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Why should anyone believe a KNOWN LIAR and SHILL???

I see Loser has a new member of his tag team - Black Crow. In just two short years a lot of Nancy supporters will be eating crow. But it won't be dog.

Black Crow is a real piece of work. He reckons himself as being especially special, a source of spiritual enlightenment for all. He doesn't like me because I don't conform to his stereotypical and over romanticized idea of what an indigenous person should be, so he reckons I must be lying about my race. He is really special. If you don't believe me, just ask him.

Why should anyone believe a KNOWN LIAR and SHILL???

Is this STILL going on? And Nancy still has supporters? HOW CAN THEY BE THAT DUMB?

Why should anyone believe a KNOWN LIAR and SHILL???

You're right...so why do you find it so hard to understand why we don't believe you, Nancy or User?

Why should anyone believe a KNOWN LIAR and SHILL???

You're right...so why do you find it so hard to understand why we don't believe you, Nancy or User?


Melfy is obviously one short of a six pack.....what else could explain Melfy's behaviour?

Why how could I forget so quickly.......Melfy did afterall have a complete GLP Melfdown so a little compassion should be afforded to the zidiot.

My name is ***NOT*** LIARMax!!!


It's not ZetaMax either. But you definitely are a PROVEN liar.


Go ahead, NAME even a single "lie" I have told. I DARE you!!

There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?

My take on the source of Nancy's material is that she has been duped by some unhelpful entities.

Whenever you call out for contact with other entities, you are leaving yourself wide open to all sorts of things that most people do not understand, nor can they protect themselves from them.

Everything is energy and consciousness. We are but one form of conscious energy. There are many others. None are more or less advanced than we, they just have different forms and perceive the energy around them so differently as to not be of this world. It is all about how we perceive and define what we see that determines the world we live in and how we see other conscious energetic beings.

There are entities that latch onto other lifeforms. They aren't evil, they only do what is in their nature to do, and they feed off the life energy of organic life forms. The good news is that in most cases, they cannot do this unless invited. That is why it is so silly and dangerous to ask for other entities to contact you. Without realizing it, you are inviting them to feed off your own life essence, and they really have nothing to offer in exchange. You might as well hang a sign that says "Free Lunch" around your neck.

If one were able to see these entities with their eyes, they would look like any number of energetic configurations and tentacles. Once you have experience seeing them without freaking out, you can learn the subtle differences and distinguish the very few that have anything that would be of interest to us. In my experience, it is a pointless exercise to be in contact with them. They can bring much more harm than good, and usually it is not their intention. They are just so removed from our world, and their nature is so different. They complicate things at best, and at worst they can reduce you to a blathering idiot and slowly sap you of your life essence.

These entities surround us yet they are not here. It is hard to explain. Everything that is exists right here and now, but the bands of perception are what prevent us from seeing it all. Likewise, they only perceive us if they choose to. Their world is so alien to ours, as our world is completely alien to them. In that sense, it is correct to call them aliens, but they do not come from other planets.

The world we see is a construct of our mind, interpreting the energies we sense. We learn descriptions and definitions from the time we are born, and as we adopt them and apply them, the world we see solidifies. This is how an energetic configuration becomes a plant or a mountain or a bug. Once we learn to correlate a description with a given energetic configuration, we will always see it according to that description, unless we learn to suspend our inner dictionary. If we learn to do that, we could see the bug as an energetic being, or we could apply a new description and see it as a pterodactyl or anything else of our choosing.

When we encounter energetic configurations, or aware beings that we have no description for, the mind struggles to find one that is familiar within our inventory of definitions and descriptions. This is why people claim to see aliens, angels, demons, elfs, fairies, spirit guides, departed spirits, etc. The visitor is real, but the way we see them is very subjective. We tend to choose the one we feel most comfortable with. It is a natural human response when confronted with the unknown.

Once you have defined a given energetic entity with a description that your mind accepts, you will see it according to that description. If you want an alien, you will see an alien, and the entity will comply and appear as you have defined the perception.

I think this is what Nancy has done. She called out for contact, and attracted entities she did not understand. Faced with the unknown, something she had no description for, she reached into her subconscious inventory and the description that she felt most comfortable with was the Zeta alien. Unfortunately, most of what she is given is totally useless. It is like a worm on a hook to keep her compliant, as they feed off her life force. I also think that on some level she knows her Zetas are yanking her chain, but she has so much invested in ZetaTalk that she can't stop, and invents material which she attributes to a higher source.

One of the main reasons why I speak out regarding Nancy and Zeta Talk is that she encourages people to send out the call. Everything you need to know as a human being is within your own being. You do not need to be enlightened by any other entity outside yourself. My recommendation is that when you feel such presences, just voice out loud that you want them to leave you alone. Much more often than not, they will respect your wish. After all, there is no shortage of organic beings that willingly offer to host them.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.

Jesus Christ "healer man", you've got a lot of nerve calling Nancy Lieder loony or crazy!

That was some of the most fucked up shit I have read in a LONG time.

You really are full of yourself and I think ... SICK IN THE HEAD!! (((shaking head)))

Unbefuckinlievable.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.


KIR,

What was your wakeup call?

Unfortunately the prognosis for Nancy is not good, claiming planet x as an incoming brown dwarf star in 1995 Nancy has escalated her claims over the years to culminate in the destruction of life as we know it in 2003, when this failed to materialize (and all her supporters left) Nancy's delusion simply grew and common sense of any kind disappeared, now a "water planet" inside the orbit of Venus planet x fails to vaporize due to a protective "dust cloud" while remaining invisible from all telescopes on earth.

Meanwhile Planet x and it's zetas have stopped the earth from orbiting and bob the earth up and down to fool everyone that nothing is amiss, Nancy "channels" zeta information via a "chip" in her head put there by the zetas who originally contacted Nancy by showing her an unwrapped starburst candy in a box.

Nancy wants us to prepare for planet wide destruction "real soon" during which 95% of humans will perish while true "believers" will be saved by Nancy and her zetas. I guess this is a minimalist synopsis. Nancy's proof of planet x includes pictures of a child's kite in front of the sun.

After more than 12 years without treatment Nancy demonstrates several psychotic disorders including, Delusional Disorder, Schizophrenia and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, while her family originally attempted to help, Nancy refused and has progressively deteriorated over the ensuing years.

Nancy has a complex mental condition that includes a "Messianic complex" vis.

quote
Messianic complex is a psychological state in which the individual believes him/herself to be, or is destined to become, the saviour of the particular field, a group, an event, a time period, or in an extreme scenario, the world.

People with Messianic Complexes tend to see themselves as saviours to a specific group of people or a specific field, making claims of their own glory, or claiming a self awareness of their own gift and how that gift can affect a group of people or a field of life.

In the most extreme cases, people with Messianic Complexes may see themselves as spiritual/religious Messiahs with transcendent powers who are destined to save the world.
end quote

FreeStore bought this hook line and sinker, giving up his worldly possessions to build a shelter, when May 2003 came and went FreeStore was left to either admit he made a mistake or follow Nancy, FreeStore was so entrenched with the idea of zetas that his wife and child left, so FreeStore has nothing except Nancy and the zetas, it is a sad story, one that demonstrates what happens to a cult after it collapses.

Why should anyone believe a KNOWN LIAR and SHILL???

You're right...so why do you find it so hard to understand why we don't believe you, Nancy or User?


Melfy is obviously one short of a six pack.....what else could explain Melfy's behaviour?

Why how could I forget so quickly.......Melfy did afterall have a complete GLP Melfdown so a little compassion should be afforded to the zidiot.





I think he is a few oats shy of a haggis. Hell, he can't even read the script he lies from with any conviction.

Jesus Christ "healer man", you've got a lot of nerve calling Nancy Lieder loony or crazy!

That was some of the most fucked up shit I have read in a LONG time.

You really are full of yourself and I think ... SICK IN THE HEAD!! (((shaking head)))

Unbefuckinlievable.

Finally, I don't see where I called Nancy loony or crazy. How did you get that from my post. Oh. That's right, you just froth at the mouth without any proof or reason.

Luser is certainly all worked up today.

I can almost *see* the spittle flying as he rants!

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.


KIR,


Again, I don't expect anyone to believe this. It is something you have to discover and work through on your own. When I think back, there was a friend of my grandfather's that told me back when I was a teenager that I needed to disregard the "wisdom" of that indian, but I didn't listen. I had to learn it myself, though I would have saved myself a lot of trouble if I had just believed him. Some of you will think I am completely nuts, and maybe I am. But hey, I am in good company. This is GLP after all.

The ban button is really the only ammuntion Melfy and Nancy and Luser have left in their arsenal.

Reason, facts, and evidence have all fled them.