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andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want some more information Andrew I suggest you look on the internet for Geomagnetic Reversals. Quoting: VestanPanceHowever ill provide you with some. The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. "current field weakening" is effect of Nibiru approach. these are all human estimates. what facts show is that field was twice as stronger 2000 years ago, and 3000-4000 years ago it was as weak as it is now. and no wonder, cuz that time was a time of last Passage, the same as now. however, this statement of your shows how people (and scientists included), tend to "pack" every data into "cyclical" patterns. i often wonder why is that? cuz, yes, many things in nature are cyclical, but certainly not all. i think that "cyclicity" gives a sense of predictability, stability and an illusion of "control", like "Everything under ctrl, we control the situation". the harsh truth is that we are nowhere near that. we do NOT control the situation. more over, we do NOT know for sure what collected data means. we suggest, estimate and make guesses. |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want some more information Andrew I suggest you look on the internet for Geomagnetic Reversals. Quoting: andrewHowever ill provide you with some. The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. "current field weakening" is effect of Nibiru approach. these are all human estimates. what facts show is that field was twice as stronger 2000 years ago, and 3000-4000 years ago it was as weak as it is now. and no wonder, cuz that time was a time of last Passage, the same as now. however, this statement of your shows how people (and scientists included), tend to "pack" every data into "cyclical" patterns. i often wonder why is that? cuz, yes, many things in nature are cyclical, but certainly not all. i think that "cyclicity" gives a sense of predictability, stability and an illusion of "control", like "Everything under ctrl, we control the situation". the harsh truth is that we are nowhere near that. we do NOT control the situation. more over, we do NOT know for sure what collected data means. we suggest, estimate and make guesses. Please dont bring the fairy planet into it. You accuse me of using Pseudo Science yet your quite happy to do the same. Im packing data into cyclical patterns? Your the one that assumes your fairy planet is on a 3600 year spin cycle. Your guesses have all been epic failure, and when I say your guesses I mean those of your High priestess Nancy Lieder. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure they do. Quoting: VestanPancerocks acquired magnetic "stamp" when poles where in one place, then it shifted,and when volcanoe erupted and that rock solidified, it acquired a "stamp" of new magnetic lines That stamp shows Magnetic reversal, doesnt show Crustial Displacement. why preference is given to Magnetic reversal over Crustial Displacement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 909859 Germany 03/08/2010 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want some more information Andrew I suggest you look on the internet for Geomagnetic Reversals. Quoting: andrewHowever ill provide you with some. The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. "current field weakening" is effect of Nibiru approach. these are all human estimates. what facts show is that field was twice as stronger 2000 years ago, and 3000-4000 years ago it was as weak as it is now. and no wonder, cuz that time was a time of last Passage, the same as now. however, this statement of your shows how people (and scientists included), tend to "pack" every data into "cyclical" patterns. i often wonder why is that? cuz, yes, many things in nature are cyclical, but certainly not all. i think that "cyclicity" gives a sense of predictability, stability and an illusion of "control", like "Everything under ctrl, we control the situation". the harsh truth is that we are nowhere near that. we do NOT control the situation. more over, we do NOT know for sure what collected data means. we suggest, estimate and make guesses. Many things in nature are cyclic ... planetary movement is one of it probably ... I hear some people take a bath or a shower cyclic every day ... word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 909854 New Zealand 03/08/2010 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our "dissenting voices"? bwahahaha! who do you "dissent from"? since its you, "debunkers", who oppose the original statement of ZetaTalk, you could be called "dissenters". Quoting: andrewyou are attached to ZetaTalk. your very existence (as a group) is due to ZetaTalk. without ZetaTalk there is no its debunkers Andrew if you want to start talking about zetatalk's original statement or message then you lose boy. Your beloved LIEDer put it all on the line during her March/May 2003 doomsday claims. Ms LIEDer was plainly wrong on all counts and was basically debunked when the so called Geographical Poleshift resulting from her no show rogue planet FAILED to materialize. Your glorious LIEDer even said on the Lou Gentile radio programme, post the 2003 debacle, that people would be only too justified throwing tomatoes at her if her rogue planet did not show up within a certain time frame(weeks not months...if I remember correctly). And when her rogue Planet X did not show up what did your LIEDer do....go quietly into the night....no she come up with that pathetic White LIE crap. And it's no wonder the huge following that your beloved LIEDer had gathered dispersed rapidly soon thereafter. Today all we see is the remnant of her zeatcult. A weaker version 2.0 if you like. Without the "debunkers", a term that Nancy coined because of her unwillingness to debate truthfully and sincerely with the astronomical experts and others on a factual and astronomical bases, your beloved zetacult would have lost its value years ago. You see Andrew the "debunkers" have become a necessary excuse for Ms LIEDer to invent a boogeyman to aid her self importance in her whole fraudulent charade. Your beloved LIEDer excels only at FAILURE and 2012 will be the........ Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/08/2010 08:02 AM Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. Quoting: VestanPance... Im packing data into cyclical patterns? Your the one that assumes your fairy planet is on a 3600 year spin cycle. then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. Quoting: andrew... Im packing data into cyclical patterns? Your the one that assumes your fairy planet is on a 3600 year spin cycle. then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Most probably through the Chaotic motions of the liquid metal at the Earths core. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | however, this statement of your shows how people (and scientists included), tend to "pack" every data into "cyclical" patterns. i often wonder why is that? cuz, yes, many things in nature are cyclical, but certainly not all. i think that "cyclicity" gives a sense of predictability, stability and an illusion of "control", like "Everything under ctrl, we control the situation". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909859Many things in nature are cyclic ... planetary movement is one of it probably ... I hear some people take a bath or a shower cyclic every day ... word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? that's right. but cycles exist where there is an outside reason for it. even in what can seem an "inherent" variability, if one analyses all factors, one finds some external cause. that is because matter is inert by itself, if left alone. it only reacts when the area is "crowded' by other matter [be it objetcs or fields = particle flows]. tides exist because we have Moon. biological rhythms in all life exist because of the Sun and Moon. and so on. why do people suppose Earth has a cycle of Magnetic Reversals? or, if we go in further detail, science says reversals occur at irregular intervals, why is that? then why do they happen at all? you see, science is stating a guess as fact. and even more - basing further assumptions on that guess. it is a scientific method - nothing wrong with that, but we have to remember that our guess is ... just a guess. |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 909854 New Zealand 03/08/2010 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but i very much appreciate this thread ;) keep up the good work. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***You know something I believe that you secretly admire our glorious debunker thread too there, Melfy. I mean Melfy don't you feel quite satisfied after having gone to such HERCULEAN efforts!!! to make our Debunker Thread one of the Top 20 Most Popular Threads on GLP. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Here's a free phone for ya, Melfy if you need to call me up so that you can join up with the winning team!! :boycott1: Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/08/2010 07:57 AM Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do people suppose Earth has a cycle of Magnetic Reversals? or, if we go in further detail, science says reversals occur at irregular intervals, why is that? then why do they happen at all? Quoting: andrewyou see, science is stating a guess as fact. and even more - basing further assumptions on that guess. it is a scientific method - nothing wrong with that, but we have to remember that our guess is ... just a guess. The magnetic Reversals are not cyclical. As I said the last one was 780,000 years ago Here is the list, 780,000 Years ago 900,000 1,060,000 1,190,000 1,780,000 2,000,000 The list goes on, however there have been periods known as Superchrons where the poles dont reverse for upto 40 Million years. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | however, this statement of your shows how people (and scientists included), tend to "pack" every data into "cyclical" patterns. i often wonder why is that? cuz, yes, many things in nature are cyclical, but certainly not all. i think that "cyclicity" gives a sense of predictability, stability and an illusion of "control", like "Everything under ctrl, we control the situation". Quoting: andrewMany things in nature are cyclic ... planetary movement is one of it probably ... I hear some people take a bath or a shower cyclic every day ... word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? that's right. but cycles exist where there is an outside reason for it. even in what can seem an "inherent" variability, if one analyses all factors, one finds some external cause. that is because matter is inert by itself, if left alone. it only reacts when the area is "crowded' by other matter [be it objetcs or fields = particle flows]. tides exist because we have Moon. biological rhythms in all life exist because of the Sun and Moon. and so on. why do people suppose Earth has a cycle of Magnetic Reversals? or, if we go in further detail, science says reversals occur at irregular intervals, why is that? then why do they happen at all? you see, science is stating a guess as fact. and even more - basing further assumptions on that guess. it is a scientific method - nothing wrong with that, but we have to remember that our guess is ... just a guess. Thing is Andrew, I have noticed how good you are at bending data to fir your deluded mindset, you bend everything to fit in with your fairy planet, in the same way you lke to think earthquakes are increasing because of PX when they arent and there is no PX. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
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andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. Quoting: VestanPance... Im packing data into cyclical patterns? Your the one that assumes your fairy planet is on a 3600 year spin cycle. then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Most probably through the Chaotic motions of the liquid metal at the Earths core. if left without outside influences Earth core would be almost placid. it would probably "boil" quietly as on slow fire. why would these Chaotic motions appear? what outside cause? while it may seem that all outside causes result in regular (cyclical) phenomena, it is not entirely true. outside factors, such as rogue asteroids or comets, present an irregular events. |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why do people suppose Earth has a cycle of Magnetic Reversals? or, if we go in further detail, science says reversals occur at irregular intervals, why is that? then why do they happen at all? Quoting: VestanPanceyou see, science is stating a guess as fact. and even more - basing further assumptions on that guess. it is a scientific method - nothing wrong with that, but we have to remember that our guess is ... just a guess. The magnetic Reversals are not cyclical. As I said the last one was 780,000 years ago Here is the list, 780,000 Years ago 900,000 1,060,000 1,190,000 1,780,000 2,000,000 The list goes on, however there have been periods known as Superchrons where the poles dont reverse for upto 40 Million years. "magnetic Reversals are not cyclical" and that is even more strange. if it is not cyclical then it represents a "catastrophic" pattern, irregular. Last Edited by andrew on 03/08/2010 08:15 AM |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 909854 New Zealand 03/08/2010 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909859that's right. I see. Andrew you keep up that routine bro and you could end up looking like your mate, Melfy, with all kinds of skin problems. Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/08/2010 08:18 AM Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last Reversal took place around 780,000 years ago. Estimates based on current field weakening suggest that we are looking at another 2000 years before the field changes again. Quoting: andrew... Im packing data into cyclical patterns? Your the one that assumes your fairy planet is on a 3600 year spin cycle. then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Most probably through the Chaotic motions of the liquid metal at the Earths core. if left without outside influences Earth core would be almost placid. it would probably "boil" quietly as on slow fire. why would these Chaotic motions appear? what outside cause? while it may seem that all outside causes result in regular (cyclical) phenomena, it is not entirely true. outside factors, such as rogue asteroids or comets, present an irregular events. Rogue asteroids and comets has no gravitation effect on the core of the earth whatsoever. The moon does, and the sun to a lesser extent, as does Jupiter. Fairy planets do not. Magnetic reversals are not regular or Cyclical, they are Chaotic, as I have shown you, I could go back a 2 Billion years with the list of reversals, some changed and then changed again within 10,000 years, others didnt change for 40,000,000 years, there is nothing cyclical about it. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? Quoting: The Lone Rangerthat's right. I see. Andrew you keep up that routine bro and you could end up looking like your mate, Melfy, would all kinds of skin problems. washing too much (too often) is damaging to skin and hair. it depletes it of natural fat that protects it, making it more susceptible for fungi and bacteria. use your common sense |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it is not cyclical then it represents a "catastrophic" pattern, irregular. Quoting: andrewNo it represents a Chaotic pattern. I have not seen any catastrophic events linked with magnetic reversal. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | word on the street is that for you it's more like 10 random baths per year ? Quoting: andrewthat's right. I see. Andrew you keep up that routine bro and you could end up looking like your mate, Melfy, would all kinds of skin problems. washing too much (too often) is damaging to skin and hair. it depletes it of natural fat that protects it, making it more susceptible for fungi and bacteria. use your common sense Try using unperfumed soap that has moisturisers in them. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
andrew User ID: 909865 Ukraine 03/08/2010 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rogue asteroids and comets has no gravitation effect on the core of the earth whatsoever. Quoting: VestanPanceThe moon does, and the sun to a lesser extent, as does Jupiter. Fairy planets do not. Magnetic reversals are not regular or Cyclical, they are Chaotic, as I have shown you, I could go back a 2 Billion years with the list of reversals, some changed and then changed again within 10,000 years, others didnt change for 40,000,000 years, there is nothing cyclical about it. space trash falldown is irregular event and it repesents catastrophic pattern. and so do Magnetic reversals - if its irregular (chaotic) then its most likely catastrophic. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 03/08/2010 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Then present some of your "FACTS." These "FACTS" need to be from credible sources...which means sources OTHER than ZetaTalk. Can you do that? Can you also prove that "Planet X" exists? Quoting: andrew[link to www.vimeo.com] I said credible sources...that video does nothing to support your claims about "pole shifts." Welcome to fail. Again. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rogue asteroids and comets has no gravitation effect on the core of the earth whatsoever. Quoting: andrewThe moon does, and the sun to a lesser extent, as does Jupiter. Fairy planets do not. Magnetic reversals are not regular or Cyclical, they are Chaotic, as I have shown you, I could go back a 2 Billion years with the list of reversals, some changed and then changed again within 10,000 years, others didnt change for 40,000,000 years, there is nothing cyclical about it. space trash falldown is irregular event and it repesents catastrophic pattern. and so do Magnetic reversals - if its irregular (chaotic) then its most likely catastrophic. FAIL, as I have stated there are NO catastrophic events linked with Magnetic reversal. Space trash falldown as you put it is completely unrelated, why even mention it? Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
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VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it is not cyclical then it represents a "catastrophic" pattern, irregular. Quoting: andrewNo it represents a Chaotic pattern. I have not seen any catastrophic events linked with magnetic reversal. have you witnessed one ever? Nope have you ever seen PX? Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |
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The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 909854 New Zealand 03/08/2010 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | washing too much (too often) is damaging to skin and hair. it depletes it of natural fat that protects it, making it more susceptible for fungi and bacteria. Quoting: andrewuse your common sense Common sense, Andrew, tells me that you stick to your preferred hygiene routine and I will gladly keep to my normal one young man. Thank goodness the internets are still sniff proof eh!! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 03/08/2010 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "current field weakening" is effect of Nibiru approach. Quoting: andrewAnd yet you can't show produce any tangible and verifiable evidence that this "planet" even exists. what facts show is that field was twice as stronger 2000 years ago, and 3000-4000 years ago it was as weak as it is now. and no wonder, cuz that time was a time of last Passage, the same as now. Quoting: andrewAnd that shows "Planet X" exists how? Hmmm, it doesn't. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 03/08/2010 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Quoting: andrewNo one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
VestanPance User ID: 884100 United Kingdom 03/08/2010 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then, what do you think is the cause for "Magnetic reversals"? Quoting: Circuit BreakerNo one really knows for certain. That's why science works...it is able to admit when something is wrong when new data doesn't support the current theory. Zeta science, on the other hand, makes a claim and then twists all evidence to fit it. Exactly which is why my answer was Most probably through chaotic movement of liquid metal at the earths core, which is the theory most reputable scientist believe. However since Andrew doesnt like reputable science he twists everything to fit his High priestess Nancy's agenda. Cheers. ----------------------------- "Shit, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm going to stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." "The gene pool is stagnant and I am the minister of chlorine" "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" |