you the same question.

And sorry to say but in my humble opinion most debunkers act like whining children.

[ ... sorry accidental "triple" post!]

Last Edited by andrew on 09/13/2009 11:58 AM

did it ever came to you that Bible (and Quran and most Particularly Zoroastrism) may be just simply RIGHT about spirituality?

that if many sources describe basically the same thing, that the may be describing the objective reality, a FACT?!

Last Edited by andrew on 09/13/2009 11:49 AM

Because I don't dislike ZetaTalk threads. In fact, it is quite the opposite. It is Nancy and her followers that dislike "debunkers" and their threads. They're the ones that were calling for censorship. And it was Nancy who started banning people for asking her questions for which she had no answer. It was also Nancy who took it upon herself to delete a "debunker" thread and then ban the person who started it. Today, I saw some claims that are obviously false and easily provable as such so I made some comments on it....and you all started having a fit.


And, sorry to say, but to I and many other so called "debunkers", most bunkers act like whining children. Most throw tantrums when asked for evidence to support their claims.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/13/2009 11:52 AM

Hi CB! You said
It is Nancy and her followers that dislike "debunkers" and their threads. They're the ones that were calling for censorship.

Have I ever called for such a thing? I think it may be the opposite, and as I am and have been an avid supporter for some time I think I would be catagorized to yourself as a "follower"... but I think you are incorrect in your statement as such...

Peace to you as always, always a pleasure!

Peace

So, Max, any estimate on when you'll be providing that evidence to support your claims about that palm frond?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 09/13/2009 12:09 PM