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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
Menow
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I think Zeta Max is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Mind telling us WHY you think that?

Because he keeps coming back and challenging the debunkers. Funny too.


Please give us just one example of when Max has EVER "challenged" a debunker. When has he EVER brought forth any evidence to support his boss Nancy that she didn't make up?
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He did, at the beginning of his run, here. He gave up on that long ago in favor of silliness and obvious trolling.
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From tonight's chat thread:


Are you still planning on being a leader and helping others rebuild and organize after the pole shift? Not to be mean but everyone was a lot younger years ago before the great "White Lie". If it doesn’t happen in the next few years I dont know how many people over age 70 will be able to withstand all the trauma of a pole shift.

SOZT
Are you asking if physical strength is the means by which Nancy will be able to contribute to humanity after the pole shift? Are you seriously asking this? Or are you seriously suggesting that a 70 year old woman who has the work pace that Nancy does could not survive an hour in a trench while earthquakes and hurricane force winds roar overhead? We’ll chalk this up to naivete or stupidity on your part.
EOZT




Ummm...this was uncalled for and pretty much put me off as well. This was enough for me to decide that we certainly aren't dealing with any sort of advanced, intelligent beings in this thread. What a bunch of BS.
bsflag


Trouble in Paradise. Add Nancy's nasty attitude to LUser's
ankle biting yapping at anything that moves on that thread
and those two are doing a number on their own thread. If it
wasn't for Menow posting her chat tonight would be dead.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Not to worry... I'm sure I'll be banned as soon as she gets to my posts.
Menow
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From tonight's chat thread:


Lord you're thick, Menow. If you are dancing around the floor with a dead woman in your arms, SHE is not twirling around, you are dragging her around. The Moon is only turning once every 28 day because its face is glued to the Earth. In and of itself, it does not rotate.


Meaningless analogy, Nancy, unless the dead woman was massive and existing in space, as is the Moon. Then she would continue to rotate whether in my arms or not, just like the Moon.

Please feel free to direct idiots to this animated gif:

:Moonspin:


Use this URL: Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 490)
 Quoting: DrPostman


The only one willing to discuss it admitted that I was right, but that *I* was playing on semantics!

According to Nancy, the Moon TURNS, but doesn't ROTATE!

Heh.
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Please feel free to post the following to her chat thread:
I refuse to support it.


Nancy is referring to the fact that you only see one face of the moon and you always will only see one face of the moon. In fact, as the moon rotates around the earth, it does complete one rotation in one lunar month. By mistating the problem and mistating the solution, you have managed to seem confused and or make Nancy seem confused, when in fact you are speaking apples and she is speaking oranges. Got it?

Nope. Read her own words:
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Re: ZetaTalk : on BLOG Radio Schedule May 3

> A quote from elle's link:

> "The 27.3 days it takes the Moon to complete one orbit around the Earth is about the same as the time taken for it to complete one rotation. This synchronous rotation means that it always shows the same face to the Earth."

> i.e. The moon ROTATES on its axis in 27.3 days.

No dork, YOU are attempting to put words in Elle's link. That link does NOT say the Moon rotates, it says it orbits.

The Moon is not turning, which is rotation, is it glued to the Earth, one side of it glued to the Earth and the other side perpetually facing outward from the Earth. This is different than 'rotation'

Definition: rotation: The turning or spinning of a body about an axis running through it.

Thus for the Moon to be rotating, it must be spinning about its OWN axis, not glued to something else and thus changing its position when that something else moves. If you hold a book in front of you, pages to your nose, and turn in a complete circle, the BOOK did not turn in a circle, YOU did.

Duh!
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 Quoting: DrPostman


Nancy apparently thinks that means that a body can't have any other motion at the same time or it's not rotating... of course, that would define Earth as not rotating too...

Heh.
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Here is the somewhat "hard to find" audio of Nancy Lieder admitting on radio that she has killed her pet dog, and advocates that others do the same vis-à-vis "earth changes."

[link to rapidshare.com]
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From tonight's chat thread:


Are you still planning on being a leader and helping others rebuild and organize after the pole shift? Not to be mean but everyone was a lot younger years ago before the great "White Lie". If it doesn’t happen in the next few years I dont know how many people over age 70 will be able to withstand all the trauma of a pole shift.

SOZT
Are you asking if physical strength is the means by which Nancy will be able to contribute to humanity after the pole shift? Are you seriously asking this? Or are you seriously suggesting that a 70 year old woman who has the work pace that Nancy does could not survive an hour in a trench while earthquakes and hurricane force winds roar overhead? We’ll chalk this up to naivete or stupidity on your part.
EOZT




Ummm...this was uncalled for and pretty much put me off as well. This was enough for me to decide that we certainly aren't dealing with any sort of advanced, intelligent beings in this thread. What a bunch of BS.
bsflag


Trouble in Paradise. Add Nancy's nasty attitude to LUser's
ankle biting yapping at anything that moves on that thread
and those two are doing a number on their own thread. If it
wasn't for Menow posting her chat tonight would be dead.
 Quoting: DrPostman


She's getting cranky on the ning also.

"You are WRONG. Be man enough to admit it. For every instance where you can find SOME activity on the Sun during (your need to take a morning dump or whatever) there is zillions of instances where NO such activity happened during a sunspot appearance, or a CME appearance. I'm not going to spend my day refuting your every theory!"



"Give it up! If I find a cockroach on your shoe when you have to suddenly rush to the bathroom for your morning dump, did the cockroach cause this? Here's a historical CME from 2003, when NASA was hyping the activity of the Sun, hoping naive people would associate Earth changes with the Sun in the future.."
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From tonight's chat thread:


Are you still planning on being a leader and helping others rebuild and organize after the pole shift? Not to be mean but everyone was a lot younger years ago before the great "White Lie". If it doesn’t happen in the next few years I dont know how many people over age 70 will be able to withstand all the trauma of a pole shift.

SOZT
Are you asking if physical strength is the means by which Nancy will be able to contribute to humanity after the pole shift? Are you seriously asking this? Or are you seriously suggesting that a 70 year old woman who has the work pace that Nancy does could not survive an hour in a trench while earthquakes and hurricane force winds roar overhead? We’ll chalk this up to naivete or stupidity on your part.
EOZT




Ummm...this was uncalled for and pretty much put me off as well. This was enough for me to decide that we certainly aren't dealing with any sort of advanced, intelligent beings in this thread. What a bunch of BS.
bsflag


Trouble in Paradise. Add Nancy's nasty attitude to LUser's
ankle biting yapping at anything that moves on that thread
and those two are doing a number on their own thread. If it
wasn't for Menow posting her chat tonight would be dead.


She's getting cranky on the ning also.

"You are WRONG. Be man enough to admit it. For every instance where you can find SOME activity on the Sun during (your need to take a morning dump or whatever) there is zillions of instances where NO such activity happened during a sunspot appearance, or a CME appearance. I'm not going to spend my day refuting your every theory!"



"Give it up! If I find a cockroach on your shoe when you have to suddenly rush to the bathroom for your morning dump, did the cockroach cause this? Here's a historical CME from 2003, when NASA was hyping the activity of the Sun, hoping naive people would associate Earth changes with the Sun in the future.."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896329



Isn't that sweet? She is clearly thinking about luser every time she takes a morning dump...
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
Menow
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And here is a link to the actual site "elle" was using to support Nancy. Problem is, it DOES say that the Moon rotates, just like the posted Nancy called a "dork" said.

[link to www.nmm.ac.uk]

The 27.3 days it takes the Moon to complete one orbit around the Earth is about the same as the time taken for it to complete one rotation. This synchronous rotation means that it always shows the same face to the Earth.

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy.... don't you know the internet knows where all your bodies are buried?
Menow
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So now she claims that the Moon turns, but in the past she
denied the Moon did.

Quite a conundrum for her followers to make excuses for.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Why, gasp... you're right!

Quote Nancy today:

"The Moon is only turning once every 28 day ..."


Quote Nancy before:

"The Moon is not turning..."


Hmm....WTF??
Menow
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The "ning" is kook central:


Reply by Alex Cortes 1 day ago

Last month was a little strange here in Chicago, the sun was setting in the Southwest, and being someone who has lived their entire life just about in Chicago, I know for a fact that its off by about 30-40 degrees. But like everything else in Chicago, you wait three or four days and things change. The pattern has been present for at least a year.


They are involved in a clueless kook circle-jerk.
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She's getting cranky on the ning also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896329

Indeed ... just look at some of her recent comments:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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The "ning" is kook central:


Reply by Alex Cortes 1 day ago

Last month was a little strange here in Chicago, the sun was setting in the Southwest, and being someone who has lived their entire life just about in Chicago, I know for a fact that its off by about 30-40 degrees. But like everything else in Chicago, you wait three or four days and things change. The pattern has been present for at least a year.


They are involved in a clueless kook circle-jerk.
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The "ning" is kook central:


Reply by Alex Cortes 1 day ago

Last month was a little strange here in Chicago, the sun was setting in the Southwest, and being someone who has lived their entire life just about in Chicago, I know for a fact that its off by about 30-40 degrees. But like everything else in Chicago, you wait three or four days and things change. The pattern has been present for at least a year.


They are involved in a clueless kook circle-jerk.


ohyeah
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


As documented here:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

The site that Cheryl Nelson said shall remain nameless on the ning.
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STILL ZM doesn't address me.

Ah, well.
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One huge lesson I learned when I got clean off of drugs is
that the lies I told would always catch up with me, and that
there was no way to keep up with them. And now we see that
happening with Zetatalk. You can't keep telling lies and be
able to keep up with all of them. The truth is so much easier
but no, not for her. I doubt this exposure of her claims about
the Moon will at least make anyone who supports her have a
pause. We know that the trolls who play the fake support game
won't. Nothing will change that because it's the very challenge
of supporting the lie that drives them.
 Quoting: DrPostman


She gets people thinking about the "possibility" of a "pole shift" - which forgives everything else.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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STILL ZM doesn't address me.

Ah, well.
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Good Morning.

There you go!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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She gets people thinking about the "possibility" of a "pole shift" - which forgives everything else.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

So all the lies are allowed? How can you tell which is which then?
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STILL ZM doesn't address me.

Ah, well.


Good Morning.

There you go!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

Yet another non-answer.

Why is it you cannot answer a straight question?
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As documented here:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

The site that Cheryl Nelson said shall remain nameless on the ning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896329

Good job, whoever makes that website.
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Good Morning.

There you go!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


And a Good Morning (or day) to you as well.

Will this be a day you might directly answer my points? Please? I will repost them if you have forgotten or do not wish to scroll back.
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No shit!!

These deflunkers are such a learned lot.
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Yes...we know a lot more than you do. But then that's obvious.
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Zetatalk has never been successfully debunked. If it had been, I wouldn't be a FENCE SITTER!!
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LOL!! That's so funny. Are you serious? Then you really are a moron.
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Screen memories are awesome
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Screen memories are just a figment of your imagination.

need
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Another whole day spent here, eh, Returner?

You must be such a successful little man! And real proud of yourself.
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Funny how you can't seem to stay away. What's the matter? Not much activity going on in Nancy's thread so she ordered you to come over here and join Max? You must be real proud of yourself...being such a cheap sell out and all.
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My fans have a different opinion!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


And what fans are those? Luser and Free Store? We already know they lack any intelligence so I'd say you aren't off to a very good start.
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AND WINNING!!!!

dwagain
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***

wanted
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So now she claims that the Moon turns, but in the past she
denied the Moon did.

Quite a conundrum for her followers to make excuses for.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Got that one:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
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[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

The site that Cheryl Nelson said shall remain nameless on the ning.

How about a page showing the two posts on the Moon, the old
one where she claims that the Moon doesn't turn and the more
recent one where she claims that it does?
 Quoting: DrPostman


Done:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Screenshots of her posts as added documentation.
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Done:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Screenshots of her posts as added documentation.
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Well done bro, well done ! Keep up the good work.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896329

And to think that Max claimed no one has proven ZetaTalk to be false. Shit, just observing the movement of the constellations and the planets proves that the Earth isn't "halted in orbit." For Max to think or claim otherwise is absurd.
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