As an aside:

Gerard Zwaan

Zwaan was a member of the Troubled Times team and Yahoo forums from their beginnings. He is often seen on the Yahoo group tt-watch reminding everyone when the next Zetatalk IRC chat will occurr. As moderator of #zetatalk and #troubled_times on IRC he is known by the handle "obany".

Gerard Zwaan is also an interesting aspect of the ZetaTalk phenomena, in that he was perhaps the first true believer in the words of Nancy Lieder. In fact, several personal accounts have stated Zwaan is responsible for the majority of what ZetaTalk contained upon its webpages when it debuted in 1995. From what has been told of the time from well connected sources, Zwaan peppered Lieder with a multitude of paranormal "what if" questions in private communication which resulted in the "core" of 1995 Zetatalk.com. It has also been stated from close sources that Zwaan's personal identity is very much fixated upon the "reality" that Lieder has spun under the name of her Zetas. His emotional commitment to the "cause" is near fully invested, making it perhaps impossible to do anything but ride the proverbial wave until its inevitable crash.


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