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Say it with me, CB -- Zetas Right Again!

Aren't you relieved that you don't have to spend your afterlife as an octpus now?

Psssst.....

Penningmeester
Gerard Zwaan
[email protected]

That's the wrong guy.
The city of Winkel is in Noord-Holland.

Being the treasurer of a flower-parade club in a small rural town is rather innocuous.
(Would've been funny though.)

But here is his picture, too:

[link to bloemencorsowinkel.hyves.nl]

And he became quite fat lately it seems.

Good move, CB. She probably needs some work done around the house again anyway.

No doubt the recent increase in the extreme and freakish winter weather is due to the wobble. Per the online magnetosphere simulator, we've been under a relentless magnetic blast assault for a couple of weeks now. Will this be the norm, rather than the exception, from this point forward until the shift? The evidence suggests that PX is almost perpetually hosing us, due to its roll progress and also because the Earth has little eddy cup wiggle room to evade PX's magnetic assault.

Do NOT go on the site that Gerard posted about FEMA just a few hours ago!!!!!!

I went on the site and cought a virus that took me three hours to get rid of! It even knocked me off of the internet. A virus protection program pops fast and unloads then wants you to buy protection for the virus it just gave you. It is called Anti Virus Pro System and is red and puts a blue shild on uour icons. The virus id called, get this, BANKER FOX.A
What I clicked on the site was in the links section all about survival equiptment and supplies....
Once again DO NOT go on the FEMA story that Gerard posted and said it looked good but he did not check it all out yet!!!!!!! Does earth changes have protection???? Something like this can bring the entire ning down!

That's the wrong guy.
The city of Winkel is in Noord-Holland.


But here is his picture, too:

[link to bloemencorsowinkel.hyves.nl]

And he became quite fat lately it seems.

But here is his picture, too:

[link to bloemencorsowinkel.hyves.nl]

And he became quite fat lately it seems.

What's that site all about anyway?

Our guy doesn't seem to have a live away from the internet.

Gerard Zwaan is also an interesting aspect of the ZetaTalk phenomena, in that he was perhaps the first true believer in the words of Nancy Lieder. In fact, several personal accounts have stated Zwaan is responsible for the majority of what ZetaTalk contained upon its webpages when it debuted in 1995. From what has been told of the time from well connected sources, Zwaan peppered Lieder with a multitude of paranormal "what if" questions in private communication which resulted in the "core" of 1995 Zetatalk.com. It has also been stated from close sources that Zwaan's personal identity is very much fixated upon the "reality" that Lieder has spun under the name of her Zetas. His emotional commitment to the "cause" is near fully invested, making it perhaps impossible to do anything but ride the proverbial wave until its inevitable crash.

Now which of you highly paid debunkers was causing this:


Do NOT go on the site that Gerard posted about FEMA just a few hours ago!!!!!!

I went on the site and cought a virus that took me three hours to get rid of! It even knocked me off of the internet. A virus protection program pops fast and unloads then wants you to buy protection for the virus it just gave you. It is called Anti Virus Pro System and is red and puts a blue shild on uour icons. The virus id called, get this, BANKER FOX.A
What I clicked on the site was in the links section all about survival equiptment and supplies....
Once again DO NOT go on the FEMA story that Gerard posted and said it looked good but he did not check it all out yet!!!!!!! Does earth changes have protection???? Something like this can bring the entire ning down!




[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Just checking in from another secret location within NZ.

How are our debunker friends going over there at Gerard's website?

:lol4me: I haven't got much time to go a looking over there at that crap feast!!

I was doing some thinking. PX is almost at the point to create the golden triangle. Once it reaches that point, PX begins to pull earth towards it. Is PX still advancing forward too while pulling earth at the same time? That would increase the timeframe alot for the beginning of the last 7 week to start. We still have a great chance of a pole shift occurring this year. I think it is higher than a 50 percent chance that we have a pole shift this year.

I think that PX pulls Earth towards it when it completes its 270* roll, stands up, and begins to pierce the ecliptic. From what I have read on ZT, that process (the piercing) begins the rotation slowdown and stoppage, and should last about a week. "This is PX's closest point." This last statement is open to interpretation. Does it mean that this point it as close as PX will travel to Earth, or does statement also include the drawing of Earth to within 14 million miles of it?

Hello, I was wondering if the wobble can be proved with scientific indications or facts.

The Geosynchronous satellite (orbits of satellites hovering in the same positions above the earth as it rotates), have the satellites had any outages due to misalignment? Is there any data available that can be accessed? Does anyone know how minor misalignments are adjusted?

It seems to me that this information may be helpful as indicators with the approach of PX.

Just a thought.

I see that about 80% of the regular posters at Gertards place concur in that the poleshit will happen in 2010 (about 8 people are posting regulary so far). This means they will be dissapointed that 90% of the population will NOT be wiped off this year .... at least not from the poleshit.

I think that PX pulls Earth towards it when it completes its 270* roll, stands up, and begins to pierce the ecliptic.

I tried that last night and my wife made me go sleep on the couch.

Just checking in from another secret location within NZ.

How are our debunker friends going over there at Gerard's website?

I haven't got much time to go a looking over there at that crap feast!!


Over at Gerards place some try doing some thinking:

Over at Gerards place some try doing some thinking:


I was doing some thinking. PX is almost at the point to create the golden triangle. Once it reaches that point, PX begins to pull earth towards it. Is PX still advancing forward too while pulling earth at the same time? That would increase the timeframe alot for the beginning of the last 7 week to start. We still have a great chance of a pole shift occurring this year. I think it is higher than a 50 percent chance that we have a pole shift this year.



I think that PX pulls Earth towards it when it completes its 270* roll, stands up, and begins to pierce the ecliptic. From what I have read on ZT, that process (the piercing) begins the rotation slowdown and stoppage, and should last about a week. "This is PX's closest point." This last statement is open to interpretation. Does it mean that this point it as close as PX will travel to Earth, or does statement also include the drawing of Earth to within 14 million miles of it?

I imagine that a lot of you have gone through the same thing I have started to do, and am preparing to do more: clueing in those closest to me, those who I would most love to thrive and survive with, about the coming earth changes.
The problem is, there are few if any people in my life who I think are ready to open their minds up enough to change their lives based on the writing of an old lady who communicates with aliens.
Of course I mean no disrespect to Nancy or anyone else; I can see the truth in what she says, as I've known in my heart since I was a child that a poleshift was coming, though I've only recently discovered Zeta Talk.

But what I would love to hear from you folks who have been around these ideas longer is the following:

How can I present the argument that there's a planet in our solar system that will undoubtably cause a poleshift WITHOUT even mentioning Zeta Talk?
I would say that the target audience is open minded enough to accept that TPTB are covering something up, but perhaps not ready to believe that one contactee in Wisconsin is the only one telling the truth about it.
Preferably there would be some verifiable, documented evidence in there, like undisputable photos, etc...

Thanks so much for your help, and for all your participation on this Ning. This is my first blog post, but I will probably have some more soon...

The thing about truth is, it is always verifiable from more than one source. Most times many sources all saying much the same thing, but looking at it from a different angle. Truth messages are always influenced, so to speak, by the personality and conditioning of the messenger. It is a developed skill to sort out the gems of truth contained in the message from the rest. Zetatalk is by far the best source of good accurate information that I know of.

My closest family members flatly refuse to read anything that is remotely connected to Zetatalk.
I too would love to know how to get round that problem.

Hi Sprout
I think this is a problem for all of us who belive that the poleshift is comming because of planet x. I have presented this for some of my friends, with some disturbing reactions. However, I find the Maya-predictions the best angle. I show them on a pre-made powerpointpresentation I have made some pictures of differnet signs that they have made. It seems more real to people when I show them the pictures and films. I also refernce to known scientists who have work on this field for years. I think if you start to introduce planet x with ZetaTalk, you only scare people away from you. Because, for almost all of the people, this is very far out from their comfort zone.
I have lost some friends over this subject, so be careful with your GOOD friends!

One more thing and you girls wont like this. It also loaded half dozen porno sites and pics on my cpu. When I rebuted my cpu I found that my brouser was also knocked out so I could not get on the net to warn you all and I had to re redgister with att. to get a new broser.

I see that about 80% of the regular posters at Gertards place concur in that the poleshit will happen in 2010 (about 8 people are posting regulary so far). This means they will be dissapointed that 90% of the population will NOT be wiped off this year .... at least not from the poleshit.

One more thing and you girls wont like this. It also loaded half dozen porno sites and pics on my cpu. When I rebuted my cpu I found that my brouser was also knocked out so I could not get on the net to warn you all and I had to re redgister with att. to get a new broser.


[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Psssst.....

Penningmeester
Gerard Zwaan
[email protected]

That's the wrong guy.
The city of Winkel is in Noord-Holland.

Being the treasurer of a flower-parade club in a small rural town is rather innocuous.
(Would've been funny though.)

Are you
now claiming that there has been no crustal displacement
during the last 4,000 years of recorded history? I'll
easily agree with that.


It depends on which side of the Sun Earth was located, when Planet X swung by Earth's orbit. Nancy said if Earth was on the far side of the Sun, Planet X would have had very little effect, and most likely not have experienced a Pole shift. This is assuming, of course, the stars are in the same position as they were 4,000 years ago. Now, it might have been a different story 7,200 years ago....then again, the same scenario could have occurred. This time, they say, we are not going to be so lucky.

One more thing and you girls wont like this. It also loaded half dozen porno sites and pics on my cpu. When I rebuted my cpu I found that my brouser was also knocked out so I could not get on the net to warn you all and I had to re redgister with att. to get a new broser.


[link to poleshift.ning.com]

One more thing and you girls wont like this. It also loaded half dozen porno sites and pics on my cpu. When I rebuted my cpu I found that my brouser was also knocked out so I could not get on the net to warn you all and I had to re redgister with att. to get a new broser.


[link to poleshift.ning.com]