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KeepingItReal

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From Nancy's thread.



I was wondering how the debunkers can still say all is fine with evidence like this earthquake chart...
[link to www.nowpublic.com]





Watch the deflunkers completely ignore this strong evidence. And even more telling is the earthquake data is for earthquakes 6-8 richter. There has been a MASSIVE increase just as the Zetas said there would be.

Debate that Keeping It Not-so Real!


What are you going on about now, Luser? I am not even part of the discussion you reference in the quote from Nancy's thread. What's wrong? You too chicken to single out the debunkers that are participating in that discussion? Trying to bait me into posting on Nancy's thread? If you have a problem with me, why don't you just come here and state your case? I made one comment this week on her thread, completely unrelated to earthquakes. As usual, you just can't help making an ass of yourself.





You can run but you cannot hide KIR!

It doesn't surprise me you went mum on this topic. Really!


The graph you refer to is completely bogus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795135

No kidding. Bogus indeed. Hey Luser, maybe you didn't know it, but some people make a living writing bogus articles loaded with keywords designed to make people click on websites and ads. Check out the ads on that page. Survival gear and other doom related merchandise. You really are gullible, aren't you!
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I was wondering how the debunkers can still say all is fine with evidence like this earthquake chart...
[link to www.nowpublic.com]





Watch the deflunkers completely ignore this strong evidence. And even more telling is the earthquake data is for earthquakes 6-8 richter. There has been a MASSIVE increase just as the Zetas said there would be.

Debate that Keeping It Not-so Real!

This is true they do ignore this if they can but they seem to be bound to say something if we push it.
Blackcrow.
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Ah Blackcrow. What a little ankle biter. Its like the little toy poodle that yaps hysterically at the pit bull on the other side of the gate. Blackcrow has challenged me to a debate on the Mayan calendar 3 times, and then run away when I accepted. He doesn't even have the balls to bark at me in the same room, he barks on Nancy's thread trying to get me to jump the fence and tear into him. Good luck with that, lameass. Blackcrow is cut from the same sock as Luser.
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Now, let's see how "mum" Luser gets now that his link is shown to be a hoax.
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It will be a day or two. He usually comes in, makes a big ruckus. Then leaves again beating his chest and feeling mighty about himself.
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It will be a day or two. He usually comes in, makes a big ruckus. Then leaves again beating his chest and feeling mighty about himself.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Yeah, that's how luser operates alright! Same with Max, who has made himself very scarce since he was outed as being Nancy's son. Volar has been absent since being outed as being ZetaMax. They will wait a few days until the incriminating posts have been buried by a couple of pages, and then they will be back pretending none of it happened. They are so predictable.
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Yeah, that's how luser operates alright!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Pretty much.

Same with Max, who has made himself very scarce since he was outed as being Nancy's son.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

He certainly hasn't denied it and we've brought it up a few times.

Volar has been absent since being outed as being ZetaMax.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Just like "elle" disappeared.
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Couldn't help but notice you bypassed my question...it was not rhetorical...

So you're saying I'm unwelcome here? Well shit, I just wanted to help you guys out. Can't we just hang out for a while?


Everybody is welcome into the glorious debunker thread.

Heck if we let the likes of Luserboy; Melfy; and Mr FrEaKy in the door then you have nothing to worry about.

Come join the A Team and stop wasting your time with losers like Ms LIEDer and her ilk.





That's FUNNY Lone Ranger ... you "let" me in the door. Fuck, you're delusional!

You have wasted 4 years of your time on Nancy Lieder now, why pretend otherwise. Stupid is as stupid does!
 Quoting: User #78/68



And how much time have you have wasted on debunkers now...?

Debunkers who, by the by, have repeatedly been proven right in their prognostications that PX won't show, that Earth is not halted, and that the PX idea (as expressed by Nancy) is false...

Just asking.
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I have been telling friends that if we get to Thanksgiving (American holiday in November) and absolutely nothing has happened to cause the average person any more concern than they feel today, then even "I" will start making future plans other than "survival".

So, what future plans other than survival are you making?
Saving up for those steak dinners?
 Quoting: DrPostman


Thx Doc for diggin this out ... I now remember it, but forgot about it.
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So, what future plans other than survival are you making?
Saving up for those steak dinners?
 Quoting: DrPostman


I say this is a classic case of "We got you by the balls" Max ...
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And interesting how he doesn't come around much since it was suggested he's Nancy's son.

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So, what future plans other than survival are you making?
Saving up for those steak dinners?


I say this is a classic case of "We got you by the balls" Max ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 841413

It hasn't been going well for Max lately. One thing after another. His credibility is at an all time low. You can sometimes tell more about a person from the posts they ignore than from the ones they reply to. The way things are going, Max will have to join elle at sockpuppet camp so that a more credible bunker can be created to take his place.
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So, what future plans other than survival are you making?
Saving up for those steak dinners?


I say this is a classic case of "We got you by the balls" Max ...

It hasn't been going well for Max lately. One thing after another. His credibility is at an all time low. You can sometimes tell more about a person from the posts they ignore than from the ones they reply to. The way things are going, Max will have to join elle at sockpuppet camp so that a more credible bunker can be created to take his place.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

_absurd

Nancy's accuracy track record is growing, the "recession" is worsening, the food shortages are getting more severe, the weather is getting more extreme. THESE are the items I keep an eye on. The truth is the TRUTH. It matters not if I was Nancy, her son, or even elle. It's about waking folks up to an event that is being kept secret from them. Nothing more.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 12/15/2009 08:00 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Nancy's accuracy track record is growing
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Yeah....growing worse.

the "recession" is worsening
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Care to back that up with something? Everything I read says otherwise. Granted, it's slow. However, she's wrong for another reason...the recession was supposed to happen in 2003 with the stock market being worth only a quarter of it's worth. That didn't happen in 2003 and it didn't happen in 2008.

the food shortages are getting more severe, the weather is getting more extreme.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Even if what you say is true, for her to be right would require a "rogue planet" to be the cause. So far, none of you believers have been able to provide even the first shred of evidence to show that it even exists.

The truth is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Yes, and the truth is that "Planet X" does not exist. Therefore, Nancy is wrong. She isn't receiving any special messages from aliens. She's simply taking information found on the Internet and using it for her own purposes.

It matters not if I was Nancy, her son, or even elle. It's about waking folks up to an event that is being kept secret from them. Nothing more.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

In a way, it does matter...because if you're her son, which we notice you haven't denied, then you have a biased view and aren't really a "fence sitter" as you claim. It also explains why you support her so much...even though she's been proven wrong time and time again.

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I've been reading thru these threads and you debunkers make a lot of sense. This is what I sort of believe and even if y'all may think I'm crazy, here goes...I am a long time follower of Edgar Cayce, who has a good track record. He mentioned the pole shift quite often in his predictions. He also mentioned CA and other catastrophes for the 21st century. When he was asked for signs about the US, he said "watch Vesuvius". When Vesuvius blows big, then within three months there will be a chain reaction. Not exactly a quote, but a bit of what I remember. Vesuvius may or may not blow in my lifetime, but I won't worry unless it does.
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I've read some of Cayce's predictions and I can't say that any of his are all that accurate. Like all prophets before him, his predictions are rather vague and could apply to a lot of things. I don't think anyone knows when life will end on Earth. But, if you have enough people all making predictions, eventually, someone will get it right.

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Nancy's accuracy track record is growing

Yeah....growing worse.


the "recession" is worsening

Care to back that up with something? Everything I read says otherwise. Granted, it's slow. However, she's wrong for another reason...the recession was supposed to happen in 2003 with the stock market being worth only a quarter of it's worth. That didn't happen in 2003 and it didn't happen in 2008.


the food shortages are getting more severe, the weather is getting more extreme.

Even if what you say is true, for her to be right would require a "rogue planet" to be the cause. So far, none of you believers have been able to provide even the first shred of evidence to show that it even exists.


The truth is the TRUTH.

Yes, and the truth is that "Planet X" does not exist. Therefore, Nancy is wrong. She isn't receiving any special messages from aliens. She's simply taking information found on the Internet and using it for her own purposes.


It matters not if I was Nancy, her son, or even elle. It's about waking folks up to an event that is being kept secret from them. Nothing more.

In a way, it does matter...because if you're her son, which we notice you haven't denied, then you have a biased view and aren't really a "fence sitter" as you claim. It also explains why you support her so much...even though she's been proven wrong time and time again.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Why can't a son be objective about his Mother's activities?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Nancy's accuracy track record is growing

Yeah....growing worse.


the "recession" is worsening

Care to back that up with something? Everything I read says otherwise. Granted, it's slow. However, she's wrong for another reason...the recession was supposed to happen in 2003 with the stock market being worth only a quarter of it's worth. That didn't happen in 2003 and it didn't happen in 2008.


the food shortages are getting more severe, the weather is getting more extreme.

Even if what you say is true, for her to be right would require a "rogue planet" to be the cause. So far, none of you believers have been able to provide even the first shred of evidence to show that it even exists.


The truth is the TRUTH.

Yes, and the truth is that "Planet X" does not exist. Therefore, Nancy is wrong. She isn't receiving any special messages from aliens. She's simply taking information found on the Internet and using it for her own purposes.


It matters not if I was Nancy, her son, or even elle. It's about waking folks up to an event that is being kept secret from them. Nothing more.

In a way, it does matter...because if you're her son, which we notice you haven't denied, then you have a biased view and aren't really a "fence sitter" as you claim. It also explains why you support her so much...even though she's been proven wrong time and time again.

Why can't a son be objective about his Mother's activities?
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Oh come on, Max. If you were objective about your mother's activities, you wouldn't be here so vigorously defending her when she has never been right about anything, when it is easily proven that she is wrong about just about everything she has predicted, and there is no evidence of planet x and the impending pole shift. If you were objective, you might once in a while acknowledge that the evidence against her is compelling, instead of calling it absurd and dragging the conversation into the realm of "paid shills" and secret agents. You would be detached enough to see that your mother needs professional help, that these Zetas are just messing with her, instead of encouraging her.
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Why can't a son be objective about his Mother's activities?
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Ah, finally, an admission...albeit an indirect one.

Anyway, you aren't objective and I don't even know why you try to claim you are. When you readily dismiss everything "debunkers" post that shows your mother is wrong, while inventing rather outlandish excuses to explain how she could be right, that isn't being objective.

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I've read some of Cayce's predictions and I can't say that any of his are all that accurate. Like all prophets before him, his predictions are rather vague and could apply to a lot of things. I don't think anyone knows when life will end on Earth. But, if you have enough people all making predictions, eventually, someone will get it right.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Very true. Predictions are made, some may come true, most won't.

I don't believe anyone is predicting when all life will end on Earth. Impossible. Of course there will be new phases and changes on Earth. Doesn't mean all life will end. There are so many buried civilizations that have been unearthed and also found deep in the sea, so yes it will happen again, but who knows when? No one. However....I will keep Vesuvius in the back of my mind. :)
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I've read some of Cayce's predictions and I can't say that any of his are all that accurate. Like all prophets before him, his predictions are rather vague and could apply to a lot of things. I don't think anyone knows when life will end on Earth. But, if you have enough people all making predictions, eventually, someone will get it right.


Very true. Predictions are made, some may come true, most won't.

I don't believe anyone is predicting when all life will end on Earth. Impossible. Of course there will be new phases and changes on Earth. Doesn't mean all life will end. There are so many buried civilizations that have been unearthed and also found deep in the sea, so yes it will happen again, but who knows when? No one. However....I will keep Vesuvius in the back of my mind. :)
 Quoting: kat38

I studied quite a bit about Edgar Cayce years ago, and came to the conclusion that he wasn't as accurate as people say. He appears to have been pretty good at diagnosing and suggesting remedies for medical conditions, but the rest of his prophecies haven't come to much. I did have the misfortune of being in contact with the Cayce foundation and found them to be money hungry snake oil salesmen, which turned me completely off. According to Cayce, Atlantis was supposed to rise in 68, and there were to have been great changes by the year 1999. None of the earth changes have materialized, yet people continue to cite him and still believe his predictions will come true. There is a guy out there that claims to be the reincarnation of Cayce, even though Cayce himself said that he would not reincarnate until around 2100 in Nebraska, after the earth changes. There are a lot of frauds and charlatans out there.
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:D_Jester: ......a clue!!
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Melfy has many faces.....and yes has a track record of GLP roleplaying.

Big_smile The real strange thing about it is that Melfster's claims about himself have many inconsistencies from character to character......hmmm Loneranger sees a pattern here very similar to another infamous GLP poster.
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:D_Jester: ......a clue!!
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Hmmm. Apparently TLR knows something we don't. Maybe we are wrong about Max? What fun!

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:D_Jester: ......a clue!!

Hmmm. Apparently TLR knows something we don't. Maybe we are wrong about Max? What fun!
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He is LYING. I am not ROLEPLAYING.

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:D_Jester: ......a clue!!

Hmmm. Apparently TLR knows something we don't. Maybe we are wrong about Max? What fun!

He is LYING. I am not ROLEPLAYING.

ULY
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

But you are Nancy's son. Right!!
1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1
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But you are Nancy's son. Right!!
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He certainly hasn't denied it, that's for sure.

Anyway, didn't want this to get buried so User would forget about it:

User...did you even go to the USGS link listed under the title of that chart? I did. Guess what?

earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php doesn't even exist. It goes to another page:

earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/historical.php...which is very similar but does not have the extension /regional/ in it.

And guess what? No chart there. But here's what I did find - a link to this page:

[link to neic.usgs.gov]

At that link, it lists all the earthquakes worldwide and their magnitude from 2000 to present. While the information only goes back to 2000, the data there does not match that listed in the chart. The chart supposedly shows an increase in 6.0 and higher earthquakes starting in about 2000...with a dramatic increase starting in about 2003. Since I know you're mentally challenged, I'll provide the information from the link. Try to keep up:

6.0 to 6.9
2000 146
2001 121
2002 127
2003 140
2004 141
2005 140
2006 142
2007 178
2008 168
2009 135

7.0 to 7.9
2000 14
2001 15
2002 13
2003 14
2004 14
2005 10
2006 9
2007 14
2008 12
2009 15

8.0 to 9.9
2000 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 1
2004 2
2005 1
2006 2
2007 4
2008 0
2009 1

So, User, where's the dramatic increase indicated in that chart? Why doesn't the link listed under the title even exist? Seems to me the person who put it together fabricated data. Care to explain this one?

BTW, if you want information from the 1990s, you can find it here:

[link to neic.usgs.gov]

Still no indication of a dramatic increase. It won't surprise us if you remain mum on this matter. Really.
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:D_Jester: ......a clue!!

Hmmm. Apparently TLR knows something we don't. Maybe we are wrong about Max? What fun!

He is LYING. I am not ROLEPLAYING.

ULY
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Yes Loneranger does know some actual things about you, Melfy as KIR has asserted. But I find it indeed more fun just to watch and wait. In the past Loneranger was convinced to a very high degree that you were indeed Nancy. You know that may well still be the case. The things I have gleened from your many character roles on GLP are very interesting yet when added up are very inconsistent. This may however be just a part of the ploy to muddy the water, so to speak, so as to keep yourself hidden in the shadows. Mind you my debunker friends may well be onto something about you being Nancy's son......anything is possible on these here internets.
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I suspect Luser will be lurking until he figures we have forgotten his little display of dishonesty and his bogus graph. Max and Luser have done a fine job of looking like asses lately, more than usual.
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Nancy's accuracy track record is growing,
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You mean her track record for getting everything wrong!

The truth is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


The Earth is not halted, there is no invisible fairy planet, no zetas, that is the truth.

It matters not if I was Nancy, her son, or even elle. It's about waking folks up to an event that is being kept secret from them. Nothing more.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


All the demented ravings of a delusional old lady.
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12/16/2009 12:33 AM
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Why can't a son be objective about his Mother's activities?


Ah, finally, an admission...albeit an indirect one.

Anyway, you aren't objective and I don't even know why you try to claim you are. When you readily dismiss everything "debunkers" post that shows your mother is wrong, while inventing rather outlandish excuses to explain how she could be right, that isn't being objective.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Kurt would want the house and land, it's all paid for along with $100,000 in upgrades and renovations, the last thing he would want to do it get his mum off side.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"





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