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Alas, still no answers to my questions and points.

wow what a thread, the last front before entering ZetaLand ? :D :D

cheers ^^

It is that simple. The bunker zetaculties and their "soon" mantra, in regards to Planet X doom, has become absolutely meaningless.

this thread is PURE GARBAGE

Well, he also claimed he would respond to my post, and hasn't said anything about it other than a "be back later" graphic, about four pages ago...



>> why be so one sided in your vocal defense of it?

The debunkers have monopolized the "other" side.



There is no monopoly. There are some views that I agree with other debunkers, and some I do not. I don't, as an example, think the posting of cute pictures helps either side's position.

Likewise, I have FIRM goalposts that, if crossed, would force me to reverse my position and endorse Nancy's views.

There is no monopoly on ideas. And your adoption or rejection of said ideas should have nothing to do with what other people think or do.

If there were no other debunkers about, what would your response be to Nancy? Would you be the 'lone debunker' if no one else posted counter to Nancy's claims? If so, what and how would you post your dissent? What is the Zetamax-Proper-and-Approved-Way of telling Nancy she might be mistaken?


>> Why not point out some of the issues with which you disagree with ZT?

Because I don't have enough "information". Nor I am likely to get anymore than is already available. Your prodding is nothing more than an attempt to get me to pass judgment on the ENTIRETY of ZetaTalk ONLY on the basis of the current information pool. And I say, it is INSUFFICIENT. So I will continue to refrain from drawing "conclusions". Think about that word - it's drawn from CONCLUDE which is the same as FINISH, TERMINAL, OVER, DONE, FINI! A THOUSAND TIMES ***NO*** - I will NOT render a verdict when the closing arguments haven't even started!!!



How is asking you specifically about where you disagree with the Zetatalk idea asking you to conclude the entire thing is wrong? You STATE you doubt practically all of Zetatalk, but won't be SPECIFIC in what you doubt about it? That seems terribly disingenuous of you, ZM.

I am not asking you for a 'final verdict,' whatever that means. I'm not asking you to conclude anything -- after all, you can always change your mind.

You have said, yourself, that you doubt. WHAT do you doubt, and WHY do you doubt it?

Or, perhaps, that was a little fib of yours?


>> Why not propose evidence that can confirm or falsify ZT to you?

Again, what's the point - you all have done it all for me anyway - and repeatedly ad nauseum. My additional "voice" would be inconsequential.



See that little 'to YOU' at the end of the question? Sure, there has been a lot of information and evidence -- some very damning -- regarding the ideas that Nancy has surrounded herself with. You have bent over backwards, sometimes adopting truly bizzare positions, defending Nancy, more fervently that anyone else seems to. Yet, you claim, you doubt. Well, how?

I don't think my asking for honest clarification is out of line, and don't particularly care for your tone -- but that's irrelevant. My questions to you, and YOUR opinion, and YOUR SPECIFIC 'goalposts' and YOUR SPECIFIC DISAGREEMENTS and YOUR SPECIFIC DOUBTS stand.

Were there no other debunkers on GLP regarding Nancy, how would you COMPLETELY spell out your position?

You have said you doubt 'practically all' of Zetatalk. Yet the only thing that can dismiss the idea of, say, a halted Earth, is for 2013 to come?

Is that an accurate assessment of your position? I
certainly hope not.

This wouldn't be possible if Earth were actually halted in orbit:
[link to buzz.yahoo.com]

So now the zetas can not even throw a few rocks?

screen memories

The end is in 2013

Never ever. Even if you paid me to. I am enjoying life here in NZ far too much to take you and your zetaculties even the slightest bit seriously.






Yes "soon" it will come to pass......be patient my wittle alien bitch.......

But according to YOU guys, the "zetacult" is a "correspondence" "cult". No need to leave NZ! After all, Andrew has not left the Ukraine!

There is damning evidence about CB's NASA affiliation - and I will post it RIGHT HERE!!

(Just as soon as I locate it!)

>> Is that an accurate assessment of your position?

yes

this thread is PURE GARBAGE

now, fuck off

Hmmmm There Is A Disturbance In The Force
Posted by Andrew Veresay on April 22, 2010 at 2:11pm

WOW!! Anyone else just get hit with energy?
Thread: Hmmmm There Is A Disturbance In The Force.
Thread: WOW!! Anyone else just get hit with energy?
i felt myself suddenly "energized" yesterday late evening, outside of the normal, no reason

and i didnt even really want to go to sleep, which happens very seldom as im usually exhausted by the end of the day, and i had no dificulty getting up early morning today!

i find it interesting because for months before i felt "fatigued" and i thought it is from working 12 hour working days, and sometimes at night.

i thought it is just something "emotional" or temporary, and that it is just me.

this thread is PURE GARBAGE

now, fuck off




No shit!!

These deflunkers are such a learned lot.

(Luser replying to Hap).......
Really Phoney Astronomer ... YOU are arguing there is no friction in space? You really are a phoney!

There are MANY molecules up there, phoney-boy .... much less densely packed ... but still, MANY. You can figure it out from here, no?

This is just ONE reason NOBODY trusts you, Hap.

Hap doesn't need trust.

He provides evidence.

The fact his astrophotography works at ALL is a testament to the fact that the Earth is moving normally. If the Earth is moving normally, Nancy must be wrong.

Believers can deliver ad hominem after ad hominem about Hap, and pretty much every other scientifically literate person all they like, but it doesn't change this fact, which is based on evidence.

Evidence seems to be the one thing PX believers and apologists routinely, and vehemently, overlook or oppose -- without, mind you, addressing very legitimate questions about ZT's veracity.

If anyone reading this believes I am wrong, please provide EXACTLY what evidence can convince you that the PX idea, as put forward by Nancy, is incorrect. If you are rational about the idea, there must be a way of falsifying the idea to you. If nothing can convince you that PX, as described by Nancy, is false, I can only suggest you, carefully and critically, reexamine your irrational position.

So, Max, may I ask why you, or any of your friends did not respond to this post? Maybe you missed it, so I am reposting....

Hi everyone. I found this on National Geographic, and the article gives a direct link to ZetaTalk.

2012: Six End-of-the-World Myths Debunked
Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic News
November 6, 2009

2012 MYTH 4
Planet X Is on a Collision Course With Earth

Some say it's out there: a mysterious Planet X, aka Nibiru, on a collision course with Earth—or at least a disruptive flyby.

A direct hit would obliterate Earth, it's said. Even a near miss, some fear, could shower Earth with deadly asteroid impacts hurled our way by the planet's gravitational wake.

Could such an unknown planet really be headed our way in 2012, even just a little bit?

Well, no.

"There is no object out there," NASA astrobiologist Morrison said. "That's probably the most straightforward thing to say."

The origins of this theory actually predate widespread interest in 2012. Popularized in part by a woman who claims to receive messages from extraterrestrials, the Nibiru doomsday was originally predicted for 2003.

"If there were a planet or a brown dwarf or whatever that was going to be in the inner solar system three years from now, astronomers would have been studying it for the past decade and it would be visible to the naked eye by now," Morrison said.

"It's not there."

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Just thought I'd share it with all of you. The article is fairly interesting, IMO.

Screen memories are BULLSHIT.

Just like the rest of ZT, and, by the way, the contents of Luser's pointy skull.

Screen memories are BULLSHIT.

Just like the rest of ZT, and, by the way, the contents of Luser's pointy skull.


>> Screen memories are BULLSHIT.

Screen memories are :awesome:

Screen memories are BULLSHIT.

Just like the rest of ZT, and, by the way, the contents of Luser's pointy skull.


>> Screen memories are BULLSHIT.

Screen memories are :awesome:


Max has gotten so desperate that he's now resorting to trolling.

Sorry, Max, your little fantasy is completely destroyed.