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ZetaTalk fits several definitions of culthood.

You've got a single 'leader,' from whom all wisdom flows. You've got a quasi-apocalyptic message. You've got the whole us vs. them mentality.

Of course, as cults go, the PXers are relatively mild, and restrict their activities to being rude and stupid on internet discussion boards. I don't think they've had a physical get-together in years and years, simply because there aren't enough of them and the ones left are neither affluent nor inclined to do more than post on the net.

I guess I'd class them as cult-lite.
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Cult wannabe's.
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For you there is only desperation as another great fail gets closer every day.

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 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



RANCIDSOCKYVOLARMAXIMELFYKURT is getting deeper and deeper into his Stage Four Melfdown! Wait till Stage Five, he will be frothing at the mouth like his coworker luser and his mommy ninny LIEDer.

Oh, this will be FUN to watch!!!
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nerofail
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Yeah...you've been saying that and yet the thread is still here.

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Only because you're here.

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Who's this "Melfy" you guys keep referring to?
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Who are these paid shills you keep referring to?
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Indeed, this is the "free speech" they so vociferously defend. Quite telling!
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What's quite telling is that you and Luser both want to squash free speech. Just today, you said you foresee this thread being deleted...and you've called for it more than once.
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ZetaTalk fits several definitions of culthood.

You've got a single 'leader,' from whom all wisdom flows. You've got a quasi-apocalyptic message. You've got the whole us vs. them mentality.

Of course, as cults go, the PXers are relatively mild, and restrict their activities to being rude and stupid on internet discussion boards. I don't think they've had a physical get-together in years and years, simply because there aren't enough of them and the ones left are neither affluent nor inclined to do more than post on the net.

I guess I'd class them as cult-lite.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Not forgetting that pre 2003 they indeed had a full blown cult, however when an end date is set, ie. May 2003 and nothing happens the balloon bursts, some people were arrested for destruction of a forest. There were a number of people who sold everything and ended up on the street, even a suicide or two, the rest either moved on to a new "doom" story or got some sense.

There are always a few who cling so tightly that they believe any excuse, ie. FreeStore.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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For you there is only desperation as another great fail gets closer every day.

toiletgoin



RANCIDSOCKYVOLARMAXIMELFYKURT is getting deeper and deeper into his Stage Four Melfdown! Wait till Stage Five, he will be frothing at the mouth like his coworker luser and his mommy ninny LIEDer.

Oh, this will be FUN to watch!!!
 Quoting: The Commentator

I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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1. The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
2. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
3. Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
4. The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry�or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
5. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar�or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
6. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
7. The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
8. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
9. The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
10. Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
11. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
12. The group is preoccupied with making money.
13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
15. The most loyal members (the "true believers") feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You call it "work" to post mindless images, claim to be a fence sitter and basically contribute nothing to the conversation?
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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.


You call it "work" to post mindless images, claim to be a fence sitter and basically contribute nothing to the conversation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896329

They are not "mindless" images - they are psychological TOOLS used to reach people at a deeper level.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Do tell. What exactly do you think you are doing to "make a difference" other than demonstrating how utterly bankrupt the while idea of zetatalk is?
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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.
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Um, by all means, explain how? As far as I can tell, you pretty much post only here...and so far, you haven't been able to convince anyone of anything.
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They are not "mindless" images - they are psychological TOOLS used to reach people at a deeper level.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

So, you DO work for the CIA...and your posts are all part of some psyop.
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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.


Do tell. What exactly do you think you are doing to "make a difference" other than demonstrating how utterly bankrupt the while idea of zetatalk is?
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In the end, it's all about the SOUL. I am helping seekers to find the truth, to embrace the STO orientation - and turn away from STS temptations.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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In the end, it's all about the SOUL. I am helping seekers to find the truth, to embrace the STO orientation - and turn away from STS temptations.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

And just how are you doing that posting here? Let's see how you spin this one.
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In the end, it's all about the SOUL. I am helping seekers to find the truth, to embrace the STO orientation - and turn away from STS temptations.

And just how are you doing that posting here? Let's see how you spin this one.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


All are seekers - it's just that most are in DEEP denial. Like yourself for instance ...
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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In the end, it's all about the SOUL. I am helping seekers to find the truth, to embrace the STO orientation - and turn away from STS temptations.

And just how are you doing that posting here? Let's see how you spin this one.


All are seekers - it's just that most are in DEEP denial. Like yourself for instance ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


I thought you claimed you were "on the fence"?
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All are seekers - it's just that most are in DEEP denial. Like yourself for instance ...
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And just what am I in denial about? Mmm?
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All are seekers - it's just that most are in DEEP denial. Like yourself for instance ...

And just what am I in denial about? Mmm?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

You are clearly in denial about being in denial.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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All are seekers - it's just that most are in DEEP denial. Like yourself for instance ...

And just what am I in denial about? Mmm?

You are clearly in denial about being in denial.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


...and you're in denial about being fooled into believing a crazy old broad from Wisconsin.

Must suck to realize how many years you've wasted in following her like a love-sick puppy.
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I am PROUD of my work as ***ZetaMax***. I feel I am truly making a DIFFERENCE.


You call it "work" to post mindless images, claim to be a fence sitter and basically contribute nothing to the conversation?

They are not "mindless" images - they are psychological TOOLS used to reach people at a deeper level.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


:Melfy:
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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You are clearly in denial about being in denial.
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Iwony_M
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Who's this "Melfy" you guys keep referring to?

Who are these paid shills you keep referring to?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Now come on, CB, you must admit you just hit yet another home run clear out of the park with that. And off the pitching of Melfy no less!!

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What's quite telling is that you and Luser both want to squash free speech. Just today, you said you foresee this thread being deleted...and you've called for it more than once.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yep I don't quite get the logic of such a "call" by Melfster.

I mean why would, Max, desire to penalize the people of the GLP community from accessing such a popular thread?

Maxy, sure is acting mightily strange of late. Could it be simply that....2012_V....has him very nervous?
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In the end, it's all about the SOUL. I am helping seekers to find the truth, to embrace the STO orientation - and turn away from STS temptations.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Laff The Melfynese is strong with this one!!
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How would you explain scientific reality to a native American shaman?


I'm pretty sure most Native Americans have at least a little
basic science in schools these days. But if you are hypothetically
thinking of a time hundreds of years ago then it would depend
on what was being explained. While ancient cultures would
regard modern science as magic that's only when first exposed.
Given just a little bit of time a basic understanding can be
related. However, Zetatalk claims arrogantly that they are
so far advanced they can't even try, which is just another
bullshit giveaway. If they had tried and failed that would
be one thing, but making claims about repulsion forces without
the least bit of explanation is just magical thinking coming
from one person.
 Quoting: DrPostman

They did try and fail according to Zeta talk . The technology of the ufo was given to them in the crash at Roswell. If we could figure reverse engineer it.

"The plan was to allow ships to crash, ostensibly at the hands of humans."

And any credit to reverse egineering working is clamed to be false.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The rapid pace whereby technology grows by leaps and bounds, exponentially as the years pass, has resulted in speculation that this is due to alien technology secured from crashed ships and reverse engineered by the military and their civilian cohorts in the military industrial complex. This is completely false, and in fact is simply a rumor started by those individuals within the military industrial complex who wish to be elevated in the eyes of the populace and fear losing their jobs and prestige during budget cutbacks. "

As far as repulsion force goes, this seems silly to me to focus on as it can already be seen in nature in magnets, so it has to be at play even in our limited understandings.
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Only because you're here.

room
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



Actually, the above picture is all the zeta believers who are not paid to believe, or have an IQ of over 75. Mighty empty room....

Last Edited by The Commentator on 03/16/2010 01:06 AM
non sufficit Orbis

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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!





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