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For those who dont know how Nancy looks:
[link to www.skepticalmind.com]

Again the misunderstanding that someone who is Service to Others always has to be nice and friendly. Especialy by people who threat her and the ones take the message of the Zetas serious like dirt.

And then you expect that she is nice to you?

From ZetaTalk: Key Characterictics

ZetaTalk: Key Characteristics
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

There is a common misunderstanding, that being that Service-to-Others is all bleeding heart concern and the Service-to-Self is snarling greed. Nothing could be further from the truth. These animals come in various sizes and shapes. One must look for the key characteristics, in fact, to even identify them. An example, look to ourselves. We are Service-to-Others Zetas. Do we not defend ourselves? Do we not have particular goals we press? Do we lie down and let others walk all over us? Yet we are concerned for the general welfare and work hard to improve this for ourselves as well as others.

Likewise, the Service-to-Self are often misunderstood. As we have mentioned elsewhere, they can be charming and diplomatic. The key is the goal, not the goal stated, which may be packaged to appeal to those to be duped, but the actual goal. A reduction in pollution laws, packaged as enabling employers to stay in business, is in fact a power play by those who resent any restrictions on their power. The unemployment rate has nothing to do with this, but is waved about as a reason. Wives are familiar with the common husband excuse for late hours and avoidance of home chores. The job requires this, and the wife should bear in mind who is slaving away to bring home the bacon.

In sum, the Service-to-Others individual may be gruff, distracted, disheveled, and inaccessible. But what are they working toward? How do they react when a truth test comes, where they must be willing to sacrifice themselves for others? Do they come through? And the Service-to-Self individual may be suave, seemingly generous, even defending others. But when their welfare is lined up against another, when they must truly share and words are asked to be replaced by actions, what then?
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Last Edited by Gerard on 09/27/2009 09:54 AM

She is a cockroach and so are the bunkers ... so we treat them like they deserve it.

yes, i see.

what she is and what she have been doing - that is HER problem, not YOURS.

who is the judge whether smth is BUNK?

Wow ... piece of shit Nancy Lieder lost it again:



Did you discover it before or after your Shitchat last evening ?



Pretty much everyone since Nostradamus predicted this old lady fart ... and so far all failed.


Stop bumpin your own threads ! You know you lost ... boycott, complete success.

sure it is, but why is it of such importance to you?!

Why dont you stop posting here and go back to the retard thread ? Why do you care what we debunkers are talking about ?

...

boycott ("de-bunkers" ejecting themselves from ZetaTalk chats on their own) brought new supporters, "watchers" to speak out, probabaly for the first time, because the thread was not filled with crap and distractions.

Start of Retard talk:

SOZT
Even on cloudy days, sunburn occurs. Those that can stock up on vitamins should do so, as this surely does not hurt, but being outdoors should solve the problem, even with cloud cover. Fish have Vitamin D, and fish ponds or ocean fishing has always been a recommendation of ours. Earthworms, which have 82% protein, also have Omega 3 oil, similar to fish oil. Look for alternate sources!
EOZT


I discovered that earthworms DO contain Vitamin D!!!

End of retard talk

Where in your lines above do the Zetas claim earthworms have Vitamin D ??? Isee, nowhere ... Vitamin is not mentioned in connection to the earthworms in your post, only protein and Omega 3 oil. Tartlady only mentions Vitamin D only in connection with fish in her post above.

Getting slowly demented nancy, huh ?

this is avoiding the question, but anyway,


this is a public forum!

if you decide to not visit ZetaTalk threads - thats your business. i do not restrict myself.

so ... then explain to my why hear ZetardTalks only have 10% of page hits since the boycott ... explain why they end at 5 peges, while talks from a year ago and earlier have up to 25 and more pages ... and how do you know how many people "watch" her ZetardTalk, do you have access to the GLP server log ? Guess not ... you are such a disgusting creature, you make me wanna puke.

Hey lunatic, I have a question for you.

Do you actually believe that people can be reincarnated as octopus on another planet?

Don't try to twist the question, the answer is either a YES or a NO.


Do you actually believe that people can be reincarnated as octopus on another planet?

Yes or No.

You're welcome ... just keep bumping our thread while the ZetardTalk sinks to the bottom of the page because she has lost most of her followerd.

Why ZetaTalk is so important ? Because its deceiving people ... I hate Nancy Lieder as much as I hate Scientologists, the Pope and his Christians, Creationists ... and every other being that does not live a life of pure science ... I love people like Richard Sawkins, Richard Feynman (rip), and so forth, people who base all they do on science ... this is a war of good versus evil, logic vs. bogus cult.

dont be shy, feel free to "express" yourself

If what you say doesn't fit with science, how do you "know" it's true? I assume that you think you have some sort of scientific evidence to support what you are saying. Please explain.

What is your independant thinking with which you have determined that Earth is halted in orbit?

I am asking you the same Andrew ... do you believe that quote: "Those humans who are not ready to leave 3rd Density when they die will not reincarnate on Earth."

Do you believe those people not ready will be reincarnated on another planet as Octopus ?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

YES or NO

hey smartass, do you believe that increasing tectonics and slowing of the Earths rotation is caused by heightened greenhouse gasses in the atmoshpere? and do you believe that few droplets of "sacred" water makes a difference in going to "hell" or "heaven"?

and btw, yes, i do believe that people can be reincarnated as octopus on another planet

You're not answering the full question:

quote: "Those humans who are not ready to leave 3rd Density when they die will not reincarnate on Earth."

Do you believe "humans who are not ready to leave 3rd Density" will become water creatures. The is a difference between just reincarnated or reincarnated because you did not follow Nancys bogud cult.

i see, but isnt it too arrogant to put yourself over the "gullible populace" and decide what influence they should be subject to? leave it to them themselves - let THEM decide. or do you deny their capability to do so?

What increased tectonics and slowing of the earth rotation are you talking about ?

If the earth would slow down its rotation days and nights would get longer of course ... they dont, at least not here where I live ... please explain.

Yes I do ... they obviously should go back to school and learn a bit more about physics.

Answer:

Humans who are not ready to leave 3rd Density will become -CRAB PEOPLE!

I corrected YOUR misunderstanding that this is what people thing "STO" means. Of course you ignore it and repeat the same misconception again. What a surprise. Zetacult members are unable to change their thinking when presented with new information.




What has led to that treatment has been the wilfull ignoring of new information, exactly like you just demonstrated, and the Zetacult members constant attacks upon anyone who attempts to offer anything which is different than what Nancy Lieder says, even though she has been proven wrong countless times, and the constant characterization of anyone speaking against Nancy as a paid government agent. LIVE WITH IT. You guys CREATED IT.



NANCY began attacking and libeling people on Sci.astro YEARS ago. Don't try to say she didn't.



What makes you think this is accurate or real? Oh... I know... you believe ANYTHING Nancy Lieder says.

YOU, NANCY and ALL OF ZETATALK seek to put yourselves in EXACTLY the position you are complaining about.

Idiot.

Answer Andrew ... ! ... why dont the days and nights dont get longer if the earth rotation gets slowed down ?

When will people grow up and see both sides of the debate here?

How about someone try to present both sides for a change.

Anyone who takes Nancy's message as completely legitimate is in denial. She was wrong in 2003. She is still wrong now.

1) Not a single clear image of Planet X was ever shot when it was "visible" in 2001-2003.

2) The Zetas have shown paltry accuracy when it comes to predicting man's affairs.
a) Didn't know who John Lennon was (don't believe Nancy's BS explanation).
b) Didn't think Obama would be president.
c) Didn't think H1N1 would be called a pandemic. the Zetas supposedly have IQs of 286 yet they couldn't predict the need for caution and concern over a new, novel and highly infectious strain of influenza? Doesn't sound too smart to me.
d)OH and they didn't think Bush would wage war in Iraq! Supposedly it was just a bunch of saber rattling to distract us from more pressing issues.

I know what is in the mind of man better than they do, and I am quite terrestrial, and quite non-telepathic!

3) And where are those devastating "crop shortages" that were enormously emphasized by the Zetas in the late 1990s? Surely we can say that there have been some famines as well as increase in prices due to increase in oil, climate devastation from global warming, massive price increases fuel and everything, but no massive food shortage as the Zetas predicted. This was the Zetas STRONGEST claim back in the pre-2003 days. Everyone likes to forget that. Where are the food clubs and massive government-controlled food rations that were predicted? They are NOWHERE. If you don't believe me, look at the Zeta's predictions. Look at troubled times. The emphasis is all on massive food shortages that NEVER materialized!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have predicted there will in essence be a complete crop
failure for the 3 years going into the Spring of 2003. This
means the years of 2000, 2001, and 2002 will find such
devastation to commercial crops that the stores set aside by
the government for such disasters will be depleted greatly.
"

If there were so many crop shortages in those nations, and it has been almost nine years since it started, why isn't the whole world in abject famine by now? Oh wait, I forgot about the white lie....the much trumped up need to "fool" the establishment. What was the reason for fooling people into believing they would lose all of their food? I can't think of how that would tie in in to Nancy and the Zetas needs to "fool" the elites. Why would we need to fool millions of people in developing nations? Why cause panic, looting and rioting by claiming that massive food shortages are soon to take place? Doesn't sound very 4D to me. Could it be that the this prediction was simply false and continues to be false? Why isn't Nancy emphasizing it now? Because it isn't really happening.

4) There is absolutely no solid evidence for the wobble.

5) The notion that Earth is trapped in her orbit around the Sun is ludicrous. Such a scenario would affect magnetic activity on earth in unmistakable, profound ways. Furthermore, ZetaTalk claims that the earth has a dead twin locked in a parallel orbit with earth.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

If earth is locked in its orbit, why don't we run into this planet now? Oh, don't tell me. It too is mysteriously locked by the strange forces of Planet X.??? Then how would the gravitational field of a planet with only 4x the mass of the Earth affect the movement of two planets who are further than the entire of the girth of the Sun From moving in two OPPOSITE directions with respect to each other and Planet X? (remember, they are on opposite sides of the earth and cannot move in retrograde to each other, or else we would see this planet). Clearly Zetatalk trips over it's own lies.

If believers cannot see that, then they are lost. But I know why they hold on to the message of ZetaTalk. It appears to have some truth to it. If you truly believe in "living in the gray" embracing a STO mentality, thinking for yourself as the Zetas purport, you will admit that ZetaTalk is only an approximation, a vision of certain spiritual ideas and realities that are only lightly nascent to mankind. Other spiritual philosophers have discussed in the past what it means to be STO. Jesus, Gandhi. Other sources confirm and attempt to corroborate extraterrestrial involvement in earth's affairs. ZetaTalk isn't the be all, end all source. And it is largely the work of one woman. It is only attractive to you because it tries to put it all under one umbrella. But clearly it is a little too full of itself. Get over it. Grow up, and think for yourself. Take the ideas and philosophies that work for you from it, and abandon the nonsense. If you want to be "Service to Other" get involved in something important in the world around you, that helps others. And if you are truly doing a sincere job, you won't have time to worry about ZetaTalk.

and what is science, in truth? you have to be "stunningly superficial" to blindly cling to it as means of knowing the truth and not see it for what it became nowadays.

the core of sciences error is the assumption that "We now know everything". BECAUSE of that modern science has become a virtual "sacred canonical knowledge", which is:

1.- a result of **agreement** by majority of figures recognized and authorized by scientific community = "consensus reality".

(* scientific community itself is a self-perpetuating MAFIA, riddled with self-interest, personal agendas and pursuit of commercial success. search of TRUTH has nothing to do with it anymore.)

2.- consists of many differing opinions, often opposite, and it is not established what IS true.

3.- is approved and decided by the highest officials, both scientific and governmental. THEY decide what should be told to populace.