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| Returner User ID: 997  United States09/24/2009 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I admit I am mystified that any intelligent person with any education whatsoever could be 'on the fence' about Nancy's ludicrous claims. She's always wrong about astronomy. She's always wrong about gelology. She's always wrong about -- well, everything. I'm an avid amateur astronomer. I've seen zero (ha ha) evidence of anything even remotely resembling her ridiculous 'Planet X.' It isn't there. It never was. It isn't coming. So how could you remain neutral about a mass of contradictory and nonsensical babble? Suppose I tell you that the Sun is actually a flaming globe of ear wax suspended 666 miles from the Earth on the end of a quantum superstring held by the mischevious demon Dilligaf. Are you on the fence about that assertion as well? |
***ZetaMax***  User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your reply, ZetaMax. Quoting: Returner 997I admit I am mystified that any intelligent person with any education whatsoever could be 'on the fence' about Nancy's ludicrous claims. She's always wrong about astronomy. She's always wrong about gelology. She's always wrong about -- well, everything. I'm an avid amateur astronomer. I've seen zero (ha ha) evidence of anything even remotely resembling her ridiculous 'Planet X.' It isn't there. It never was. It isn't coming. So how could you remain neutral about a mass of contradictory and nonsensical babble? Suppose I tell you that the Sun is actually a flaming globe of ear wax suspended 666 miles from the Earth on the end of a quantum superstring held by the mischevious demon Dilligaf. Are you on the fence about that assertion as well? I thought it was Dillighaph. Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/24/2009 03:16 PM The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766  United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But WISDOM **is** the most important thing about Zetatalk! We are here on this earth to grow spiritually, and the WISDOM we acquire is the one treasure we can truly "lay up" in heaven. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***And it does not take great wisdom to recognize a monsterpile of Bullshit as Bullshit..... but it takes some guts do admit to being wrong..... which most people dont have. It's TOO EARLY for any of that. No it's NOT! ZetaTalk PROVED ITSELF to be BULLSHIT in 2003! |
| Returner User ID: 997 United States09/24/2009 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But WISDOM **is** the most important thing about Zetatalk! We are here on this earth to grow spiritually, and the WISDOM we acquire is the one treasure we can truly "lay up" in heaven. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778766And it does not take great wisdom to recognize a monsterpile of Bullshit as Bullshit..... but it takes some guts do admit to being wrong..... which most people dont have. It's TOO EARLY for any of that. No it's NOT! ZetaTalk PROVED ITSELF to be BULLSHIT in 2003!  The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, no, no! Quoting: Returner 997Dilligaf holds the String on the Flaming Sun. Dillighaph is the Lord of Moderately High Interest Rates. But back to my question -- do you reject my assertion, and if so, on what grounds? Matthew is the deceased son of Suzy Ward, who died in a tragic Jeep accident in 1980. Since the late 80's he has been communicating with his Mother via channeling and automatic writing. [link to www.matthewbooks.com] The Zetas via Nancy Lieder have stated the following:We have stated that the Council of Worlds has allowed an exception on the Rule of Non-Interference, allowing ourselves and our brethren in the Service-to-Other to interfere with the Bush White House plans to create terrorism within the US as an excuse to invoke martial law and continue the Bush occupation of Iraq. This has proved true since 911, and has even been extended to the UK recently. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaTalk: Not Succeed Note: written during the Mar 22, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session: There will be no terrorist attacks, nor will the war progress . . . They have been Warned, with great clarity, during these chats which are monitored well and reported back to the power mongers, that they will not succeed as planned in their takeover of the Oil Rich region. The orders from the elite at the helm of this power and oil grab care not for mangled bodies of civilians or their own troops, and issued the orders to proceed. As with the mechanical failures preventing the shuttles from lofting for several months before the Columbia lofted, mechanical problems and weather are being used to signal the seriousness of the Council's intent. This is, as before, being utterly ignored. To those who wonder if mechanical problems or sand storms can be arranged by those carrying out the Councils ruling, it is a simple matter akin to a flick of the finger for a human. Weather manipulations are easy, as air masses can be heated or cooled, affecting the Jet stream, and this has been done in the past if UFO annals are researched with an educated eye. Mechanical problems in equipment relying on satellites, such as cruise missiles are, or relying on magnetic orientation or signals of some sort, are too easy to manipulate, child's play. But these difficulties are being interpreted by the arrogant as truly caused by equipment failure and natural weather. These same arrogant power and oil mongers are also telling themselves that the Columbia disaster was not caused by an administration above themselves, but by some problems with the equipment similar to the O-Ring disaster years previous. In short, they are not heeding the warnings of the Council, so stronger measures will shortly be taken. These measures will be, like the Columbia disaster, of a magnitude to stop the onslaught of the invasion as though the breath had been taken out of the body. All will hold their breath, confused, and this delay will be such that the earth changes already escalating will catch up with the power mongers. [link to www.zetatalk.com] And now the Message from Matthew June 5, 2004: And that brings me back to the issue of global terrorism that often I have addressed in prior messages. Are the warnings valid of new and perhaps even more broadly-based terror attempts prior to the US election? Yes, they are indeed valid, and how could they not be when the very same few people who order the warnings to be reported are the ones who plan and direct the terrorist activities? They directed the September 11, 2001, coordination of planes hitting the twin towers and the destruction of part of the Pentagon and the crash of the plane in a field. The truth of this will be exposed sufficiently to implicate the instigators at a level where thinking minds will know that the highest officials were complicit in planning and executing those events. Before I speak more of that day, I shall repeat what always I have said in conjunction with the validity of terrorist alerts. The aid of civilizations far advanced of you spiritually, intellectually and technologically has been and will continue to be at the ready to prevent the direst of the predictions, from major explosions to nuclear war. Although monitoring has been diligent, false information by one of the dark forces misguided the Earth teams so that prevention of the train bombings in Spain was thwarted, and since that time, scrutiny has been tightened both on the surface and beyond the planet. Additional ETs with extraordinary powers of both perception and self-protection have taken form on the planet, surveillance teams in spacecraft have increased their vigilant missions, and the reporting systems between them and their colleagues on Earth have been expanded. And not least, people formerly convinced that they were being truthfully informed now are realizing that they were supporting the dark side, and they have joined the ranks of the active lightworkers. Now then, I shall mention some of the facts of 9/11 that we in these stations of light know as truth and that can be verified by those among you who are considered experts in their fields. The planes were remotely controlled by measures designed to override any manual maneuvers by pilots. The towers were designed to withstand the force of the largest planes hitting them directly. The towers collapsed due to controlled demolition measures, by explosives strategically located and detonated in timely rhythm; witnesses reported hearing explosions prior to the buildings falling. Both the Pentagon and the plane that crashed in the field were hit by scalar beam weaponry. Regarding the Pentagon, the beams were aimed at the section where a communications group had been recently relocated. Results of a major airliner hitting that building at top speed would have penetrated more deeply and devastated more broadly than photos of the destruction showed; further, no one saw any plane approaching that building and there was no way a plane could have struck as the damage showed without being seen at near ground level. There is much more to consider concerning all that happened that day: Why were many employees in the towers warned prior to September 11th not to report for work that day? Why were standard procedures for intercept planes in no-fly zones not followed, and especially so around the Pentagon after the towers were struck? Why was the debris of the towers so quickly collected and disposed of? Where were the remains of the plane claimed to have hit the Pentagon and why were no bodies recovered from the tail section? Why were the black boxes, designed to withstand far more heat and impact than they sustained, declared destroyed? Why, within a day or two, were 19 terrorists identified by name and photos, and later, when it was discovered that several were alive, was there no widespread challenge to the original report? Why, after being informed of the first tower being hit, did the US president continue to spend time with young school children instead of immediately departing the room to act as a responsible Commander in Chief would have? Many other aspects of that day also point to the culpable parties, who needed something of that shocking and tragic nature to start the war on terrorism by causing the justification for it. This is what you are seeing today, the extension of the dark plans to weaken not only the invaded countries, but ultimately all countries on the road to global control. This will not happen! Not only I, but other high beings of light have been sending forth this assurance through respected messengers on the planet. We have repeatedly stated the need for you to send love energy to the dark ones as that is the most powerful healing force in the universe. Not hatred of them, but focusing on the opposite of their actions on peace, justness, kindness, compassion, forgiveness, cooperation, is what will end the darkness on Earth. We have asked that you participate in this transition because that is your soul level choice, but do not to set a timetable for the completion of Earth's journey out of darkness. Know that in every moment you have the assistance of your ET family, in every moment hearts and minds are opening and the love-light is expanding, in every moment you are traveling into the higher vibrations of the promised Golden Age, the era of Earth's return to her Eden self. [link to www.matthewbooks.com] The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766 United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy, and you, are kOOks who believe in impossible bullshit. Quoting: andrewwho are YOU to know what is possible or impossible? your parents from NASA or Government told you so? childish arrogance...  Because we have learned that certain things ARE impossible (such as planets not obeying the law of gravity). If you can produce a RATIONAL argument as to why ONE planet in the universe (Nancy's Planet X) can be IMMUNE to gravity I'd LOVE to hear it! But until you can: Planet X as described by Nancy IS impossible. Prove me wrong if you can! Rational intelligence tells me what is and isn't impossible, and so far in the case of ZetaTalk it has been 100% correct! I predicted that Planet X would NOT show up in 2003, and I was RIGHT, unlike Nancy. I have been right ever since! |
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| Returner User ID: 997 United States09/24/2009 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for demonstrating your considerable prowess at cutting and pasting, ZetaMax. Hand-eye coordination is indeed a thing of which to be proud. However, if that was intended as a reply to my question, it is somewhat lacking in basic content. Let's try again, please. Do you reject my assertion concerning the sun being held 666 miles from the Earth by the demon Dilligaf? Hint: A response of yes or no would be quite sufficient. You need not paste any more long diatribes about channeling teens and alien anti-terror efforts. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766 United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012? Quoting: ***ZetaMax***now, why is that? the very claim is ridiculous. Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here. As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics. ZetaTalk: Speed Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Expanded with Light Speed Limitation section during IRC Session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same. [link to www.zetatalk.com] WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS. Why are you immune to reason? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766 United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And please stay away from The Lone Ranger's malicious and libelous "films" he has made to lampoon and ridicule me and my "position" regarding Nancy and Zetatalk. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Only go there if you like to laugh - as Nancy has banned humor from the Cult of Lies. |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778766now, why is that? the very claim is ridiculous. Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here. As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics. ZetaTalk: Speed Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Expanded with Light Speed Limitation section during IRC Session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same. [link to www.zetatalk.com] WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS. Why are you immune to reason? >> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for demonstrating your considerable prowess at cutting and pasting, ZetaMax. Hand-eye coordination is indeed a thing of which to be proud. Quoting: Returner 997However, if that was intended as a reply to my question, it is somewhat lacking in basic content. Let's try again, please. Do you reject my assertion concerning the sun being held 666 miles from the Earth by the demon Dilligaf? Hint: A response of yes or no would be quite sufficient. You need not paste any more long diatribes about channeling teens and alien anti-terror efforts. yes The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766 United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Why are you immune to reason? >> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all. So why do you 'advocate' ZetaTalk by continually posting it?? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 778766 United Kingdom09/24/2009 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? Quoting: ***ZetaMax***I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all. If you are 'just a casual observer' why did you chose ZetaMax as your avatar name? Why are you keen on posting 'Zetas Right Again' notices (even thought they never are)? |
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| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778766Why are you immune to reason? >> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all. So why do you 'advocate' ZetaTalk by continually posting it?? I'm simply encouraging people to keep an "open mind". The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, ZetaMax! Quoting: Returner 997So you reject, out of hand, my Revealed Truth concerning the ear-wax Sun, the 666 miles, the quantum string, and the demon Dilligaf. May I ask why you reject this? I question the accuracy of 666 miles - you don't have an "accuracy track record". [link to www.zetatalk.com] Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/24/2009 03:50 PM The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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| Returner User ID: 997 United States09/24/2009 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm saddened that you aren't keeping an 'open mind' about my ear-wax sun. Why are you so prejudiced against it? I can prove it all. But until you open your eyes and shed your false Demonic ideas about reality, you will be forever blind. Etc., etc. Seriously, how do you decide which concepts you will keep an open mind about, and which you reject on sight? |
| ***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States09/24/2009 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778766I thought it was cool name. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
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