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You mean with a "open wallet"?

FUCK YOU AND YOU FEAR-SALE!

What does that have to do with anything?

That doesn't mean you aren't her son. Lieder could be her maiden name.

My first wife, whenever she got upset, would dredge up in the course of her tantrums, EVERY sin I ever committed, every memorable promise I ever broke (unintentionally or otherwise), since the day we first met. Not every woman engages in this behavior, but certainly enough that it is considered "common knowledge" that "women do this".

The debunkers engage in the same IDENTICAL behavior, with similar "results".

There's something to be said for "burying the past" and overlooking the "little" things.

Hey, she's the one that said we had the right to throw tomatoes at her if she was wrong. If you don't like it, take it up with her.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/27/2010 08:52 AM

Zetamax, do you still stand by your promise to renounce zetatalk if planet x isn't obvious by the end of next year?

I would think it would have to be obvious by the end of this year to cause a "pole shift" before 2012.

Melfy, you have been married! One of my wives -- yea, they are legion -- would fire up an effing PowerPoint presentation at the onset of every argument and demonstrate my many flaws with a stunning array of pie charts, animated 3D graphics, and on one memorable occasion a professionally-prepared 45 minute movie dramatizing my emotional unavailablity and refusal to lower the toilet seat.

That aside, I will respond to this:

"There's something to be said for "burying the past" and overlooking the "little" things."

We could all do that. But what we cannot do is consider an entirely non-existant mystery Winged Globe planetoid as one of the 'little things.'

It's a big thing. And since it doesn't exist, her insistence that it does and will soon wreak havoc upon the Earth is inexcusable here.

Isn't it funny how women bring up all the the flaws that men supposedly have...while refusing to acknowledge their own?

I stand corrected. Yes, she said the POLESHIFT itself would occur BEFORE 2012...that 2012 was "too far out".

So, Zetamax, do you still stand by your promise to renounce Nancy and zetatalk and admit that the debunkers were right all along if the POLESHIFT does not occur before the end of next year?

There certainly can be no doubt if the poleshift as she has described it has actually occurred or not by then.

A Neptune sized planet in the inner solar system is not a small thing. Neither is a pole shift that wipes out almost all humans on earth. Fifteen years worth of ZetaTalk full of failed predictions and pages upon pages of drivel that defies basic science, common sense and esoteric principles is not a small thing. Basing her life's work on a flawed understanding of celestial coordinates, photos with noise and lens flare is not small. Using the umbrella of a non profit organization to collect money to fix up her house tax free is not a small thing, in my country it could mean jail time if caught. Should I go on?

Do you mean Nancy being wrong on just about everything she has predicted for the last 15 years?

"Little" things like that?

No one suggested it was Mr. Haberman

I don't think a mythical planet 4 times the size of the Earth is a "little thing", neither is painting yourself as the next best thing to god, or zetas for that matter.

Then there is fraud, etc. etc.

What happened to equal rights? or better yet get one of those self-raising seats you see in a public loo.!

Zetatalk the doomsday website joke of the internets.....

oops my bad; that was back then leading up to May 2003.....NOW Ms LIEDer and her crapola website are virtually unknown!!

.....The planet earth has been saved afterall!!



Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 01/27/2010 07:51 PM

Despicable - like thug cops high-fiving each other after a round of police BRUTALITY!!!

And yet, you overlook when Max and User were high-fiving each other after the earthquake in Haiti. That was pretty despicable. So, why was it okay for them to do it after thousands of people had just died?

The high-five was for his skill in lambasting the heartless debunkers - NOT for "celebrating" the earthquake in Haiti. For you to KNOWINGLY suggest otherwise when you KNOW it's not the truth, is truly the depths of DEPARVITY!!!

Luser has no skills. He's simply a little man with anger management issues.


For you to lie when you KNOW that you and Luser were both gleefully exclaiming "Zetas right again!" shows the depths of your depravity!! And you both tried to claim that we "debunkers" had blood on our hands as if we had anything to do with the earthquake.



Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/28/2010 09:00 AM

Melfy, it's spelled DEPRAVITY. 'Deparvity' only occurs when an inventor fails to produce a working full-scale prototype of his invention -- in that must lie the source of your confusion.

Max, how about answering my question.

>> I would think it would have to be obvious by the end of this year to cause a "pole shift" before 2012.

Not necessarily - for it comes out of the direction of the sun, and as such won't be seen without professional equipment until the VERY LAST weeks before the shift. So **NO**, PX will **NOT** be "obvious" in 2010 in order for a PX induced pole shift to occur in mid to late 2011.

Max, are you effing SERIOUS?

You just said, with a straight face, that a body the size of Neptune is going to approach Earth *from the Sun.*

And then you said it wouldn't be able to be deteced without 'professional' equipment?

Dude. A body. The size of Neptune. IN FRONT OF THE SUN.

Think about it, for god's sake.

That's what the Zetas say - and being a FENCE SITTER, I am willing to postpone judgment until the allotted time has expired. I will "offer" that is "seems" improbable - but I not at all ready to "completely" DISMISS the notion.

Why is that required???

Max. You're not listening to me.

A body the size of Nancy's Planet X CAN NOT cross in front of our Sun without it instantly being spotted by *hundreds of thousands of people.* You wouldn't need 'professional' gear to see that even if it was as close as Mercury. A fifty-dollar Tasco scope and a 5 dollar Sun filter is all you'd need.

It would be a naked eye object before it got anywhere near us. And I'm ignoring the impossibility of such a body moving away from the Sun and toward us in a direct line anyway.


Max, you claim you're a fence-sitter. We both know that isn't true. For some reason, you're promoting ZT.

But this is just silly. And unlike Luser and Free Bore, I don't think you are stupid.

You aren't any "fence sitter"...you prove that time and time again so why do you keep claiming it? Your whole problem is you don't dismiss anything the "Zetas" say even when they're wrong. I can clearly see Jupiter and Saturn without any telescope. I haven't tried to find Neptune, but I somehow doubt a telescope is needed to see it. Granted, it helps...but I only had an 8" telescope similar to this: [link to www.meade.com] back in 2001 and easily saw the red spot on Jupiter, several of its moons and the rings of Saturn. I paid less than $300 for it. And Venus can be seen transiting across the front of the sun with a simple telescope and solar filters.

Patently false. No one needs professional grade equipment as was pointed out to you. We can seen Venus and Mercury on almost any given evening...no telescope needed. And "Planet X" is supposed to be bigger than either one of them. So, why don't you buy a simple telescope and a solar filter and try it yourself?



Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/28/2010 12:42 PM

It's coming from behind the sun, out of Orion and towards the South Pole and can't be seen until the very last minute without professional equipment like cell phone cameras.

Neptune sized. That's roughly 4 times the size of earth. Or 5 times the size of Venus. Venus is the largest and brightest visible object in the sky after the sun and the moon. Even if this alleged planet is closer to the sun than Mercury, it would be a naked eye object. Simple logic says that there is no way planet x could be where you say without everyone noticing it. For Christs sake, it would appear almost as big as the moon!!