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It says nothing about their credibility. As humans evolved and learned, theories changed. When science was wrong about something, scientists admitted it. This is something Nancy and her followers do not do...and the "Zetas" admit to lying and murder...which says a lot about their credibility.


That "reality" as you call it, is based on years of study and observation. It changes as new data comes in. ZetaTalk stays the same...except for the dates of destruction. Those keep changing as each prediction fails.


But, gee, aren't you doing the same thing when you make claims about the "pole shift", ice ages and mammoths? Wasn't it you who said you didn't think...you knew? Ooops!


What are you talking about? Science admits it's wrong all the time as data comes in and is analyzed. Welcome to fail.

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You STILL speak about things you have no clue of.

It's obvious that Andrew flunked a science course (big surprise there) and is still stinging from the ordeal.

Science is BAD! Only aging dowager women and their always-wrong channeled aliens can save us now.

Way to go, dude.

I believe you cannot solve


Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
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And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
158 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
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Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
Hint No. 3: Its no chiffre. It IS decribed in encryption history - but not available on the net (everybody doing it was diligent)
Hint No. 4: The riddle is easy. (everybody doing it can think)
Hint No. 5: The riddle is stegano. (everybody doing it may cry)
Hint No. 6 : You are thinking too difficult (everybody doing it will cry)
I decided to extend the schedule for next hints. (+ 50 days) Next after 200 days.

it is my own assertion, not ZetaTalk.

i think that it is not yet here, but will be, EXACTLY like described by ZetaTalk - timeline within ZetaTalk is deliberately shifted into the future to warn ahead of the time, as if things that are to come are already happening. it could be considered a type of White Lie, this whole timeline issue. i repeated it number of times here and elsewhere on GLP. and you know what is my take on this quite well, so dont pretend and stop manipulating!

what contradisction? if PX is inbound to Sol system it would first be beyond Pluto, then sling past planets in reverse order: Uranus, Neptune, Saturn and so on. or do you suppose it just appear from nowhere near the Sun?

Hey Andrew, don't get me wrong. I dropped out of university and since I am a person that never stops learning, I keep pushing myself to learn. But to say that education and a degree is useless is stupid. There are some fields of study that you can't self learn because you need a learning environment that provides the resources you need to learn. I agree that just because someone has a degree doesn't mean they are any smarter than anyone else, but I do respect the discipline and hard work that goes into getting a degree, especially masters and PHD. Since my life direction didn't require the formal learning, I went my own way and have done well, but if I had the calling to be a physicist or a surgeon for example, I would have stayed at school because nobody wants a surgeon that hasn't learned properly.

Even that is BULLSHIT.

you havent even understood how Science works and what she believes.

Dark Twin was never supposed to crash with Earth, nor could it - planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this.

how and why should this be any different in XX cen?

The order is:

Pluto: 5.913.520.000 km distance
Neptun: 4.504.000.000 km
Uranus: 2.870.990.000 km
Saturn: 1.429.400.000 km

NOT: Uranus, Neptune, Saturn

Zetard shows again he knows nothing and is not even able to google it so does at least not make a total fool out of himself ... AGAIN.

repulsion forces..... heavens sake!
stupidness has no limits.

Thats the illness you share with Nancy - no education and the belief, that guessing can replace it.

So, according to Andrew, PX occupies a position that is both 'near Pluto' and 'near the Sun.'

Wow, that's admirable mental flexibility. I imagine that plays well in other areas of life, too, allowing one to be 'unemployed and destitute' while remaining 'wealthy and awash in luxury.'

I'll give Andrew the benefit of the doubt and imagine he's claiming that PX was out close to the Oort Cloud a while ago (where 'a while ago' is a ZT term which can mean anything it needs to mean) but that is has bobbled, wobbled, and possibly careened to a point near the Sun, while of course not being observed by anyone anywhere.

Sure. Maybe the Magic Fairies drove it there.

But it 'heated the Earth' at some point?

LOL, now how did it do this? Does it emit Magical Heat Rays which can ponly be felt by certain dumpy old women through the roof of their condo?

How can it be EXACTLY like when ZetaTalk when ZetaTalk says its already here? You can't have it both ways.


Have you ever asked Nancy about that? I bet she and the "Zetas" would disagree with you.


You're the one manipulating. You're changing ZetaTalk to fit your own beliefs on what will or is going to happen.


Except that the "Zetas" have been saying for six years that "Planet X" is already here.

You have not even a clue how much knowledge you DONT have.

That's not what Nancy and the "Zetas" said. You contradict them again.


The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity.

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andrew calls zetas wrong!
heavens sake!

is there any hope in sight?

and: you dont even know how much you DONT KNOW about Zetatalk....

Andrew stated, without apparent guilt:

"...planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this."

Winner of the Most Profoundly Stupid Post on the Entire Internet for This Day.

Gravity, Andrew baby. Look it up. Repulsion Force? <cue laughter>

You are talking about that bogus:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Total crap ... go and show that your praised physics teacher ... if you want him to commit suicide because of the stupidity he just witnessed.

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it SHOULD have been so, ideally, but in reality it is far from there.

thats exactly the point - in our times science once again presumed that it knows all, discovered all, like "yes! finally we know, we understand how it all works! at last!"

with this in mind it went down to putting scientific dogma first, and checking facts against it.

while it should be putting theory first and looking for facts to prove or disprove it, and observing facts and understanding them and creating theories about how things in general work, on a large scale

But aren't you guilty of the same thing when making claims about the "pole shift"? You said just a few pages back that you don't think...you know. Ooops!

So Andrew, you know how science works, and how all scientists work, do you?

So you have professional experience in a field of scientific inquiry?

from Gerard's forum:



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LOL ... heard Zetas implant icepicks in the forehead these days.





These people really are totally insane.

DECONSTRUCTING THE [BIG] BANG

WHAT BANGED? [Answer - GRAVITATIONAL REPULSION FORCE]

A common misconception is that the big bang provides a theory of cosmic origins. It doesn't. The big bang is a theory, partly described in the last two chapters, that deliniates cosmic evolution from a split second after whatever happened to bring the universe into existence, but it says nothing at all about zero time itself. And since, according to the big bang theory, the bang is what is supposed to have happened at the beginning, the big bang leaves out the bang. It tells us nothing about banged, why it banged, how it banged, or, frankly, whether it ever really banged at all. In fact if you think about it for a moment, you’ll realize that the big bang presents us with quite a puzzle. At the huge densities of matter and energy characteristic of the universe’s earliest moments, gravity was by far the dominant force. But gravity is an attractive force. It impels things to come together. So what could possibly be responsible for the outward force that drove space to expand? It would seem that some kind of powerful repulsive force must have played a critical role at the time of the bang, but which of nature’s forces could that possibly be?

For many decades this most basic of all cosmological questions went unanswered. Then, in the 1980s, an old observation of Einstein’s was resurrected in a sparkling new form, giving rise to what has become known as inflationary cosmology. And with this discovery, credit for the bang could finally be bestowed on the deserving force: gravity. It’s surprising, but physicists realized that in just the right environment gravity can be repulsive …

Brian R. Greene, The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality,
Vintage Books – A division of Random House, Inc., New York, 2004, pgs. 272-273.

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ZetaTalk: Repulsion Force
Note: written on Sep 15, 1995.

Scientists are acutely aware of the attraction force inherent in gravity, as are folks in general. The babe learns about this early, while taking his first few steps. Oops. Ouch! It is assumed that gravity has only an attractive force, and that the planets, in orbit around the Sun, are held in place by their momentum. Does this make sense? What caused the momentum in the first place? Children play with a ball on the end of a string, swinging it around and around their head. As long as the arm is tugging, the ball maintains its orbit, else stops. Why would the planets not drift into the Sun? Are the orbits all that swift so that centrifugal force is extreme?
The reason Mankind is Unaware of a repulsive force, also inherent in gravity, is that for this to become evident there must be a semblance of equality in size and weight, i.e. the mass of the objects, and freedom of movement such as exists in space, and lack of undue influence from other nearby objects. Objects on the surface of the Earth have none of these. They are infinitesimal in proportion to the Earth itself, and thus any repulsion the Earth may have toward a tiny speck on its surface is also infinitesimal. Proportionally, its all gravity, a one way trip. The object on the surface, pushing away, is overwhelmed by the Earth's gravitational pull, the attraction. The repulsion force is generated as a result of two bodies exerting a gravitational force on each other. In the case of a tiny object on the surface of the Earth, its gravitational pull on the Earth is scarcely noticed by the Earth. A gnat or mite. A nothing. Where the repulsion force has not been invoked within the Earth by any objects placed on the surface of the Earth, this is in play between the Earth and her Moon. The repulsion force is invoked between objects on the surface of the Earth, incessantly, but this is masked by the intense force of gravity the Earth presents and other factors such as surface tension or friction or chemical bonding so that the repulsion force cannot be recognized.
The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity. Humans have calculated the force of gravity, which at first they assumed was equal for all objects but lately have come to understand is stronger for larger objects. They have formulas for the force of gravity which have proved accurate on the face of their home planet. These formulas are incomplete, and would not work as expected elsewhere, however. The repulsion force is infinitesimally smaller than the force of gravity, but has a sharper curve so that it equals the force of gravity at the point of contact. For experimental purposes, one would have to be almost at the point of contact for it to come into play at all, and this in an environment where other factors are eliminated or negated. To examine the phenomena, Earth scientists would have to set up a lab in space, far enough away from any planetary body so that free movement is possible. Place two balls in a cage. Put one in motion toward another. Microscopically examine the interchange. They do not touch. They do not bounce off one another. They do not touch.

Zetas RIGHT Again !

Planet X has been discussed and been researched in the scientific community ... but nobody could prove it ... some scientists still research an unknown planet, but cannot prove it so far ... and I can assure you they dont believe that the people who dont believe the Zetas will end up as Octopus on waterworld.

So please explain the "right environment" more specific ... macrocosmos or microcosmos ? Does he come to the EXACT same conclusion as Nancy in the link your posted from zetatalk.com.

You should be able to explain this in total detail.

Funny how science keeps developing, growing, expanding on old theories, perfecting formulas and letting go of what doesn't work and embracing new discoveries. Thanks to this diligence, we have things like wireless telephones, computers, MRI machines, airplanes, etc etc. Too bad Nancy and her followers aren't as flexible and just write off science in favor of imaginary aliens that are always wrong and never admit it. And they write about it on a computer. I bet they never fly or use a digital camera, cuz science is arrogant and wrong. LOL.

Scientists in the exact sciences are very open to dropping erroneous and outdated theories and developing new ones. That is how they make their mark in their field, and that is why we keep getting better technology and leaving behind the old, because science keeps learning and innovative individuals use that science to develop new things that impact our lives.

Contrary to what Nancy says, astronomers tend to be the most open minded and outspoken of the lot. They have wet dreams about being the first to discover something new, maybe have something named after them. You could not silence them in a million years if they knew about a rogue planet. They live for the chance to be the first, to witness something nobody has ever seen before.

If science was so wrong, we would never have figured out how to keep an airplane airborne, we would never have learned how to look inside the body without cutting it open, or achieve instant real time global communication. The computer you write on would never have been invented. Science is your friend, and you would be well served by using basic scientific principles of weighing the evidence before coming to a conclusion about anything.

by the way,

i think new major frontiers for fundamental science will be:

1. research into so called "paranormal phenomena" [telepathy, levitation, etc] and finding particle flows that conduct it.

2. aknowledgment of the Alien Presence fact (including Paleocontact and Government Conspiracy).

3. research into reality of human spirit, reincarnation.

these are the most general directions, of course

as a part of this New Science and its new paradigm will be acceptance of one more way of knowledge - intuitive, introspection,subjective theorising.

New Science will be forced to rediscover the subject, the researcher himself and spiritual realms. science of the future is psychology, it will be leading direction.

Ah, I see ZetaMax is exercising his renowned cut-n-paste skills!

Too bad he doesn't choose instead to exercise his capacity for *reading comprehension.*

I'll provide you with the short version, Max old bean.

Nothing you posted has anything to do with some magical force that would 'prevent planets from colliding.'

Try educating yourself before you execute your next graphic-heavy yay Zetas cut-n-paste. You won't look so silly so often.

Zetas right again, lol -- your neutrality is showing, Max!

Well ... psychology is definitely the science you will be confronted in the future.

You're right, quantum physics is on the way to explain a lot of phenomenas we cannot explain yet. But they wont come to the conclusion we unworthy debunkers will all be reborn as Octopus on a distant waterworld ... UFOs might be real, I never said this is not possible ... but Nancys claims are no reality, she can't prove nothing as even a blind can see.