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Please comment about the Video regarding the high Resolution photo from ESA. I can send the photo to you if you will email me through GLP or just comment on your feeling of the ground clutter in the Hale Creator. I would greatly appreciate your input!



George...after having done astronomical photoprocessing for the past ten years, I can without any doubt at all tell you that those are photographic artifacts. AFter you have changed the brightness and contrast and zoomed in to the nth degree on a JPEG image, which is highly compressed to begin with, it's no doubt that you will see artifacts that have geometric shapes and sharp edges. After all, the picture is made of square pixels! When you zoom in like that, you end up with all sorts of interference and beat patterns that are not really in the image. Try it with most any JPEG image.

Besides...if NASA or the ESA, both with budgets being slashed nowdays, had an image that actually showed what you think that one shows, don't you think they would use it to gain funding for a crash program to send more probes and landers to Mars to closer investigate rather than just having it sitting in a group of images in a web page? It would be the sensation of the century and front page news everywhere! If they, on the other hand, were trying to hide it, why is it on a public web site in plain view of everyone?

Again, use your power of reasoning rather than following an internet kook on You-Tube.


Thanks for your comments . . . are you familiar with NASA Photograph NASA Photo PIA 10214. In the far left lower quadrant there is an artifact that resembles a statue. Any comments? At regular resolution it is only a speck . . . if you follow the plateau rim from the right to the extreme left there is a small speck . . . enlarge about 200% and you will see it. Thanks.


Greatly enlarge any JPEG image and you'll see all sorts of artifacts. From that point, it's all in your imagination what you see...like looking at monters in the clouds.

Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!



exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

And even if it isn't travelling at faster than light speeds, remember it also is invisible since it emits infra red (making it a brown dwarf when it's not a water world). Therefore no visable light can reflect off it (or.. er something like that). Our puny human eyes are no match for PX.

And don't try and get clever about it having no previous effect on the other planets orbits during previous passes every 3600 years remember, thats several million close passes since the solar system was born). The planets only *appear* to have had a stable orbit for hundreds of millions of years as everything is placed back in its proper place by the zetas after it has passed through.

And don't mention the fact that none of the outer planets are not experiancing any perturbations by the invisible PX which surely must be out the somewhere, because DUH its just to the right of the sun. PX already passed into the inner solar system whilst being invisible (or just very quickly one day when no one was looking) and the zetas quickly correct any perturbations to the outer planets orbits just for the lulz so we really couldn't figure out what was going on. But being STO souls there is a very good reason for all of this. You will find out after you all drown in the pole shift (MAYBE).

Oh yeah and don't even question why is that that if the zetas can play with planets like they were just pool balls (remember how they tilt the earth freely), why can they not prevent all of this. That kinda questioning is why you will drown first!

Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

:idyut:

exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

And even if it isn't travelling at faster than light speeds, remember it also is invisible since it emits infra red (making it a brown dwarf when it's not a water world). Therefore no visable light can reflect off it (or.. er something like that). Our puny human eyes are no match for PX.

And don't try and get clever about it having no previous effect on the other planets orbits during previous passes every 3600 years remember, thats several million close passes since the solar system was born). The planets only *appear* to have had a stable orbit for hundreds of millions of years as everything is placed back in its proper place by the zetas after it has passed through.

And don't mention the fact that none of the outer planets are not experiancing any perturbations by the invisible PX which surely must be out the somewhere, because DUH its just to the right of the sun. PX already passed into the inner solar system whilst being invisible (or just very quickly one day when no one was looking) and the zetas quickly correct any perturbations to the outer planets orbits just for the lulz so we really couldn't figure out what was going on. But being STO souls there is a very good reason for all of this. You will find out after you all drown in the pole shift (MAYBE).

Oh yeah and don't even question why is that that if the zetas can play with planets like they were just pool balls (remember how they tilt the earth freely), why can they not prevent all of this. That kinda questioning is why you will drown first!


Excellent comments!

Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!



exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

Subject: PX Speeeeeed????======>
Date: 10 Mar 2002 15:52:05 -0800

"(NancyL)
ZT: During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been
distilled that the speed of Planet X is some 4 times the speed of
light during its most rapid approach. Why is it assumed that light is
the FASTEST thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because
it is something he can measure."

Here is a free plug for Nancy's latest attempt at writing!

Yes! Nancy's all new "script"/short story whatever you want to call it, download the .pdf right from Nancy's pages here-
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

OK, so the story is plagiarized from "Water world",
and the plot is a fishing net,
science goes right out the windows,
illustrated by a six year old,
grammatically incorrect on every page.

But it does have a "hero" with a three legged dawg!

Subject: PX Speeeeeed????======>
Date: 10 Mar 2002 15:52:05 -0800

"(NancyL)
ZT: During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been
distilled that the speed of Planet X is some 4 times the speed of
light during its most rapid approach. Why is it assumed that light is
the FASTEST thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because
it is something he can measure."


So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple,
it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.

Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!

Ps. I'm back, no longer a ghost. :>

Too bad Maxi..

Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!


You guys are missing the fact that Maxie excells at playing word games. He baited you by saying that Nancy had never said "LONG BEFORE 2012". You thought he was saying that Nancy hadn't said the poleshift would happen before 2012, and Maxie KNEW you would think that. He slipped in the word "BEFORE" because he knew that wasn't the exact verbage Nancy had used. He knew he was technically correct and could bait you with an implication. You fell for it.

This is why I don't deal with Maxie anymore. He is simply here to bait people and play trolling word games.

But look what happened to IMO(John Oliver) when he did that. Nancy took his image and ran with it... twisting the truth and misrepresenting the facts and attacking him mercilessly for telling the truth- that nothing was there.

Never underestimate a skillfull and shameless liar. The images which were provided before showed NO NEW PLANET IN OUR SKIES, but did that stop Nancy from proclaiming that they upheld her claims?

If she'll give coordinates, I'll be happy to take the images.

4#Here is a quote from 88145..."No, actually it is the other way around. Nancy has said on several occasions that px would be here "long before 2012". Every day that passes with no sign of px is a defeat for you bunkers. All we have to do is sit back and wait and we shall see who is right.
BTW, when would you say "long before 2012" is?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145

Then comes the reply from ZetaMax to 88145...

"NOWHERE IN ZETATALK HAS IT BEEN STATED "LONG BEFORE" - THAT IS LIE."
***ZetaMax*** 8/4/2007.
Thread: Minneapolis Bridge Collapse - the Zetas Explain (Page 9)

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Well well look who just got caught in a straight out lie. Melfy has just been outed by Zetatalk itself as Ms LIEDer reiterates her very own original phrase pertaining to her rogue planet arriving well(long)before the year 2012....as it is too far out. (This is from January 2009 but I will dig out examples of where Nancy used this exact phrase in SOZT....EOZT prior to ZetaMax claiming otherwise). "Long before" and "too far out" in this instance have exactly the same meaning.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Question posed to Nancy...Ok, I dont get any of this, but I find it intriquing. Is this Zeta person from the planet of Zeta Reticuli? Is this person a higher being? Is this being channeled or is it real contact and Q&A? What is its ('their') full take on the 2012 buzz?

Nancy's answer...Please read the ZetaTalk.com website, as it is placed there for your edification. Nancy is a contactee, not an alien. We are from Zeta Reticuli. Nancy is in telepathic contact with us, and is not a channel. 2012 is the current establishment approved date, as it is too far out and will keep the public in their jobs until the last weeks, allowing the elite to escape to their bunkers without the mess of the public clogging the roadways.
-------------------------------------------------------

Yet another example of ZetaMax trying to defend the mythical integrity of Nancy/zetatalk with total misinformation. In this case Nancy herself provides damaging evidence against ZetaMax. Quite ironic.

Fence Sitting Test 4# = FAIL!!

Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!



Which is getting pretty close to 2012.

Pushing your autobiography again I see.

Kudos to you for speaking out.

:>

Well gang, it was fun while it lasted.

My IP has been banned, and I just don't have time to search for a proxy that works so I can post. I'm not sure what I did -- I've never even posted out of this topic -- but it may be that very old grudges never die.

Anyway, to the debunkers, keep up the good work. You'll be missed.

And to the bunkers, well, I'll even miss most of you.

Best wishes to all, no matter where you stand.

I shall now die screaming in the Pole Shift.

Salut!

I can try, I suppose. Who are the Mods?

Just finding a proxy that let me back in was tough!

Never underestimate a skillfull and shameless liar. The images which were provided before showed NO NEW PLANET IN OUR SKIES, but did that stop Nancy from proclaiming that they upheld her claims?


I don't honestly expect Nancy to provide coordinates, as even she realizes this jig is up. But, she could prove me wrong and actually give out the alleged location.

Considering PX is supposed to be in the inner solar system, it would show up pretty large in the viewfinder these days. Hard to miss.

Regards
JWD

Thanks!

Never underestimate a skillfull and shameless liar. The images which were provided before showed NO NEW PLANET IN OUR SKIES, but did that stop Nancy from proclaiming that they upheld her claims?


I don't honestly expect Nancy to provide coordinates, as even she realizes this jig is up. But, she could prove me wrong and actually give out the alleged location.

Considering PX is supposed to be in the inner solar system, it would show up pretty large in the viewfinder these days. Hard to miss.

Regards
JWD


It's very odd to consider what Nancy really believes. I would have thought, in the past, that no one could really believe things like Nancy claims to be true in the face of all the evidence against it. However, I have found otherwise, and not just with Nancy. People believe what they WANT to believe. Afaik, Nancy simply will not allow her brain to go where she doesn't want it to go. She will not entertain any idea that runs counter to her basic believe in "Zetas" and that everything "they" say is accurate. I have seen this phenomenon before in "channelling". The "channel" comes to believe that everything the channelled entity says will prove out true in the long run, even if it seems wrong at the outset.

I have put information right in Nancy's face time and time again which would, to any rational person, prove the "Zeta" pronouncements foolishly wrong. She will simply not allow those sorts of things to register in her consciousness. I have said it before, but I believe Nancy to be possessed by whatever "Zetas" is.

Strange, but true, IMO.

Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!


You guys are missing the fact that Maxie excells at playing word games. He baited you by saying that Nancy had never said "LONG BEFORE 2012". You thought he was saying that Nancy hadn't said the poleshift would happen before 2012, and Maxie KNEW you would think that. He slipped in the word "BEFORE" because he knew that wasn't the exact verbage Nancy had used. He knew he was technically correct and could bait you with an implication. You fell for it.

This is why I don't deal with Maxie anymore. He is simply here to bait people and play trolling word games.

Ps. I'm back, no longer a ghost. :>

Too bad Maxi..

Yes, no doubt about it. Nancy has said on numerous occasions that 2012 is too far out, and that it will all happen before then. Even if she means before December 21 2012, that leaves just over two years for it all to unfold. The physics involved make the timely arrival of planet x highly impossible.

In the past she has said we are seeing a dramatic increase in earthquakes, but this past weekend she revised that to say we are on the cusp of an increase. Nancy doing the backstroke again.

On the weekend Nancy posted a rather arrogant rebuttal of JWD and his statement that planet x was never imaged as she continues to claim. I see he has posted on the chat thread, but so far, none of the bunkers has commented, nor has Nancy. I am sure it is only a matter of time before the pit bulls are let loose on him for daring to speak truth and reason on her thread. Keep your head up JWD. There are only a handful of people that still adhere to Nancy, and most of those are trolls that really don't believe, they just like to bait debunkers for sport.

Well gang, it was fun while it lasted.

My IP has been banned, and I just don't have time to search for a proxy that works so I can post. I'm not sure what I did -- I've never even posted out of this topic -- but it may be that very old grudges never die.

Anyway, to the debunkers, keep up the good work. You'll be missed.

And to the bunkers, well, I'll even miss most of you.

Best wishes to all, no matter where you stand.

I shall now die screaming in the Pole Shift.

Salut!

Well gang, it was fun while it lasted.

My IP has been banned, and I just don't have time to search for a proxy that works so I can post. I'm not sure what I did -- I've never even posted out of this topic -- but it may be that very old grudges never die.

Anyway, to the debunkers, keep up the good work. You'll be missed.

And to the bunkers, well, I'll even miss most of you.

Best wishes to all, no matter where you stand.

I shall now die screaming in the Pole Shift.

Salut!




I thought this guy said he just discovered this site and Nancy posting to it, some one or two weeks ago?