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You can't go outside at night during the winter months and not see Orion completely twisted, along with others such as Canis Major. You can't miss the neon colored chemical smears in the clouds around the Sun and Moon. Surely you didn't miss the Norway spiral. Surely you noticed the magnetosphere twisted almost all the time after Sept 30. Surely you noticed the winged globe appearing regularly on SOHO.

If you know of Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk, then you also know of all the factors involved that I just mentioned because they go hand and hand. Therefore, if you find your way to this site, you know all about it and certainly cannot be confused over the issue.

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I'm logging in for the first time today, Sunday, after doing up the live chat stuff and issuing the newsletter. I and Gerard and Cheryl are mods, so I have the ability to clean things up .. after I figure out HOW to do it. Cheryl was to be gone until 1/8 I think, not sure if she is back, and have NOT heard from Gerard in the last few days. Humm. Wait! I did hear from him yesterday!

In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

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If I only knew where to get all that debunker money :(
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Thanks for this blog Shadow.
I myself developed a sixth sense (a "nose") for the debunkers technique. Maybe I used to be a debunker in a previous life , like when Galileo was alive =) I spot them right like 90% of the time, very few times I play their game, for a reason. The new visitors to this site for the most part don't have personal experiences with debunkers and their methods. They see and read only what the superficial debunking statemant says, no further. However obvious the attempt attack might be to some of us, it is not so to the neophyte. It is very tempting after the first couple of debunking posts to just say to the "chap" to piss off and get him/her/them banned. Unfortunately, at times, doing that is exactly what some debunking happenstances are designed to do, to turn the newcomer off to the message and to make it look that the site is just full of fanatics in a clique like mentality ready to kill for Nancy and the Zetas without regard for courtesy and/or common sense bent up on kicking out anyone who disagrees with them. A falsehood of course, but not all see it so clearly, the STS intents of their posts aren't easily discerned. I sometimes read a debunker's article in the past and had mental pictures of one or more people working at a computer, and saw them sometimes laughing at the stuff they wrote and how they came up with hilarious content they thought was so clever, and how they pat themselves on the back constantly in their own insecurity. Recent posts written by more than one person, with the intentional misspellings, and the all eager that decided that inferring Nancy a "deluded" person in a personal attack was the right time to do it, all tale tell signs. They also delight in creating paranoia, reason for which I think ignoring such posts is the first and right thing to do.
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Recent posts written by more than one person, with the intentional misspellings, and the all eager that decided that inferring Nancy a "deluded" person in a personal attack was the right time to do it, all tale tell signs.
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How the hell do they tell the intentional misspellings from the garden variety misspellings over there?
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They also delight in creating paranoia,
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But of course the paranoia is built in to their belief system which includes a conspiracy so vast that it can conceal obvious events in the heavens, brainwash even your closest loved ones and send Secret Agents to follow you around on the internet.
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In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...
 Quoting: Nancy LIEDer

Shit, I can get paid for this? Someone show me a link where I can apply. Pointing out the obvious false claims and failed predictions made by Nancy should be easy money.

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In future, do not hesitate to let me know about posts like this. I generally check in once or twice a day, but if things get busy, too much will roll off the front page and it may get lost. Flash me an email, and if you are not yet a friend of mine, issue an invite ASAP.

If you want to see what a discussion group becomes when these types are allowed to take over, go see the Troubled Times Watch list. I no longer direct people there, but rather to this ning.
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Nothing but debunkers, talking to each other!

One of the techniques used is snide remarks that, unless challenged, are took to stand as truth. Thus, all time is spend rebutting. I have control on GLP as a mod there, but only use this during the live chats. I can/ban every post that is clearly just insulting and distracting, questions that have been answered endlessly posted yet again, then complaints that I won't address the question. Quotes claimed to be from ZetaTalk with no link, either taken out of context thus or not what the Zetas said at all. I have learned it is better to clean them out promptly, no appologies.

Lets be like Yoda, who was unquestionably STO but knew when to take out his light saber.
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You can spot them a mile away Shadow. Most people in my group are too soft hearted to kill these STS types in the aftertime. Luckily, I do not have that problem. But that's a different story. If they come to this site talking about how they just can't see the logic in Zetatalk, then they are up to something. If you still don't have enough proof to believe what Zetatalk has accurately predicted, then you wouldn't be here arguing your case because the evidence is simply too vast to ignore it.


Unbelievable ... that zetard suggests to "kill these STS types".
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Macho bravado from a bunch of wimps who wouldn't survive two days without electricity or running water.

Those who brag the most are usually the ones without the stones to do anything.
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You can't go outside at night during the winter months and not see Orion completely twisted, along with others such as Canis Major.
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Oh yes I can, the stars are right where they're supposed to be and that's a fact. Just because you don't know what the constellations look like doesn't mean something's wrong. If the constellations like those are all "twisted" then why can my telescope find the orion nebula just fine?
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You can't miss the neon colored chemical smears in the clouds around the Sun and Moon.
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LOL! You mean sundogs and moondogs? Or halos from ice crystals? I've seen both all my life, they're completely natural phenomenon and you can tell whether they're likely to be present just based on the weather that day.
Surely you didn't miss the Norway spiral.
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Sure didn't... funny how it lined up perfectly with the location of third stage ignition for a bulava rocket launched from the white sea.
Surely you noticed the winged globe appearing regularly on SOHO.
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Yeah, it's called CCD blooming, and it happens every time something bright enough enters the field of view, such as with Venus and Mercury. Every. Single. Time.
Therefore, if you find your way to this site, you know all about it and certainly cannot be confused over the issue.
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I don't think I'm the one who's confused here.
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chuckle
I noticed that people are getting a little harsh in accusing others of being STS. I don't think we should judge so quickly. The Zeta talk seems to be getting harsh to many innocent questions. I am still going to show love weather anybody likes it or not.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

EThigh

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So Loneranger was on the money eh!!.

yes_sir It's a seemingly important trend amongst the more highly profile Nancy sockpuppets .......elle was addicted to the booze....and Melfy has an affection for consuming drugs.

Geez who'd thunk it!!

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I would care to speculate that MOST true zetatalk followers are indeed those with serious mental and/or emotional problems. There cannot be any other reason/s to explain such behaviour by these few folk and especially given the fact that zetatalk and Nancy LIEDer have been complete FAILURES for over a decade now.

Since you've used the word "most", I take it you are excluding me from that "commmunity" - which is wise because as you know, I am indeed not part of it!!

onfence
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Nope you are included alright, Melfy.

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I laughed at the threats directed toward debunkers. I doubt most of these goofs could change a tire or heat a cup of coffee without burning down the entire government-subsidized housing project in which they dwell. The thought of them hunting me down is laughable.

They can keep their little woo-woo site. I have no desire to even visit it -- the Stupid is strong there, and perhaps even contagious.
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In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

Shit, I can get paid for this? Someone show me a link where I can apply. Pointing out the obvious false claims and failed predictions made by Nancy should be easy money.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

dbunk
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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I would care to speculate that MOST true zetatalk followers are indeed those with serious mental and/or emotional problems. There cannot be any other reason/s to explain such behaviour by these few folk and especially given the fact that zetatalk and Nancy LIEDer have been complete FAILURES for over a decade now.

Since you've used the word "most", I take it you are excluding me from that "commmunity" - which is wise because as you know, I am indeed not part of it!!

onfence


Nope you are included alright, Melfy.

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Is it really necessary to BOLD the name use to torment and antagonize me? It demonstrates denigrating me is not merely a "regrettable but necessary duty", but that you actually ENJOY it!

Such pleasure has a name - it's called SADISM.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 01/10/2010 06:10 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Ah, I see...the sister school to this one, where you're obviously a professor:

bunky

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Is it really necessary to BOLD the name use to torment and antagonize me? It demonstrates denigrating me is not merely a "regrettable but necessary duty", but that you actually ENJOY it!

Such pleasure has a name - it's called SADISM.
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God, your hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

:EThigh:

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Why are the supporters of Nancy so rude? I have been reading for a few weeks and I see some good comments by people that don't believe her with good links to back up why they say things, but none of the ones that support her have anything constructive to say only insults. If she is right why cant her followers or even Nancy herself show proof or debunk the evidence against her. Why do they only have rude comments and attack people instead of deconstruct the content they disagree with and give alternate information with links. The only links they post are to other sites with no credibility. I think it isn't a very effective way of convincing people that are new here, in fact it turns people away. I have only made a few comments, and most of the responses have been rude insults. Are these zeta fans for real, or are they just role playing? I can't believe anyone can be so uneducated to really buy what Nancy says.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

EThigh

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)

Why are the supporters of Nancy so rude? I have been reading for a few weeks and I see some good comments by people that don't believe her with good links to back up why they say things, but none of the ones that support her have anything constructive to say only insults. If she is right why cant her followers or even Nancy herself show proof or debunk the evidence against her. Why do they only have rude comments and attack people instead of deconstruct the content they disagree with and give alternate information with links. The only links they post are to other sites with no credibility. I think it isn't a very effective way of convincing people that are new here, in fact it turns people away. I have only made a few comments, and most of the responses have been rude insults. Are these zeta fans for real, or are they just role playing? I can't believe anyone can be so uneducated to really buy what Nancy says.
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It's simple really, the debunkers are better "funded".
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Zetamax thinks we're "funded?"

LOL. How do you figure that, Melfy baby? Nancy makes herself look ridiculous all by herself, and all for free! And then she's got you tards hanging around, desperately trying (and always failing) to put a positive spin on her latest deranged mouthings.

If this were an organized project of some kind, it would fund itself.

We're just here for yucks and to steer the occasional newcomer away from the path of insanity that is ZetaTalk.

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It's simple really, the debunkers are better "funded".
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Translation: Better educated.

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Zetamax thinks we're "funded?"

LOL. How do you figure that, Melfy baby? Nancy makes herself look ridiculous all by herself, and all for free! And then she's got you tards hanging around, desperately trying (and always failing) to put a positive spin on her latest deranged mouthings.

If this were an organized project of some kind, it would fund itself.

We're just here for yucks and to steer the occasional newcomer away from the path of insanity that is ZetaTalk.

You're here because you're a good son.
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"it would fund itself"?

Fuck, ARE YOU STUPID!
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"it would fund itself"?

Fuck, ARE YOU STUPID!
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Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.
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Ah, I see Luser has popped by. Hiya, Luser. Still frothing at the mouth and pooping your own pants, as usual.

Shouldn't you be out scouring YouTube for the next fantastic Planet X video, lol?
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In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

Shit, I can get paid for this? Someone show me a link where I can apply. Pointing out the obvious false claims and failed predictions made by Nancy should be easy money.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I've been asking that for years, where is my MONEY!
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chuckle

I noticed that people are getting a little harsh in accusing others of being STS. I don't think we should judge so quickly. The Zeta talk seems to be getting harsh to many innocent questions. I am still going to show love weather anybody likes it or not.


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Paranoia gets them every time!
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I laughed at the threats directed toward debunkers. I doubt most of these goofs could change a tire or heat a cup of coffee without burning down the entire government-subsidized housing project in which they dwell. The thought of them hunting me down is laughable.

They can keep their little woo-woo site. I have no desire to even visit it -- the Stupid is strong there, and perhaps even contagious.
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It's like a feeding frenzy, everyone will try to out zeta the next person, soon many will claim to be contactees and Nancy will ban them, they will become disillusioned and move on to the next woo-woo site.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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Posterity post.

How can I help but to view you as part of the problem an not the solution??

Z


Your "solution" suggests killing off the majority of Earth's population, along with the rest of the biosphere that makes up the planet.

You cover the simplest of observations with a cloud of "what if" to cover plain logic and common sense, eg. how did a bunch of Sumerians survive the last two so called shifts to calculate an orbital period?


According to Nancy the Earth stops first then turns 90 degrees in one hour, the Earth currently spins at 1,100mph, one quarter of a turn requires 6 hours, ergo one quarter turn in one hour = a speed of 6,600mph.

Part A - where we stop the Earth rotation.
Now 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water, if you stop the Earth's crust from rotating the water will attempt to keep going, not sure? pour a glass of water over a basketball. Easy to see.

So all that water will roll over everything, Mt. Everest included, all this at faster than the speed of sound.

Part B - where we flip the Earth 90 degrees.
Now all that previous water is beginning to settle back into the basins from where it came, now you tilt the Earth 90 degrees at 6,600,mph, for a very brief time the water will try to stay in place due to inertia however once it's moving the water is now doing 9 times the speed of sound.

That amount of water at that speed will scour the Earth's surface right down to bedrock. Ever used a high pressure water cleaner? Or a fire hose? you're talking about something 10,000 times more powerful.

Now throw in the mega upheavals claimed to the Earth's crust, the massive movements to the Earth's tectonic plates (see the plate graphics here) [link to www.iris.edu]

You now have an Earth's crust that is molten rock, yes the entire planet, the seas turn to super heated steam.

You are dead! Everything is dead! right down to microbes!

Try to use basic logic, not fairy stories.
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Fuck, ARE YOU STUPID!
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Yes you are ya dumb ass2 !!

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Is it really necessary to BOLD the name use to torment and antagonize me? It demonstrates denigrating me is not merely a "regrettable but necessary duty", but that you actually ENJOY it!

Such pleasure has a name - it's called SADISM.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


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