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Anonymous Coward User ID: 783724 Germany 10/01/2009 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see how many of these criteria fit Nancy and ZetaTalk. Quoting: taterMarcia Rudin's 14 Common Characteristics of a Cult 1. Members swear total allegiance to an all-powerful leader who they believe to be the Messiah. Quoting: taterMya ... not really, but a little bit ... the see her more like "the wise one", not really a messiah though. 2. Rational thought is discouraged or forbidden. Quoting: taterConfirmative. 3. The cult's recruitment techniques are often deceptive. Quoting: taterDoes not apply, there is no real recruition ... it seems to attract retards though. 4. The cult weakens the follower psychologically by making him or her depend upon the group to solve his or her problems. Quoting: taterDoes not really apply, but some of our Zetards trust ZetaTalk and get weakened by that. But Nancy does not force it, its freewill retardism. 5. The cults manipulate guilt to their advantage. Quoting: taterYes I say. Change "guilt" with "fail" and you have it. 6. The cult leader makes all the career and life decision of the members. Quoting: taterDoes not apply. 7. Cults exist only for their own material survival and make false promises to work to improve society. Quoting: taterNope, does not apply. 8. Cult members often work fulltime for the group for little or no pay. Quoting: taterNot that I know of ... most are fulltime retards though. 9. Cult members are isolated from the outside world and any reality testing it could provide. Quoting: taterThey isolate themself mentally I think. 10. Cults are anti-woman, anti-child, and anti-family. Quoting: taterNot really ... pretty much anti-dog though :) 11. Cults are apocalyptic and believe themselves to be the remnant who will survive the soon-approaching end of the world. Quoting: taterConfirmative, Alex answered with "yes" to the question if he thinks he will be one of the survivors, look a few pages ahead and you will see. 12. Many cults follow an "ends justify the means" philosophy. Quoting: taterNot really. 13. Cults, particularly in regard to their finances, are shrouded in secrecy. Quoting: taterNo idea, maybe, maybe not ... dont think Nancy made BIG money with it. 14. There is frequently an aura of or potential for violence around cults. Quoting: taterNot as long Zetards stay away from my dogs I guess :) Further symptoms: Cult leaders are often psychopathic and power hungry. They teach their followers that the outside world is evil; that the cult offers the only salvation. This creates an atmosphere of isolation, leading to hopelessness. Quoting: taterHell yeah, confirmative on psychopathic. Cult recruiters target people with low self-esteem, presenting the group as a loving surrogate family. Members are taught to do whatever the family asks. They must repress their individuality and work for the good of the group. Quoting: taterNot really, as I said above, these are retards with plenty of self-esteem. New people may receive red carpet treatment, but once they are established members, they may be exploited and abused. They may alter their personalities to please authority figures and fit into the group. Quoting: taterNot really as far as I know Cult leaders preach that society is on the brink of destruction, reinforced by isolating their members and controlling the flow of information within the cult. They manipulate members with guilt and fear. Quoting: taterMentally, yes. Cults try to portray themselves as benign and may hide undesirable aspects of their operation from the public and from members. Thus the stereotype of "blind" followers. Quoting: taterYes, indeed. The followers blindfolded themselfes willfully though. |
andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh wow! you know Lenin! im honestly impressed! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783724Guess you love Lenin, little communist boy ? he was a true idealist, unlike what has come after him - Stalins purge. Stalin was in Lenin's surrounding and he (Stalin) was eager for power from the very beginning, and had secret disdain for Lenin, exactly because his idealism and dedication, which were not in Stalins intent. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As we all know, Nancy had some images taken at coordinates given to her by the "Zetas" and then those images were analyzed with Nancy declaring that "Planet X" was found. Whether it was or wasn't isn't really important. But, that leaves me with some questions: If "Planet X" is here now, as Nancy and Gerard maintain, then why hasn't she gotten the location from the "Zetas" and had someone she trusts take some new images? They could easily obtain their own telescope and do it. Since "Planet X" is supposedly somewhere near the sun, they wouldn't have needed an elaborate and expensive telescope. They could probably get everything they needed for around $500. Or, they could go all out. Hap offered the use of his professional grade equipment. All Nancy had to do was go herself or appoint someone she trusted to do it for her. This would have been the best solution. For one thing, we know the equipment would have been of good quality and properly set up. Second, we know the observation methods used would be sound. Third, there would be witnesses...bunker and debunker. And finally, if "Planet X" was found...it would have been done on equipment owned by a debunker. All of this would have made it the ultimate win-win situation for Nancy. There would be no more debate or argument. They'd be able to rub our little debunker noses in it. And yet, none of them have tried either method. Why? Gerard...Andrew? Care to explain that one? A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mya ... not really, but a little bit ... the see her more like "the wise one", not really a messiah though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783724They may not...but Nancy sees herself that way having once claimed she's like Mother Theresa and Joan of Arc rolled into one. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Earth420 User ID: 783274 United States 10/01/2009 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi ya all! Quoting: Menow 405501And yes, Zetatalk is not a cult... Peace Why do you believe what Nancy tells you? Hello Menow! Hope all is well... and I think no answer would suffice to satisfy what would be of your rational belief in your judgement and conclusion on this subject... but thats ok! I as well am a bit watchful of our earthquakes at the moment, and feeling for Mother Earth... Take care man! We are in these times together regardless of what you think of me! ;) Peace Love to Mother Earth Always |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 783724 Germany 10/01/2009 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh wow! you know Lenin! im honestly impressed! Quoting: andrewGuess you love Lenin, little communist boy ? he was a true idealist, unlike what has come after him - Stalins purge. Stalin was in Lenin's surrounding and he (Stalin) was eager for power from the very beginning, and had secret disdain for Lenin, exactly because his idealism and dedication, which were not in Stalins intent. You are so stupid Andrew ... unbelievable ... look here: [link to en.wikipedia.org] "The campaign of mass repressions was officially initiated as retribution for the assassination of Petrograd Cheka leader Moisei Uritsky, and attempted assassination of Vladimir Lenin by Fanya Kaplan on August 30, 1918. While recovering from his wounds, Lenin instructed: "It is necessary - secretly and urgently to prepare the terror" [10] Even before the assassinations, Lenin was sending telegrams "to introduce mass terror" in Nizhny Novgorod in response to a suspected civilian uprising there, and "crush" landowners in Penza who protested, sometimes violently, to requisition of their grain by military detachments:[2] "Comrades!... You must make example of these people. (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. (4) Single out the hostages per my instructions in yesterday's telegram." Five hundred "representatives of overthrown classes" were executed immediately by the Bolshevik communist government after the assassination of Uritsky [3]." |
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andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what does that look like? Quoting: Circuit Breakerright, Zetas RIGHT Again! No one knows what it looks like. But it had nothing to do with some "Planet X." For one thing, the "Zetas" say planets shouldn't collide because of the "repulsion force." Besides, no one knows for certain that there was a collision. It's only a hypothesis based on the evidence at hand. Zetas WRONG again!! that was not a PLANET that hit the early Earth, but an asterpoid, one of Planet X "moons". it gave Earth a gaping wound where the Pacific is now. all that "continental drift" is attempts by the Earth crust to "heal" itself, fill the gap. "objects of approximate same size" it says, read it more carefully. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 7. Cults exist only for their own material survival and make false promises to work to improve society. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783724Nope, does not apply. I think it does. Hence all the STO and STS banter. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | little human scientists and their mindless wannabe experts making serious look at their faces and pretending to know about everything, aka "eh, just grab a reference book and see how it was" [Earth's geological past]. Quoting: Circuit BreakerThere you have it! Andrew in all his arrogance saying that thousands of scientists, who have spent years studying, conducting tests and analyzing data are all wrong...but Andrew, with no formal education, is right and you should believe him simply because he said so. billions of people can spend thousands of years on doing... nonsense, basically. [just like you "de-bunkers"]. and all the while they could be WRONG. so, that's not an argument. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/01/2009 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi ya all! Quoting: Earth420And yes, Zetatalk is not a cult... Peace Why do you believe what Nancy tells you? Hello Menow! Hope all is well... and I think no answer would suffice to satisfy what would be of your rational belief in your judgement and conclusion on this subject... but thats ok! I as well am a bit watchful of our earthquakes at the moment, and feeling for Mother Earth... Take care man! We are in these times together regardless of what you think of me! ;) Peace Your response is full of judgement of me and lacking any direct response to my question. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that was not a PLANET that hit the early Earth, but an asterpoid, one of Planet X "moons". it gave Earth a gaping wound where the Pacific is now. all that "continental drift" is attempts by the Earth crust to "heal" itself, fill the gap. Quoting: andrew"objects of approximate same size" it says, read it more carefully. Oh, and you know this how? Based on what data and evidence? Oh, that's right...you don't have any. All you have is a belief. Nothing more. And, if what you say is true, then what's keeping "Planet X" from falling into the sun? They aren't the same size. Ooops! A big hole has just been shot in Andrew's theory. The only way he can get out of that is to say "Planet X" isn't really here...but then that goes against what Nancy and the almighty "Zetas" have been saying for the past six years. Oh, whoa is me. Who do we believe? Nancy and the "Zetas"....or Andrew? Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 10/01/2009 11:39 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i feel it is something significant, weak spot in the plates gave way. Quoting: Circuit BreakerDuh! It's called a fault. Try looking it up. Oh, never mind...earthquakes are based on real science and you won't have any of that. yes, fault is a weak spot in the plates, you got it absolutely right! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | billions of people can spend thousands of years on doing... nonsense, basically. [just like you "de-bunkers"]. Quoting: andrewand all the while they could be WRONG. so, that's not an argument. Again...andrew, in his arrogance, is saying that he alone is right. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 783724 Germany 10/01/2009 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 7. Cults exist only for their own material survival and make false promises to work to improve society. Quoting: Circuit BreakerNope, does not apply. I think it does. Hence all the STO and STS banter. OK, indeed ... didnt think of that, took "material survival" more in the money making scientology way ... but yes, you're right. |
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Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/01/2009 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what does that look like? Quoting: andrewright, Zetas RIGHT Again! No one knows what it looks like. But it had nothing to do with some "Planet X." For one thing, the "Zetas" say planets shouldn't collide because of the "repulsion force." Besides, no one knows for certain that there was a collision. It's only a hypothesis based on the evidence at hand. Zetas WRONG again!! that was not a PLANET that hit the early Earth, but an asterpoid, one of Planet X "moons". it gave Earth a gaping wound where the Pacific is now. all that "continental drift" is attempts by the Earth crust to "heal" itself, fill the gap. "objects of approximate same size" it says, read it more carefully. How are PX and the Sun of "approximate same size"? |
andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet she and her followers are sooo happy now that many people died (lowlife STS people they were anyways they think, going to be reborn on waterworld). Of course EQs in major EQ-areas are totally unusual and PX has to be the reason for this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783724STS are more often NOT lowlife, as recent Financier suicides can tell you [cant bear consequences of crisis eating into their wealth]. just saying. With lowlife I do not mean people with not much money. The fact is you self proclaimed STO with your Nazi mentality view the people you call STS as subhumans, not worthy, useless eaters ... which again leads us to typical cult-thinking ... in every cult the members think of themselves as super-humans and those not in the cult are the subhumans. then, you and all those clinging to "common reason" and science are nothing but dark cultists, because you treat people who dont agree with your worldview as "subhumans" and openly call for their rights removed and possibly incarcerated. and cult it is! pretty violent and dangerous one! Last Edited by andrew on 10/01/2009 11:38 AM |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/01/2009 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what does that look like? Quoting: andrewright, Zetas RIGHT Again! No one knows what it looks like. But it had nothing to do with some "Planet X." For one thing, the "Zetas" say planets shouldn't collide because of the "repulsion force." Besides, no one knows for certain that there was a collision. It's only a hypothesis based on the evidence at hand. Zetas WRONG again!! that was not a PLANET that hit the early Earth, but an asterpoid, one of Planet X "moons". it gave Earth a gaping wound where the Pacific is now. all that "continental drift" is attempts by the Earth crust to "heal" itself, fill the gap. "objects of approximate same size" it says, read it more carefully. Read THIS more carefully, Andrew: [link to www.zetatalk.com] "Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity." "The repulsion force is infinitesimally smaller than the force of gravity, but has a sharper curve so that it equals the force of gravity at the point of contact." OK... Now what made(makes) PX slow down as it approaches the Sun? |
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andrew User ID: 783807 Ukraine 10/01/2009 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy Lieder Quoting: Menow 405501Forum Moderator User ID: 783131 9/30/2009 11:09 AM Yes, we DO have a wobble: [link to www.zetatalk.com] wow! look what i posted re this few post before!! where does that ZT comes from? link to GLP? Andrew, there is no abmormal Earth wobble. That's all you need to know. go get your Nurnberg, you nazi! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/01/2009 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then, you and all those clinging to "common reason" and science are nothing but dark cultists, because you treat people who dont agree with your worldview as "subhumans" and openly call for their rights removed and possibly incarcerated. Quoting: andrewNo...because there's more than one criteria to be considered a cult. You only named two....the second of which isn't even true. and cult it is! pretty violent and dangerous one! Quoting: andrewAnd yours isn't? I guess Nancy telling me to go "drown in the pole shift" or to "find myself clinging to the side of a mountain with my limbs broken and useless" isn't considered violent in your world. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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