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KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/09/2009 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think he actually knows any "real" Mayans?? Quoting: ***ZetaMax***How would I know, Max? And how is it relevant? I don't care to speculate on that. Unlike you, I would rather stick to facts rather than make ASSumptions about things I can't verify. All I can say is that from my experience it is evident that the information he gives is flawed at best, if not intentionally deceptive. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 789874 Germany 10/09/2009 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 3600 stuff is pure Sitchen - written before Nancy even started Zetatalk. Quoting: J.William DellSitchens claims were as stupid as Nancys ... i read his book and its total fantasy crap ... would be a nice sci-fi though. You just made a very sweeping statement on all of Sitchens research work, and I'd like to spar over some of it. Sitchens translation of the Sumerian language is wrong in most parts. 1) Who built the 3 Gizah pyramids and how was it accomplished? What evidence is there to support the main pyramid being built by Pharoah Khufu? No idea about Khufu ... but moving big stones does not need aliens, one person alone can do it: looks here: [link to www.youtube.com] If one man alone can do this without any technical equipment, imagine what thousands of workers could do. So far for the involvement of aliens into building pyramids. 2) By Who and by what means were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed? Quoting: J.William DellDunno ... is there any prove that those places even existed exept the hoax of hoaxes, thie bible ? |
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/09/2009 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 3600 stuff is pure Sitchen - written before Nancy even started Zetatalk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789874Sitchens claims were as stupid as Nancys ... i read his book and its total fantasy crap ... would be a nice sci-fi though. You just made a very sweeping statement on all of Sitchens research work, and I'd like to spar over some of it. Sitchens translation of the Sumerian language is wrong in most parts. 1) Who built the 3 Gizah pyramids and how was it accomplished? What evidence is there to support the main pyramid being built by Pharoah Khufu? No idea about Khufu ... but moving big stones does not need aliens, one person alone can do it: looks here: [link to www.youtube.com] If one man alone can do this without any technical equipment, imagine what thousands of workers could do. So far for the involvement of aliens into building pyramids............... I never understood why people must automatically assume that the great feats of our ancestors could not have been without the aid of some superior being, a god, aliens. Man is very resourceful and creative. Is it so hard to believe that we are capable of developing things of wonder on our own? Last Edited by KeepingItReal on 10/09/2009 03:56 AM Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually did watch most of it, but there is only so much insulting new age bullshit and drivel a sane person can take. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Most folks would take "most" to be "more than half". So - in your opinion, is this guy "sincere" or is he spinning a psy-op? Has anybody outside of a cave in Afghanistan, and Baghdad Bob ever knowingly "spun a psy-op?" Are all Hollywood movies "sincere" fiction with no consensus shaping psychological influences? Youtube is FULL of bullshit videos by cretins who thing they have it all worked out. If you want to waste your life filling your head with bullshit go ahead (we know you must, because you like ZetaTalk!), but don't expect others to be so stupid. If something is credible point us to a decent book, Youtube videos are childish simplistic crap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I actually did watch most of it, but there is only so much insulting new age bullshit and drivel a sane person can take. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Most folks would take "most" to be "more than half". So - in your opinion, is this guy "sincere" or is he spinning a psy-op? Has anybody outside of a cave in Afghanistan, and Baghdad Bob ever knowingly "spun a psy-op?" Are all Hollywood movies "sincere" fiction with no consensus shaping psychological influences? Look at his body language. He is full of shit. But that is just an impression. For starters, he is talking about Mayans with visuals of the Aztec Calendar. They are not the same thing. What I watched was self congratulatory new age bullshit, misinterpretations and misrepresentations twisted to support a preconceived idea. So this is just some lame 50+ time-frozen hippie "Jay Leno" putting a "gag" vid together for laughs?? Yep. That about sums it up. Plenty of those on Youtube. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you're saying that YouTube video is totally bogus?? Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Yeah, essentially, yes. I will let you in on a little secret. Most of what is posted on youtube is crap. If it weren't crap, people wouldn't have to post it on youtube to get exposure. So what's up with the crystal skulls then? You are a fucking idiot Max, you believe any old crap that fits your delusions. Hollywood films are 'deep wisdom' to you! LOL |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 788148 New Zealand 10/09/2009 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is an example of Melfy ing, well, Melfy!! Here are the links to page one and two of a thread started by an AC and adressed to Nancy and ZetaMax.... Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax(10/29/2007) Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax (Page 2) Highlights include: Page One Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish Quoting: Anonymous Coward 264154Then in reply to AC 264154...we have a response by Sock Puppet.... Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish[/] Quoting: Sock PuppetThis is just mean. Why is this necessary? "Sock Puppet turns out be be ZetaMax using an alias to defend himself and Nancy. Then it's ZetaMax's turn.... Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish Quoting: ***ZetaMax***answer Page Two Then ZetaMax is asked to show proof of his World Trade Center ID card.....to which a reply by ZetaMax is posted. Then in comes Sock Puppet to back up his mate ZetaMax.... Oh PLEASE!! At best you've shown ZetaMax has a faulty memory - not that he's lying. He's certainly NOT lying about having to have TWO ID's. Quoting: Sock PuppetHow do you explain THAT Prof-Rabbit?? Then after responding to DrPostman our friend Sock Puppet proceeds to speak on behalf of ZetaMax again... Of course it was expired! It was also recovered at the site. ZetaMax said it was in the drawer of his desk. What is so hard to figure out here? Quoting: Sock PuppetThen it goes back to ZetaMax for a couple of postings. Sock Puppet and ZetaMax are simply the same person, nothing unusual for GLP, but when you dig a bit deeper an intriguing picture of deceit emerges around the character named "ZetaMax". PS:I won't give too much away yet but the point here, as if we didn't already know is that ***ZetaMax*** is NOT what they appear to be. I have uncovered some very surprising statments made by the "person" behind the "mask" of ***ZetaMax*** . These of course have been made under different "identities", both member and AC. Any information to be shared is directly from the postings of the poster/s themselves. As the GLP disclaimer points out Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Some users of this website are participating in internet role playing, with or without the use of an avatar. NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to USE DISCERNMENT and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website. Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 10/09/2009 07:08 AM Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 788148 New Zealand 10/09/2009 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 780906 Australia 10/09/2009 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one really knows why the Mayan calendar ends in 2012. Quoting: DrPostmanThe stone's original carver/artisan/mason could have broken his last chisel for all we know! :mysterymay: Love that one! "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 780906 Australia 10/09/2009 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the crystal skull mythology is BUNK then who is pushing this CHIT??? For kris sake, "they" made an Indiana Jones movie about them!! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***You should do your research... Many crystal skulls are claimed to be pre-Columbian, usually attributed to the Aztec or Maya civilizations. Mesoamerican art has numerous representations of skulls, but none of the skulls in museum collections come from documented excavations. Research carried out on several crystal skulls at the British Museum in 1967, 1996 and again in 2004 has shown that the indented lines marking the teeth (for these skulls had no separate jawbone, unlike the Mitchell-Hedges skull) were carved using jeweler's equipment (rotary tools) developed in the 19th century, making a supposed pre-Columbian origin problematic. The type of crystal was determined by examination of chlorite inclusions, and is only to be found in Madagascar and Brazil, and thus unobtainable or unknown within pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. The study concluded that the skulls were crafted in the 19th century in Germany, quite likely at workshops in the town of Idar-Oberstein renowned for crafting objects made from imported Brazilian quartz at this period in the late 19th century. It has been established that both the British Museum and Paris's Musée de l'Homme crystal skulls were originally sold by the French antiquities dealer Eugène Boban, who was operating in Mexico City between 1860 and 1880. The British Museum crystal skull transited through New York's Tiffany's, whilst the Musée de l'Homme's crystal skull was donated by Alphonse Pinart, an ethnographer who had bought it from Boban. An investigation carried out by the Smithsonian Institution in 1992 on a crystal skull provided by an anonymous source who claimed to have purchased it in Mexico City in 1960 and that it was of Aztec origin concluded that it, too, was made in recent years. According to the Smithsonian, Boban acquired the crystal skulls he sold from sources in Germany – findings that are in keeping with those of the British Museum. A detailed study of the British Museum and Smithsonian crystal skulls was accepted for publication by the Journal of Archaeological Science in May 2008. Using electron microscopy and X-ray crystallography, a team of British and American researchers found that the British Museum skull was worked with a harsh abrasive substance such as corundum or diamond, and shaped using a rotary disc tool made from some suitable metal. The Smithsonian specimen had been worked with a different abrasive, namely the silicon-carbon compound carborundum which is a synthetic substance manufactured using modern industrial techniques. Since the synthesis of carborundum dates only to the 1890s and its wider availability to the 20th century, the researchers concluded "[t]he suggestion is that it was made in the 1950s or later". and Another novel and historically unfounded speculation ties in the legend of the crystal skulls with the completion of the current Maya calendar b'ak'tun-cycle on December 21, 2012, claiming the re-uniting of the thirteen mystical skulls will forestall a catastrophe allegedly predicted or implied by the ending of this calendar. An airing of this claim appeared (among an assortment of others made) in The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls, a 2008 program produced for the Sci Fi Channel in May and shown on Discovery Channel Canada in June. Interviewees included Richard Hoagland, who attempted to link the skulls and the Maya to life on Mars, and David Hatcher Childress, proponent of lost Atlantean civilizations and anti-gravity claims. Crystal skulls are also referenced by author Drunvalo Melchizedek in his book Serpent of Light. He writes that he came across indigenous Mayan descendants in possession of crystal skulls at ceremonies at temples in the Yucatan, which he writes contained souls of ancient Mayans who had entered the skulls to await the time when their ancient knowledge would once again be required. The book is a log of the authors experiences, which are related in a manner requiring suspension of judgment. "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the crystal skull mythology is BUNK then who is pushing this CHIT??? For kris sake, "they" made an Indiana Jones movie about them!! Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Give me a friggin BREAK! So, if it's in an Indiana Jones movie it must be fact???? |
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The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 788148 New Zealand 10/09/2009 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zetas have said 2012 is WAY to far out. Quoting: Nancy LiederYes, a PS still pending. PX is coming at us from the Sun, and we are stuck in our orbit, not going round. Yes, we have seasons, but this is due to benign aliens tilting the globe for our seasons, so Nancy Lieder Forum Moderator User ID: 72288 2/11/2006 7:00 PM Thread: ZetaTalk Live! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 789874 Germany 10/09/2009 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, that bit about 2012 being 'too far out' is going to prove quite problematic for Ms. Lieder. Quoting: Returner 997It'll be 2010 in a couple of months -- which doesn't leave much room for excuses. Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure as CB would say. Actually from Nancy you can learn the do/don't do for a cult. NEVER bring out a deadline. While approaching 2012 I think its pretty easy to make up a cult or to make money with book that stupid people like the Zetards are willing to buy. Í'm off to write on my "Planet X is not outside earth, but inside earth, because earth is hollow" - book. |
Returner User ID: 997 United States 10/09/2009 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011. Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789874 Germany 10/09/2009 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011. Quoting: Returner 997Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology! I still wonder why the great Zetas if they are so powerful and want to help us not just blow Planet X into pieces ... ... btw you guys: Do you believe Nancy makes this up for getting attention or sell some books ..... or does she REALLY think its true what she claims (eg. Is she hearing voices because she is schizophrenic or something ?) |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 780906 Australia 10/09/2009 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, that bit about 2012 being 'too far out' is going to prove quite problematic for Ms. Lieder. Quoting: Returner 997It'll be 2010 in a couple of months -- which doesn't leave much room for excuses. Excuses for Nancy! The Gluons start an attack on Zeta Prime and Px is needed to help with the war effort (ie. sorry guys we are out of here!") Raging space flu hits Px and the GC quarantines the whole planet in the fifth dimension. Px warp engine goes critical and they have to shed energy ( But "we'll be back!!") NASA figures out where the rubber band is keeping Px stationary and cut it with a space based laser (sproing! wheee!) "Outbreak of war with the Deltans requires Px as WMD, zetas engage warp drive with an Arnie like "We'll be back!" "Imminent failure of planet core requires "dry dock" of Px for repairs" "No one is ready for the fourth dimension shift so the zetas will go around and try again in 3,600 years." I told her once before I could rewrite some of her material and make it more fantastic, things like: Zetas control the core of their planet for masses of geo-thermal energy! Px avoids being fried by the sun by phase shifting! Zetas have run out of sliced human pizza topping! Zetas put in a hyper-ramp so the "dark twin" can hop over the stalled earth and go around again! Nancy's implant goes haywire when using her microwave to heat her worm soup and turns her into a blithering idiot! (oops, thats history,) Last Edited by Prof_Rabbit on 10/09/2009 10:33 AM "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011. Quoting: Returner 997Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology! PLEASE don't give her any ideas!!! |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 780906 Australia 10/09/2009 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CB came up with this one.. Here's one I just thought of: After a few years of supply shortages, revisions and firmware changes, the "Zetas" upgrade the chip in Nancy's head with the latest technology and she discovers that everything she said was mis-translated. It turns out that "Planet X" was really a galactic strip club that opened in 2003 near the sun featuring exotic pole dancers. 2012 was "too far out" for the arrival of their new pool tables. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 4/8/2009 at 11:32 AM "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789933 United Kingdom 10/09/2009 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... btw you guys: Do you believe Nancy makes this up for getting attention or sell some books ..... or does she REALLY think its true what she claims (eg. Is she hearing voices because she is schizophrenic or something ?) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789874IMO, she's definitely suffering from some kind of delusional psychosis. I think she believed herself until May 2003, but since then things have been crumbling and now it is more a matter of saving-face and attempting to salvage something from the wreckage. In addition, she has a HUGE, planet-sized ego which loves the idea of being some kind of high priestess/guru. I have the feeling that the commercial aspect has never been the most important thing for Nancy (just as well really!) - she is doing it all for her own very powerful psychological reasons. The 'sock-puppet' behaviour is very telling; her other 'personas' become evident during such sessions. |
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***ZetaMax*** User ID: 659599 United States 10/09/2009 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is an example of Melfy ing, well, Quoting: The Lone RangerMelfy!! Here are the links to page one and two of a thread started by an AC and adressed to Nancy and ZetaMax.... Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax(10/29/2007) Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax (Page 2) Highlights include: Page One Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish Then in reply to AC 264154...we have a response by Sock Puppet.... Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish[/] This is just mean. Why is this necessary? "Sock Puppet turns out be be ZetaMax using an alias to defend himself and Nancy. Then it's ZetaMax's turn.... Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish answer Page Two Then ZetaMax is asked to show proof of his World Trade Center ID card.....to which a reply by ZetaMax is posted. Then in comes Sock Puppet to back up his mate ZetaMax.... Oh PLEASE!! At best you've shown ZetaMax has a faulty memory - not that he's lying. He's certainly NOT lying about having to have TWO ID's. How do you explain THAT Prof-Rabbit?? Then after responding to DrPostman our friend Sock Puppet proceeds to speak on behalf of ZetaMax again... Of course it was expired! It was also recovered at the site. ZetaMax said it was in the drawer of his desk. What is so hard to figure out here? Then it goes back to ZetaMax for a couple of postings. Sock Puppet and ZetaMax are simply the same person, nothing unusual for GLP, but when you dig a bit deeper an intriguing picture of deceit emerges around the character named "ZetaMax". PS:I won't give too much away yet but the point here, as if we didn't already know is that ***ZetaMax*** is NOT what they appear to be. I have uncovered some very surprising statments made by the "person" behind the "mask" of ***ZetaMax*** . These of course have been made under different "identities", both member and AC. Any information to be shared is directly from the postings of the poster/s themselves. As the GLP disclaimer points out Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Some users of this website are participating in internet role playing, with or without the use of an avatar. NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to USE DISCERNMENT and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website. Where's your PROOF??? The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |