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You mean you refuse to know whether that is true? Saying that you "don't care" is really lame.

again, no contradiction, you dummie!

you have to be stunningly superficial to equate what was going on in Russia and what is going on in China (Cuba, NKorea etc) to communism, to **true** communism, as a set of values and ideals: equality, justice, democracy, liberty (yes! democracy!..)

no country ever built true communism. though few were and ARE close to the ideal. (Sweden, Norway, etc and now US too). there were many communities trying to practice the ideal, but it requires a strictly STO composition of these to function properly.

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Equalitarian experiments on 3rd Density worlds almost invariably run amuck, as the actions of the group never follow the ideal. All to work equally hard, according to their talents falls under the intractable laziness that is natural to all without a strong sense of responsibility toward others. This is the majority, on 3rd Density worlds. Thus, when on the honor system, less and less gets done by fewer and fewer individuals. Add to this the ideal that the talented or accomplished are not to boast or receive reward for their endeavors beyond what the least of the group receives. Motivation to contribute is countered when the lazy in the group are all about, doing as little as possible. Rules against benefiting at the expense of others falls to bribery, and a black market system evolves and thence essentially rules the economic system, as it did in Russia.

Communism failed as mankind was not ready for the system, not because the ideal is not worthy. Service- to-Other groups operate with what might be construed to be Communistic ideals - all sharing the assets of the group and cared for by the group, regardless of their contribution. The difference is the spiritual maturity of the group, as where all care for the group's outcome as much as they care for themselves, the system works.

Communism as a concept has been introduced into human society repeatedly, and in fact can be found as a family concept in most households. It goes by different names but the theme is the same - one for all and all for one, united we stand where divided we fall, the family that prays together stays together, and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Nothing wrong with the ideal, just make sure everyone in the group is as dedicated as you.

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We have stated that the fault with communism was not the concept but the spiritual orientation of those practicing it. Greed, selfish interest, and lack of care for others ruined it for all. Those who speak of communism as an evil are primarily interested in capitalism as a replacement, so that greed, self interest, and lack of care for others can be more extreme.

So you dismiss ALL the "Zeta" astronomical claims as "insignificant", so you can ignore the fact that they are outright lies?? Astounding. What about the astronomical claims spedifically concerning the existence of PX? They are lies to, you know. How do you decide exactly which astronomical claims are "insignificant"? Is it just the ones that are obviously false and you don't know how else to deal with them?

so, its time for me!

see you tomorrow!

Zetard contradicts himself ... again:

Just show you how women can make poor romantic choices, I suppose.


So the astronomical claims are "insignificant", but there is still a massive conspiracy needed to counter them, even though they are false? You are making even less sense than usual, Andrew.

OMG ... he probably indoctrinates his girlfriend and their future children too with that Zeta crap .... THATs why Nancy LIEDer is a dangerous person !

You don't have to use that exact phrase. Menow must think that the moon is behaving normally, the sun rising/setting normally, the amount/magnitude of earthquakes is normal, no erratic tides/rogue waves which must be normal. Correct? Or do you have a different interpretation of Menow's words? Or any debunkers words since you're pretty much the same weak minded person.

You keep claiming there are no contradictions in Zetatalk. I could name a hundred, but I only offered one. Why do you continue to skip over it? Repeat:

What malarky. If there are no contradictions, why did you skip over this?



Here, Andrew. I posted this bit on Nancy's thread last week. How about YOU take a stab at explaining the contradiction.

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Was just looking for the date at which "Zetas" claim Earth is halted, but found this instead:

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"Because NASA also has a dilemma in the Earth’s dark twin rounding the bend and coming up behind it in the orbit path they share. This will become visible soon, if not already, and will come close to the Earth before other dramas intervene."


Hmm... Nancy has been claiming that the "Dark Twin" cannot be seen. Hmm... Who is lying, Nancy or "Zetas"? Hmm...

Any of you believers dare to ask about this gaffe?

The moon and the sun are behaving totally normal ... please prove it otherwise if you can.

Thanks for at lease being willing to have some sort of exchage, Andrew. Most of the other "Zeta" follwers won't even do that.

Then don't SAY that I did, hmm?



It is. Why would you think otherwise? Please be specific.



Yes. It has been in the normal range. If you want to claim that the many stats have been "doctored", go right ahead, but I won't entertain that silly argument. It is the catchall excuse for ANY stats which show Zetatalk to be wrong. It is a MEANINGLESS argument.



Tides; weather; waves, etc, are erratic by sheer definition. That's why Nancy uses them to try to support her bogus claims. Get a clue.



Go ahead and show how you think you "know" that the Sun/Moon are not rising/setting normally. This should be good!

Waiting...

Waiting...

Waiting... for AC 767101 to show evdence that the Sun/Moon are not where they belong in the sky at all times.

I see that AC 767101 is the same idiot who can't read a planisphere. Did you notice that Nancy abandoned you on that issue last week? Care to take it up agian over here? I posted a screenshot of Stellarium showing the actual positions of Canis Major and Orion on 12-15-09. You were wrong, but aren't man enough to admit it or even acknowledge my post with the screenshot, hmm?

Idiot!

He is probably digging the backyard for some tasty vitamin D containing earthworms ... Nancy suggested this in the last ZetaTalk.

But Nancy says it arrived in our solar system in 2003, and that it is actually in the inner solar system behind the sun. The only way we could not see it is if the earth is stalled in orbit and never gets around to that side of the sun, which is what Nancy claims, but we all know that this is impossible, since the days continue to get longer and shorter, as they should, the seasons arrive on time as they should, eclipses and occultations and conjunctions occur as predicted by astronomers and ephemeris that have been printed for decades. The earth goes around the sun once every year, so unless the elusive planet x is also orbiting the sun in such a way as to never be visible from earth, then it is pretty conclusive that planet x is not nor has been in the inner solar system. No amount of aliens tilting the earth will make the other side of the sun visible.

Nancy has said that it is shrouded in dust so we can't see it, but then she also says it can sometimes be seen in photographs taken on cheap web cams. The contradictions are everywhere, and it doesn't take much education and common sense to know that if this planet was stationary that close to the sun, it would be sucked into the sun. Basic physics. For that matter, if the earth ever stopped orbiting, there would be no hiding it. We would all die pretty quickly.

So it has been proven that PX is not in our solar system, and I pity that you have nothing better to do than sit and wait for it to show up. Nancy says it is already here, so what are you waiting for?

I am not talking about repeated posts. With Nancy all you have to do is ask a question or make an observation that is hard for her to explain away in a credible fashion. All it takes is one post, which has happened to me on several occasions. Don't you wonder why she has to ban and delete people who aren't spamming or disrupting? My first post on one of her threads had an honest question about an inconsistency on her website. All I was asking for was clarification, but Nancy came back and called me a paid debunker and said that she didn't owe me an answer. Nice way to treat new and potentially faithful followers. Truth is, Nancy only wants the lowest common denominator on her threads, because it's easy to confuse and convince them. Anyone that paid attention in high school is a threat to Nancy, because her BS can't stand in the face of the slightest scrutiny.

And I understand that Octopus are far more intellectually capable in being able to enjoy the powers of critical thinking. The shc20 not so much!!

The definition of "disrupter" has always been questions from someone who doesn't believe Nancy' claims.

Melfy you can no longer hide from the truth. You are what you are Socky.

Welp. AC 767101 claims that the Sun/Moon/Canin Major/Orion/younameit are not where they belong in the sky, but just can't present any real evidence to support that wild claim. We are just supposed to take his say-so.

Typical. Sooooo very typical.

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I notice that Nancy claims that the red dust in Australia comes from deposits of dust from past PX transits. What a joke! Why is it that PX dumped this red dust in some places and not in others? Why isn't the rest of the world red like the Australian desert? Did PX selectively dust certain parts of the globe and leave others alone? Doesn't she know that even the mountains are red there and in places like Utah and Colorado? It would take a lot of dust to make a whole mountain.

Zetas wrong again !

After a few years one gets use to the pathetic crap that Ms LIEDer comes up with. The above claim of hers is yet another example of how to string along the gullible that follow Nancy's every word.

Yes these persons take her seriously while the majority of us just simply laugh at her "made as you go" stupidity.

Ms LIEDer's logic opens her up for ridicule everytime. This is simply because she makes these kind of statements hoping that her shc20(super-human cult of 20) will just lap up whatever she serves on the platter of crap. When real logic is applied to her claims it makes Nancy look basically retarded in many ways.



Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 09/27/2009 06:05 PM

Please don't type those abhorrant names in bold type.

Thank you.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/27/2009 06:41 PM

What is wrong, MAXI SOCKY MELFY? Can't take the heat? Then run back to nanny LIEder's kitchen. You are intimately familiar with her kitchen, aren't you MAXISOCKYMELFY?

What is wrong, MAXI SOCKY MELFY? Can't take the heat? Then run back to nanny LIEder's kitchen. You are intimately familiar with her kitchen, aren't you MAXISOCKYMELFY?

What is wrong, MAXI SOCKY MELFY? Can't take the heat? Then run back to nanny LIEder's kitchen. You are intimately familiar with her kitchen, aren't you MAXISOCKYMELFY?