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You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.


If you tilt the Earth, how can the North Star still be at the center of rotation of the skies? How are SUNDIALS still working?

If I remember correctly . . . Zetas indicated . . . If you combine the effects of the tilt with moving the earth below or above the elliptic . . . this was explained to neutralize or limit the distortion or position of Polaris.

It might be . . . only time will tell. Quantum Physics, String Theory, etc. may also be Science Fiction.


Except there is math to back up those theories. Do you not
understand what theory means in science? It's one of the
highest forms of proof there is. Theories are based on facts,
not the other way around like Zetatalk does - looking for
fact to fit her claims.




Their prediction of a MAJOR New Madrid Fault displacement and major destruction and disruption is very interesting.


Yet I happen to live here, and know quite a good deal about
that fault zone and the research done on it. We're due for
a 6.0 in the near future and depending on where it happens
(Nancy seems to have no clue how the fault zone actually
works) it could be bad or it could be minor. Nothing like
Nancy claims will happen COULD happen.




Anyone who has any thoughts that Zeta Talk may be correct only need to wait and see . . . Note: This must all occur before 2012 as well!!!


Some of us have seen enough and need not wait. It's funny
that folks like me were told to wait until May 2003 as well.




You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??


Nancy's supporters really hate that question and that topic.

They avoid it like the plague because they know all the
questions that will get asked that come with that claim.




Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.


Please do explain how you can tilt a planet enough to see
constellations on the OTHER side of the Sun.

Please explain how you can tilt a planet enough to cause
Mars to continue it's retrograde motion every year.

Please do explain how the Moon/Earth barycenter was not
effected by this halt.

Please do tell us how Polaris stays where it is with only
the usual tiny motions through the night while the Earth
is being tilted enough to see the constellations on the
other side of the Sun.

Please tell us what sort of mindset so easily accepts these
claims without asking at least a few of those questions.

Very eyeopening website ... has some very interesting anfo on Gerard and others:

[link to www.skepticalmind.com]


Wich is info from several years ago.
So how do you know that all of the information is still valid?

So, Gerard, do you still believe that PX was imaged incoming at Nancy's coords in 2002?


I would by lying to myself if i said no. So yes, i believe it was imaged.

Very eyeopening website ... has some very interesting anfo on Gerard and others:

[link to www.skepticalmind.com]


Wich is info from several years ago.
So how do you know that all of the information is still valid?

You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.


If you tilt the Earth, how can the North Star still be at the center of rotation of the skies? How are SUNDIALS still working?


If I remember correctly . . . Zetas indicated . . . If you combine the effects of the tilt with moving the earth below or above the elliptic . . . this was explained to neutralize or limit the distortion or position of Polaris.

I would by lying to myself if i said no. So yes, i believe it was imaged.

If I remember correctly . . . Zetas indicated . . . If you combine the effects of the tilt with moving the earth below or above the elliptic . . . this was explained to neutralize or limit the distortion or position of Polaris.

Holy crap! I had a package of plain M&M candies on my desk, and I opened it just now, and *one of the candies lacks the characteristic imprint of the M.*

Can I please attribute this to intervention by a group of advanced extraterrestrials and start my own mail-order cult?

Are there forms I need to fill out?

Oh and Max, do you need another cause to promote? I'll probably offer dental and maybe some profit-sharing...

You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.


If you tilt the Earth, how can the North Star still be at the center of rotation of the skies? How are SUNDIALS still working?


If I remember correctly . . . Zetas indicated . . . If you combine the effects of the tilt with moving the earth below or above the elliptic . . . this was explained to neutralize or limit the distortion or position of Polaris.


Yes, "Zetas" trot out LOTS of bullshit "explanations" like that. Simply isn't true. If you tilt the Earth, Polaris is no longer the north star. It wouldn't matter if Earth was above or below the ecliptic. Acually, that is NOT the excuse Nancy gives about the position of Polaris. One- she tries not to address the issue at all... two- she trots out some anecdotal stories from anonymous people who don't know how to observe the sky who say Polaris is out of place... third- the amount they say it is out of place is nowhere NEAR the amount which would be the case if Earth was tilted enough to create summer when it should be winter.

I have asked her, many times HOW MANY DEGREES Earth is being artificially tilted. She has yet to answer.

Thanks! In essence she uses the 'Fog of War' to limit clear and accurate answers. Seems like a good tactic, you have someone respond with a plausible yet inaccurate response to someone who does not have a solid grasp of the technical issues and they buy the answer.

Thanks! In essence she uses the 'Fog of War' to limit clear and accurate answers. Seems like a good tactic, you have someone respond with a plausible yet inaccurate response to someone who does not have a solid grasp of the technical issues and they buy the answer.


EXACTLY!

Funny, Max. We haven't seen any photos of you!

:maxface:

Or is it because you're really

You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.


If you tilt the Earth, how can the North Star still be at the center of rotation of the skies? How are SUNDIALS still working?


If I remember correctly . . . Zetas indicated . . . If you combine the effects of the tilt with moving the earth below or above the elliptic . . . this was explained to neutralize or limit the distortion or position of Polaris.


Yes, "Zetas" trot out LOTS of bullshit "explanations" like that. Simply isn't true. If you tilt the Earth, Polaris is no longer the north star. It wouldn't matter if Earth was above or below the ecliptic. Acually, that is NOT the excuse Nancy gives about the position of Polaris. One- she tries not to address the issue at all... two- she trots out some anecdotal stories from anonymous people who don't know how to observe the sky who say Polaris is out of place... third- the amount they say it is out of place is nowhere NEAR the amount which would be the case if Earth was tilted enough to create summer when it should be winter.

I have asked her, many times HOW MANY DEGREES Earth is being artificially tilted. She has yet to answer.


Thanks! In essence she uses the 'Fog of War' to limit clear and accurate answers. Seems like a good tactic, you have someone respond with a plausible yet inaccurate response to someone who does not have a solid grasp of the technical issues and they buy the answer. You have to remember most people have no idea where the stars should be or would be at anytime of the year.

Very eyeopening website ... has some very interesting anfo on Gerard and others:

[link to www.skepticalmind.com]


Wich is info from several years ago.
So how do you know that all of the information is still valid?

Thanks! In essence she uses the 'Fog of War' to limit clear and accurate answers. Seems like a good tactic, you have someone respond with a plausible yet inaccurate response to someone who does not have a solid grasp of the technical issues and they buy the answer.


EXACTLY!

Thanks! In essence she uses the 'Fog of War' to limit clear and accurate answers. Seems like a good tactic, you have someone respond with a plausible yet inaccurate response to someone who does not have a solid grasp of the technical issues and they buy the answer.


EXACTLY!


EXACTLY! that is why only Zetatalk will explain the situation and how they all relate to each other

Stuck on something? ask the question.. you decide.. we are not all scardy cats

EXACTLY! that is why only Zetatalk will explain the situation and how they all relate to each other

Stuck on something? ask the question.. you decide.. we are not all scardy cats

Funny, Max. We haven't seen any photos of you!

:maxface:

Or is it because you're really





JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST!!!! He is even uglier in real life than his cartoon avatar!

And when 2012 comes as goes with no more than the usual complement of mayhem and a distinct lack of any pole shifts or mystery planets in the skies, Nancy Lieder will isuue a statement stating "Gosh, guess I was wrong, couldn't ya just kick me?"

Yeah right. When 2012 passes, they'll start talking about 2020 or 2019 or whatever number is next in line in the Woo Woo Hit Parade...

The Mayans issued a statement warning that the window of devastating change extended beyond 2012 to 2015.

The Mayans issued a statement??? They have an active PR department even though their civilization ended centuries ago?

BTW, Nancy doesn't even believe that the Moon rotates on
it's own axis, as this illustration clearly shows it does:



It has to rotate on it's own axis in order to maintain the
same face towards Earth in it's tidal lock.

Thats too bad

Stuck on something is the farthest you ever stepped out

Geez Melfy can you please stop using such derogatory lies that are clearly exaggerations on your part.

Thankyou!!