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Why isn't this thread pinned? is pinning the Zetatalk thread an abuse of moderator privileges?

Nope. It's the only reason that Nancy is a moderator. It's
the only thing she does AS a moderator. You'd have to ask
Trinity why he did that. I suspect it's because Nancy used
to drive a lot of attention to the site, but not anymore. And
with the focus growing on 2012 she will become even more
irrelevant, if that's possible.

OOOO cheer up!!!!...u are so negative...we can only hope that something will happen to make everyone happy....the doomers, turthers, birthers, zetas lovers....did i forget anyone else????
forive me if i forgot anyone......
peace and thanks for the help doc...

What makes you think I need to cheer up? I enjoy watching
a bunch of arrogant assholes get their comeuppance. This is
all great entertainment to me.

Are you sure you're not even a little bit grumpy? LOL

Not the least bit.

Gee...the first two pages are all subjects from poleshift ning.

Running out of material?

We rented the movie "2012" the other night and I caught the two references to "Wisconsin", one of them being the scene where the woman told her husband that they should move back to Wisconsin. Was that an intentional reference to Nancy? I think so.

We rented the movie "2012" the other night and I caught the two references to "Wisconsin", one of them being the scene where the woman told her husband that they should move back to Wisconsin. Was that an intentional reference to Nancy? I think so.


:pinhead:

There is still a slight chance that a Nemesis could exist,
but that gets smaller and smaller as more sweeps are done
by more instruments. Quite a lot of observatories are looking
at the Oort Cloud and a ways beyond and so far nothing has
shown up.

No matter what it wouldn't be the Planet X or Nibiru that
so many wish it was. An orbit like that would be inherently
unstable and it's effects would be noticed on many of the
planets in our Solar System. I'm sure there are large
planetoids and even possibly another planed way out there
beyond Pluto, but not a Nibiru or a Planet X.

I am not searching for Nibiru or Planet X in the same way the Zeta's are, but I am looking for it.....

There is still a slight chance that a Nemesis could exist,
but that gets smaller and smaller as more sweeps are done
by more instruments. Quite a lot of observatories are looking
at the Oort Cloud and a ways beyond and so far nothing has
shown up.

No matter what it wouldn't be the Planet X or Nibiru that
so many wish it was. An orbit like that would be inherently
unstable and it's effects would be noticed on many of the
planets in our Solar System. I'm sure there are large
planetoids and even possibly another planed way out there
beyond Pluto, but not a Nibiru or a Planet X.

In the movie, the new pole also ends up in "Wisconsin".

MORE than a little co-incidental.

In the movie, the new pole also ends up in "Wisconsin".

MORE than a little co-incidental.

Not at all! This is a battle of UNCERTAINTY! I simply rail against the postured "Certainty" peddled by the debunkers. They act as if they have cornered the market on "knowledge".



Not at all. But there are some things that one can be quite certain of -- at least, as certain as science ever gets about anything.

For example: It is a certainty that Earth is not halted in orbit -- at least as far as evidence is concerned. After all, it is possible that all of reality is merely a holographic projection into your head, Zetamax, and you are merely arguing with yourself. However, since there is no experiment by which we can test that hypothesis, it is irrelevant to science.

What we CAN test, though, is the predictability of the heavens. The heavens continue to behave predictably, and they CERTAINLY could not do this were Earth halted in orbit, as Nancy suggests.

Now, could images be being pumped into our brains, showing everything in place when it is not? Could we ALL just be brains in jars having images of normalcy transmitted to us? Of course. But parsimony suggests such machinations are unnecessary when looking at and explaining the world around us. The traditional observations explain what we observe, predict future events with breathtaking accuracy, and suggest that Zetas, PX, and brains in jars are unnecessary complications to explain what we perceive.

Perhaps new evidence will come to light to change this, and science will change accordingly, as it invariably does. But you have presented no such evidence, ever, in your entire time at GLP. Neither has any PX supporter. Neither has Nancy herself. No ways to falsify the PX idea. No ways to test the idea. Predictions that fail consistently and constantly. Predictions that defy ALL observation. How much negative data is enough to finally accept that the premise is false?

Give the scientific method the credit it is due: After all, it's predictive record of the movements of the heavens puts Nancy's and Zetatalk's to absolute shame, white lies and all.

You, of course, will lack the courage to do this, Zetamax.

You always have.

In the movie, the new pole also ends up in "Wisconsin".

MORE than a little co-incidental.


Ah, Zetamax, ignoring my points, as per usual.

Quite telling.

In the movie, the new pole also ends up in "Wisconsin".

MORE than a little co-incidental.


The only reality for the year "2012" that relates directly to Nancy LIEDer is......

I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.

The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.

Lone Ranger, I know you keep up on current news, so I won't bother to post a link(but will, if you request it).

What is your opinion on Nemesis? I'm curious.....

A new shitty video out by Nancy !


[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Is there a reason she does not use actual footage of herself in her videos ( the bit in the beginning is old from former vids ) ?

Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?

If it traveled at that speed it would show up as a bulge
on the Sun, along with several other effects.

Have we seen this with another star? or what is the theory? Interested in this thought but there is not enough info here to start researching.

Most of the planets that have been discovered around other
stars are due to observing bulges in that star and they are
usually planets with very swift orbits.

They still keep mentioning richter scale measurements for a pole shift in the future. People stopped using the richter scale a while back, its the moment magnitude scale now.

"the media may feature this version of events, and treat NASA in a respectful manner"
quoting ZT

yes, very probable that this will happen this way. and, God, i think many will go along this comedy theater presented by mainstream media. those who put absolute faith in Science and "experts'.

I forgot to mention Cilantro, which is put into salsa and has anti-bacterial qualities, keeping it from spoiling. A those handy weeds! Sheep sorrel is one that grows in the area but I've given it a spot in my garden. A low light plant that will grow in the shade, and very high in vitamin C! Pig weed too and Lambs Quarters, I always allow some plants to go to seed in my garden. Pig weed is very high in vitamin A.


Have I made you anxious to start your own garden and practice? Remember, seed you save yourself cannot be traced via internet purchases. If you can't get non-hybrid corn then collect Indian Corn, which makes an excellent corn meal (though colorful). If you eat squash or carve a pumpkin for Holloween, save that seed for Heaven's sake! Get started! Feel the burn! This may be your last opportunity, your last year, to get into this stuff.

Now thats funny mates ... :


I forgot to mention Cilantro, which is put into salsa and has anti-bacterial qualities, keeping it from spoiling. A those handy weeds! Sheep sorrel is one that grows in the area but I've given it a spot in my garden. A low light plant that will grow in the shade, and very high in vitamin C! Pig weed too and Lambs Quarters, I always allow some plants to go to seed in my garden. Pig weed is very high in vitamin A.


Have I made you anxious to start your own garden and practice? Remember, seed you save yourself cannot be traced via internet purchases. If you can't get non-hybrid corn then collect Indian Corn, which makes an excellent corn meal (though colorful). If you eat squash or carve a pumpkin for Holloween, save that seed for Heaven's sake! Get started! Feel the burn! This may be your last opportunity, your last year, to get into this stuff.


[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Firstly, thank you for answering my posts -- albeit incompletely...


I give the scientific "method" PLENTY of credibility. It's SCIENTISTS that I distrust so much.


Very well. However, I have seen several, if no dozens, of experiments you CAN do yourself that demonstrate Nancy's ideas regarding a halted Earth are wrong, and therefore so is the claim of Zeta 100 percent accuracy. You won't perform one, nor address these glaring departure from reality. That seems like a rejection of the scientific method, to me.



The "scientific method" is infrequently practiced with sincerity and true rigor these days.



Well, you, yourself, won't practice the scientific method. As an example, you have continually refused to do a long exposure photograph of the sky, which could lay to rest Nancy's claim of a wobble in the sky every six hours. Why should anyone practice what you, yourself, will not?

And, when they DO, and show that the sky is moving normally, you refuse to address that, as well. Seems odd, given your claim of being "on the fence," doesn't it?


I don't have the equipment, or the money or time to travel to Hap's. (Beside's, I think he's left for good.)