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I have published in an academic settings and know the pitfalls of that arena.

Blah, blah, blah ... an insulting, lying, anti-science conspiracy kookrant.

and as for me, no i will NOT "give up" on ZetaTalk when 2015 arrives.

And yet, ANOTHER BIG QUAKE!

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

It appears JWD has some explainin to do!
How can somebody make observations like these and then turn around and say he didn't see this?

Either he saw it, or he didn't see it. He can't have it both ways. He gives detailed observations, and then he takes it all back ... later ... I don't think so!

Credibility a big ZERO.


exactly

Face it, ZTers, ZetaTalk is about one barrel of Very Special Kool-Aid from being a cult, and you guys know it...

I see that Andrew has, once again, run away from the challenge of his claim that there are no contradictions in Zetatalk.

Heh.

and as for me, no i will NOT "give up" on ZetaTalk when 2015 arrives.

I appreciate the responses and sources you provide. While none of us has ALL the answers, I am finding a wealth of information and knowledge covering a broad range of scientific facts and theories on this thread from those posting here.


That's part of why I debunk. The bunkers won't learn anything
but hopefully those they wish to convince will see the other
side of the claim, and at the same time in researching my
reply I learn so much more about science. This is educational
for me. It's frustrating for the bunkers though. I guess
some of them enjoy verbal gymnastics but beyond that this
can't be all that pleasant for them to defend something without
any proof.

I have published in an academic settings and know the pitfalls of that arena.


In which field? Psychology? Philosophy? PoliSci? Womyn's Studies?, Theology? Playground Planning? Your subsequent statements make it clear it wasn't in any of the hard-sciences or math.



Blah, blah, blah ... an insulting, lying, anti-science conspiracy kookrant.


Fail. You've never published in any hard-science venue or you've since gone insane. Probably due to the conspiracy to keep your revolutionary work suppressed. Your knowledge of the process seems to be based on sci-fi movies and the X-Files.

You want to publish a Free Energy Theory? No problem. Gather your data, review the prior literature, write your paper. If your theory is supported by all the data, both past and present; and if it explains something previously unexplainable or describes something previously unknown; and if it makes predictions which are testable; and if it is consistent with what is known; it will get published. If it overturns previous theories you may be taking a trip to Stockholm. Note I said it can overturn previous theories. That is the essence of scientific inquiry. It cannot, however, overturn or ignore facts. That is crack-pottery and the conspirators of TPTB will suppress it... with much laughter and ridicule.

Cold fusion? The same as above. You're theory can't have clauses that in essence state, "Here the blah...blah, then the magic occurs here, then the blah...blah..."

In other words - No fairy-tales allowed. Don't like it? Tough. Go take a few courses in creative writing and write-up your "theory" as a fantasy sci-fi novel because What you have isn't science.

You're following the kOOk m.o. quite transparently.

R.

In my early days did research and published in Industrial Psychology using computerized regression analysis and liner programming models to optimize natural resource allocations, to do cost benefit analysis, vocational interest instruments, intelligence tests, etc. The research and publications were used by the governments to eliminate programs, optimize physical resource utilization, maximize outcomes to personnel allocations and maximize the efficiency of education. Much of our findings were briefed to the highest level of government including the Congress and Department of Defense. Many decisions were made based on our findings both fortunately and unfortunately. In may later years I was involved in the instigation and promotion of medical and life science research to include synthetic blood and the emergency use of clotting factors in an attempt to limiting internal bleeding due to blunt trauma as well as the development of computerized medical treatment records to assist and suggest through different schemes diagnosis analysis and coding using CPT4, ICD9 and ICD10 coding. If you do not consider these hard science . . . what is your criteria? The use of statistical analysis to measure, analyze and predict outcomes at desired minimal threshold levels from a set of factors that have been chosen for their predictive significance. While this may not be Quantum Physics, I dare say we use the scientific method as well as anyone.

All we can do is enjoy the dream, make it as pleasant and rewarding as possible. By focusing on doom, you are turning your dreaming into a nightmare. What a waste of a dream.

Care to point out what in all that you consider science?

By science I don't mean applied business math or computer programming. I'd hardly call a CPA or CFO or Business Manager or a Statistician a scientist. I'd hardly call a computer programmer a scientist. I don't think they'd call themselves "scientist" either.

Well, if travel expenses are a problem, I have the solution!

Since the Zetas, according to Nancy, have the ability to conceal Earth's orbit halt by 'tilting' the planet, surely they can use their amazing technology to transport a couple of ZTers a few hundred miles! And if that's too much trouble, couldn't they at least spring for a pair of bus tickets?

Or do they only directly influence planetary bodies and wrapped candies?

Oh - I'm SURE we have been! And that it is recorded in our subconscious - which explains why we feel so "confident" in our position.

ZetaMax is too playful with his opponents to be Nancy.

ZetaMax is too playful with his opponents to be Nancy.


Maybe....maybe not.

I am still not convinced that Melfy is or is not Nancy in form. It doesn't really matter one way or the other to me. As far as I am concerned Melfy fronts for Nancy, as her biggest cheerleader, on a thread where she knows she will be exposed and confronted with knowledge and facts that reveal her fraudulent claims everytime. She has been exposed this way for years now but has no power in this thread whatsoever to ban people or alter/delete postings to her advantage. So Melfy basically is her right hand spokeperson regardless of what Melfy says to the contrary.

And remember when it came to a certain on GLP that claimed never to be actually Nancy but her neighbour....well we know how that turned out. And in that particular s case it possessed differing mood swings as well. It could be as friendly as one day and then agitated and demeaning in nature the next.

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Well, if travel expenses are a problem, I have the solution!

Since the Zetas, according to Nancy, have the ability to conceal Earth's orbit halt by 'tilting' the planet, surely they can use their amazing technology to transport a couple of ZTers a few hundred miles! And if that's too much trouble, couldn't they at least spring for a pair of bus tickets?

Or do they only directly influence planetary bodies and wrapped candies?

Oh - I'm SURE we have been! And that it is recorded in our subconscious - which explains why we feel so "confident" in our position.



so what is this `we' and `our position'

Is the fenceshitter (FINALLY) admitting he is indeed



NO FENCESHITTER??????

I think The Melfster is N.L., but I could be wrong, it's just a theory - I'm not going to 'go ballistic' if you disagree, or if I am proved wrong (please feel free ZM!).

'Nancy' is very complex. She is schizoid IMO, and has multiple 'personas'

She has pretended to be other people in the past, and has been caught at it.

If Melf-The-Great-Zeta-Apologist-Extraordinaire isn't Nancy he badly needs to get a PERSONA of his own!

I just love this thread!

No, we can all agree that, whoever Max may be, he is a ZTer to the bone. No fence-sitting at all.

I just love this thread!


It is now beyond the element of doubt that the bunkers love this thread also. But as far as Ms LIEDer is concerned; well her love of this thread is surely in the hands of man!!

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