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New Ice Age Has Begun

Just take a look at the headlines at Drudge. It is suppose to be -10 for northern Arkansas Friday night. Unheard of!!

ZetaTalk Prediction 6/15/1996: The weather is blamed on Global Warming, the greenhouse effect, which in and of itself might be an explanation that would hold if weather were the only symptom. It is the heat from the core of the earth and the increased earthquake and volcanic activity that boggles these attempts at alternative explanations.

ZetaTalk Prediction 7/15/1997: The increasing activity in the core of the Earth will eventually manifest itself in ways that will become difficult to explain. Erratic weather will continue to be explained away as Global Warming, the result of the atmosphere heating up to cause swirls in the upper atmosphere.

ZetaTalk Warning: Going into the cataclysms the weather will become unpredictable, with torrential rainstorms where not expected, and droughts likewise where not expected. Extremes of temperature will be experienced. Unusually warm winters, where the trees and shrubs will start to bud, thinking spring, and then be subjected to frost. Similarly, frosts will come late in the spring, almost into summer, killing the buds which have already put forth their tender shoots. During the years coming close to the time of the reappearance of Planet X, the giant comet, all parts of the world will experience extremes.

How about Zetas RIGHT Again?!


ZetaTalk Prediction 6/15/1996: The weather is blamed on Global Warming, the greenhouse effect, which in and of itself might be an explanation that would hold if weather were the only symptom. It is the heat from the core of the earth and the increased earthquake and volcanic activity that boggles these attempts at alternative explanations.

ZetaTalk Prediction 7/15/1997: The increasing activity in the core of the Earth will eventually manifest itself in ways that will become difficult to explain. Erratic weather will continue to be explained away as Global Warming, the result of the atmosphere heating up to cause swirls in the upper atmosphere.

ZetaTalk Warning: Going into the cataclysms the weather will become unpredictable, with torrential rainstorms where not expected, and droughts likewise where not expected. Extremes of temperature will be experienced. Unusually warm winters, where the trees and shrubs will start to bud, thinking spring, and then be subjected to frost. Similarly, frosts will come late in the spring, almost into summer, killing the buds which have already put forth their tender shoots. During the years coming close to the time of the reappearance of Planet X, the giant comet, all parts of the world will experience extremes.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]


and it was and continues to be, so that it is BOTH at the same time! [due to the wobble]

ie, in Ukraine we had it very warm up until mid-October, then sudden rush of cold and snowstorm, - anomaly. then unseasonably warm again. it continues this way up till now - i even saw buds sprouting in late December and flies and mosquitos waking up!!! we had 16 deg Celsius in Crimea following minus 20, and then followed by immense snowfall and freezes again!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

written November 21, 2009

Your summer U.S. weather forecast was right on the money! What about the winter weather (next 4 months) for North/South U.S.? Any more temperature/precipitation anomalies like the summer?

We made the statement last January, 2009 that the northern hemisphere would have cooler weather up until the last weeks, due to the push away of the N Pole. The Earth is trying to lean away from the Sun, as this is where Planet X lies, and Planet X is pointing its N Pole toward the Earth. We have also made the statement that the seasons will seem to blend into one another, and that drought and deluge will continually get more severe, then switch about. This implies not a steady state but confusion, a roiling atmosphere, an unsteady wobble. All this is logical, when one considers our description of the severe wobble. One does not go from zero to 60 in a nanosecond. Things get worse, steadily, when going from normal to a severe wobble. Your weather will be highly unexpected, and can be unexpectedly warm or suddenly very cold. That's our forcast for the northern hemisphere this winter.

Zetas RIGHT Again!

how about this - benign aliens making it all look normal?

and it was and continues to be, so that it is BOTH at the same time! [due to the wobble]

This afternoon i had a thought in my mind
from wich i think it was part of a briefing or so or a meeting in wich
Planet X was discussed.

What i saw in my mind was a image that reminds me of the path, orbit that Nancy has drawn of Nibiru but a little different but i also was shown a position and my feeling was to mention this. In that image i saw a blob drawn
on the path (like red dot) that for what i know is Planet X (Nibiru).

I used a map that i found online and i put a red dot on the point on where i from what i saw in that thought i had in my mind i also felt to put it at this spot.


Map at link:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

This will get real funny if Nancy begins to get pissed ... and she won't like that her minions try to predict stuff.

How PATHETIC is this chit?? Debunking folks conversing ON AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITE???? - one you "obviously" don't have access to. Boy are you dudes DESPERATE or what?? You're handlers are obviously in full-blown PANIC mode!!!




They aren't debunking them...they are just laughing at them.

How PATHETIC is this chit?? Debunking folks conversing ON AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITE???? - one you "obviously" don't have access to. Boy are you dudes DESPERATE or what?? You're handlers are obviously in full-blown PANIC mode!!!

Nope, we just enjoy the tart-show over there.

Free Store admits it:

That's is real genius saying......

Nancy pays me to post on Her threads

GPS Leads 3 Parties Astray in Oregon

January 01, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. — In a holiday hurry, Jeramie Griffin piled his family into the car and asked his new GPS for the quickest way from his home in the Willamette Valley across the Cascade Range.

It said he could shave 40 minutes off the time of the roundabout route he usually takes to the in-laws' place.

Following the directions, he and his wife headed east on Christmas Eve and into the mountains, turning off a state highway onto local roads and finally getting stuck in the snow.

They had no cell phone service and ran short on formula for their 11-month-old daughter. After taking exploratory hikes, trying to dig out and spending the night in their car, the distraught couple filmed a goodbye video.

Like two other parties of holiday travelers who followed GPS directions smack into Oregon snowbanks, Griffin and family were eventually rescued. But their peril left law enforcement officers and travel advisers perplexed about drivers who occasionally set aside common sense when their GPS systems suggest a shortcut.

"Did everybody just get these for Christmas?" asked Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger, leader of one rescue effort.

In Griffin's case, in fact, the GPS device was a Christmas gift, from his parents. He used it for the first time to plan the trip to Central Oregon.

It's one he'd made many times before, following a route travelers have found reliable since at least the days of the Oregon Trail. But, he said, a shortcut the GPS device suggested was attractive.

"We were in such a hurry to get over there, we programmed it in the driveway and went ahead," he said.

In hindsight, he said, he should have double checked the route against a paper map — and packed extra formula for the baby. "We would be better prepared for the unknown," he said.

The AAA and the National Association for Search and Rescue say they don't sense a surge in trips that go amiss because of a blind reliance on GPS directions, but they hear about them from time to time.

"It's usually about every other month," said Christie Hyde of the national travel association AAA. It's a small number compared with the millions of GPS units in service, she said.

She's heard, she said, of one driver who made a right turn as directed and had to be towed off railroad tracks, and another party led near the edge of a cliff.

In Oregon, GPS systems can direct drivers to thousands of miles of Forest Service logging roads that lace the state's mountain ranges. In the winter, they are often plugged with snow.

On Christmas Day, a Nevada couple took one such road in Evinger's County and spent three days stuck. They were rescued when a break in atmospheric conditions allowed them to signal their coordinates to 911.

Three Portlanders and their small dog got into trouble Monday when their vehicle slid off a forest road as they were using GPS directions to a hot springs in the southern Willamette Valley. Lane County officials said the three and the dog were exhausted and mildly hypothermic after walking 17 miles without survival gear to get into cell phone range and call 911.

Griffin's family was rescued when friends and relatives used a GPS like Griffin's and duplicated the route they assumed the family had plotted. That led them straight to the family. The three had been stuck about 24 hours.

Evinger recalled that within the last year in his county a hunter in a pickup followed GPS instructions along a powerline road and got stuck in a marsh, and travelers in a car got stuck in snow when they turned onto a Forest Service road that had been closed and converted to use for snowmobiles.

But, he said, it isn't as if people have just started getting lost in the woods. "In yesteryear, it was people not knowing how to read their maps," he said.

Evinger said the statewide task force on search and rescue he chairs will take up the question of GPS-led trips next week. He said it probably would focus on educational efforts rather than legislation.

Law enforcement officials and travel experts have a variety of recommendations for people who use GPS in the winter or in strange territory:

Use an old-fashioned paper map as a backup. Pack a survival kit for the winter. Configure your GPS for "highways only," or a similar setting, so that you don't get directed to byways in the winter. Top off your gasoline tank, and charge your cell phone batteries before going into remote areas. Pay attention to the weather.

"Our devices don't know what the weather is," said Jessica Myers, spokeswoman for GPS manufacturer Garmin. "It's the responsibility of the driver to exercise common sense."

Several officials recommended zooming out from GPS displays that focus on the stretch ahead. A wider view can point to better highways for a safer, if lengthier, drive. It can also jog a driver's mindset by offering a "full, bird's-eye view of the area around you," said Marie Dodds, spokeswoman for the AAA's Oregon and Idaho organization.

The most common advice was high in "duh" content:

"You can't follow GPS blindly," said Hyde of the national AAA.

Says Dodds: "If you are following your GPS and all of a sudden you find yourself in the middle of nowhere with snow all around, don't go there. Turn around."

[link to www.foxnews.com]

How can PX be in Orion but not be visible at night?

Do the Zetas have a switch that turns the giant red light bulb on and off?

How can PX be in Orion but not be visible at night?

Do the Zetas have a switch that turns the giant red light bulb on and off?


Apparently so.....

Them Zitas then take turns at Planet/Star marbles or in other words the shifting of the heavens to make ALL things appear normal. Although from time to time the bunkers, inclusive of Ms LIEDer, field factual(so declared)reports of people witnessing celestial objects being in the wrong positions in our skies!!

Them Zitas can even simulate seasons to make ALL things appear normal even though planet Earth is stuck in its yearly orbit around our Sun due the presence of the BIG old no-show rogue planet of zetatalk

PS: Never ever forget though(for those that remember)the zitas DO NOT repair faulty earthling computer modems!!.....period!!

Geez, now Free Store is saying the GPS system is failing like the "Zetas" predicted. The problem is - he used the following news story in an attempt to support his claim...which I give him credit for. However, I've put relevant information in bold that shows the problem wasn't with the GPS network or even the receiver.


GPS Leads 3 Parties Astray in Oregon

January 01, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. — In a holiday hurry, Jeramie Griffin piled his family into the car and asked his new GPS for the quickest way from his home in the Willamette Valley across the Cascade Range.

It said he could shave 40 minutes off the time of the roundabout route he usually takes to the in-laws' place.

Following the directions, he and his wife headed east on Christmas Eve and into the mountains, turning off a state highway onto local roads and finally getting stuck in the snow.

They had no cell phone service and ran short on formula for their 11-month-old daughter. After taking exploratory hikes, trying to dig out and spending the night in their car, the distraught couple filmed a goodbye video.

Like two other parties of holiday travelers who followed GPS directions smack into Oregon snowbanks, Griffin and family were eventually rescued. But their peril left law enforcement officers and travel advisers perplexed about drivers who occasionally set aside common sense when their GPS systems suggest a shortcut.

"Did everybody just get these for Christmas?" asked Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger, leader of one rescue effort.

In Griffin's case, in fact, the GPS device was a Christmas gift, from his parents. He used it for the first time to plan the trip to Central Oregon.

It's one he'd made many times before, following a route travelers have found reliable since at least the days of the Oregon Trail. But, he said, a shortcut the GPS device suggested was attractive.

"We were in such a hurry to get over there, we programmed it in the driveway and went ahead," he said.

In hindsight, he said, he should have double checked the route against a paper map — and packed extra formula for the baby. "We would be better prepared for the unknown," he said.

The AAA and the National Association for Search and Rescue say they don't sense a surge in trips that go amiss because of a blind reliance on GPS directions, but they hear about them from time to time.

"It's usually about every other month," said Christie Hyde of the national travel association AAA. It's a small number compared with the millions of GPS units in service, she said.

She's heard, she said, of one driver who made a right turn as directed and had to be towed off railroad tracks, and another party led near the edge of a cliff.

In Oregon, GPS systems can direct drivers to thousands of miles of Forest Service logging roads that lace the state's mountain ranges. In the winter, they are often plugged with snow.

On Christmas Day, a Nevada couple took one such road in Evinger's County and spent three days stuck. They were rescued when a break in atmospheric conditions allowed them to signal their coordinates to 911.

Three Portlanders and their small dog got into trouble Monday when their vehicle slid off a forest road as they were using GPS directions to a hot springs in the southern Willamette Valley. Lane County officials said the three and the dog were exhausted and mildly hypothermic after walking 17 miles without survival gear to get into cell phone range and call 911.

Griffin's family was rescued when friends and relatives used a GPS like Griffin's and duplicated the route they assumed the family had plotted. That led them straight to the family. The three had been stuck about 24 hours.

Evinger recalled that within the last year in his county a hunter in a pickup followed GPS instructions along a powerline road and got stuck in a marsh, and travelers in a car got stuck in snow when they turned onto a Forest Service road that had been closed and converted to use for snowmobiles.

But, he said, it isn't as if people have just started getting lost in the woods. "In yesteryear, it was people not knowing how to read their maps," he said.

Evinger said the statewide task force on search and rescue he chairs will take up the question of GPS-led trips next week. He said it probably would focus on educational efforts rather than legislation.

Law enforcement officials and travel experts have a variety of recommendations for people who use GPS in the winter or in strange territory:

Use an old-fashioned paper map as a backup. Pack a survival kit for the winter. Configure your GPS for "highways only," or a similar setting, so that you don't get directed to byways in the winter. Top off your gasoline tank, and charge your cell phone batteries before going into remote areas. Pay attention to the weather.

"Our devices don't know what the weather is," said Jessica Myers, spokeswoman for GPS manufacturer Garmin. "It's the responsibility of the driver to exercise common sense."

Several officials recommended zooming out from GPS displays that focus on the stretch ahead. A wider view can point to better highways for a safer, if lengthier, drive. It can also jog a driver's mindset by offering a "full, bird's-eye view of the area around you," said Marie Dodds, spokeswoman for the AAA's Oregon and Idaho organization.

The most common advice was high in "duh" content:

"You can't follow GPS blindly," said Hyde of the national AAA.

Says Dodds: "If you are following your GPS and all of a sudden you find yourself in the middle of nowhere with snow all around, don't go there. Turn around."

[link to www.foxnews.com]


In this case, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the GPS satellites or even the receiver. GPS receivers have the option of routing you based on the shortest route available. This person opted to use it before finding out if the roads were clear. As the story says, and I can attest to since I have a GPS receiver, they don't know what the weather is like and they don't know what the road conditions are like. This story simply doesn't support his claims.

Nor do they do renovations on old Wisconsin farm houses.

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?

He's certainly dense. So dense, you have to wonder if it's an act. He still insists that his news story supports his claims about GPS failing. He simply can't admit that he's wrong. Take his suicide threat if "Planet X" didn't show up by September 2007. While it's fortunate that he didn't actually follow through with it, he didn't admit he was wrong. Instead, he claimed that "Planet X" was/is here and that's why he didn't do it.

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?

Nancy claims its legit and shows the second sun. I know its some kind of reflection, but what is the correct scientific term. The vid cannot show the second sun because if there was one THAT bright as it appears in the reflection in the video we would see it in your face all day long when the sky is clear (and then I would start listen even to Nancy).
The bunkers explanation probably will be that the Zetas hide the second sun for whatever reason and probably where occupied elsewhere when the video was shot.

Isn't it interesting how this "second sun" can ONLY be seen on cloudy days. You never see any videos of a "second sun" shot when the sky is perfectly clear. If there really was a "second sun," people would be talking about it. There wouldn't be a damn thing the government could do to cover it up.

it is not me, some other Andrew

btw

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up.

Nor do they do renovations on old Wisconsin farm houses.

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?


Nope, he is without doubt a compulsive idiot.

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?

Would you expect anything better from Freestore, who is as dumb as a fucking post?


I also believe the zetas told me that Mr FrEaKy also used said POST for getting off on. It does get very lonely for the Old Timer out there in them deep Canadian woods.

And when you factor in his personality which drove off the wife and kids, he must be very lonely indeed.

Well folks, I've been offline since last Wednesday night
so did I miss anything?

And when you factor in his personality which drove off the wife and kids, he must be very lonely indeed.


And Mr FrEaKy acts as if the wife and kids just left for others reasons apart from the obvious.....because he had a crush on O'nancy!!

And when you factor in his personality which drove off the wife and kids, he must be very lonely indeed.


And Mr FrEaKy acts as if the wife and kids just left for others reasons apart from the obvious.....because he had a crush on O'nancy!!



I thought it was because he had the personality of drywall and the brains of a clam.

And when you factor in his personality which drove off the wife and kids, he must be very lonely indeed.


And Mr FrEaKy acts as if the wife and kids just left for others reasons apart from the obvious.....because he had a crush on O'nancy!!



I thought it was because he had the personality of drywall and the brains of a clam.


Yep, those are contributing factors as well. Actually I would have to conclude that Mr FrEaKy's wife probably saved her own sanity by refusing to reside permenantly with someone as brainwashed as Mr FrEaKy appears to be.

And when you factor in his personality which drove off the wife and kids, he must be very lonely indeed.


And Mr FrEaKy acts as if the wife and kids just left for others reasons apart from the obvious.....because he had a crush on O'nancy!!



I thought it was because he had the personality of drywall and the brains of a clam.