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Andrew, at least you aren't talking about your masturbation preferences again.

But I guess you save the juicy stuff for the retards at the ning...
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Andrew, just to be clear on what you think: Do you think Nancy is correct in her assertion that the Earth has been halted in its orbit for the last few years, as per Nancy?
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What a bunch of a**holes!

Now i have no doubt that you're doing this on purpose, and most probably really are paid shills.

go on, earn your paycheck!
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Andrew, just to be clear on what you think: Do you think Nancy is correct in her assertion that the Earth has been halted in its orbit for the last few years, as per Nancy?
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yes
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Andrew, just to be clear on what you think: Do you think Nancy is correct in her assertion that the Earth has been halted in its orbit for the last few years, as per Nancy?


yes
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Wow. This is the first time I remember any of them actually admit to believing this. Now let's watch has he goes through major contortions and 'twists' to explain WHY he believes that how he avoids all the evidence that so such thing has happened! Hint: it will involve belief in a MASSIVE conspiracy to cover up the thuth.
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Andrew, just to be clear on what you think: Do you think Nancy is correct in her assertion that the Earth has been halted in its orbit for the last few years, as per Nancy?


yes


Wow. This is the first time I remember any of them actually admit to believing this. Now let's watch has he goes through major contortions and 'twists' to explain WHY he believes that how he avoids all the evidence that so such thing has happened! Hint: it will involve belief in a MASSIVE conspiracy to cover up the thuth.
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it is said clearly enough and not once - benign aliens are simulating normalcy.

but it will not last very much longer. just wait.
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The 'halted Earth' bit simply isn't possible. Too many easily observable effects would occur if the Earth were halted, and they don't.

For instance, Mars wouldn't display any retrograde motion. It does.

The starscape wouldn't change as the year progressed. It does.

So the Earth simply isn't halted.

And all of Andrew's soiled Ukranian bedsheets can't fix those two little problems with his pet theory.
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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.
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Andrew, just to be clear on what you think: Do you think Nancy is correct in her assertion that the Earth has been halted in its orbit for the last few years, as per Nancy?


yes


Wow. This is the first time I remember any of them actually admit to believing this. Now let's watch has he goes through major contortions and 'twists' to explain WHY he believes that how he avoids all the evidence that so such thing has happened! Hint: it will involve belief in a MASSIVE conspiracy to cover up the thuth.


it is said clearly enough and not once - benign aliens are simulating normalcy.

but it will not last very much longer. just wait.
 Quoting: andrew


Yes, but HOW are they alleged to be doing that? By 'tilting' the Earth and raising and lowering it in space. It is easy to tell that isn't really happening, because, well, we can SEE THE SKY, Andrew!
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Andrew... "Zetas" have always said: "Look for yourselves", right? Well, how can you do that if they are FAKING the appearance of what you are looking at?

The mind boggles at the contradictions which must be overlooked in order to believe Zetatalk.
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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.
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No! YOU try to prove that its not benign aliens!


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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.


No! YOU try to prove that its not benign aliens!


bushfing
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Doing what? Everything in the sky appears exactly as it should. Are you saying they are faking EVERYTHING WE SEE?
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You miss my point entirely, Andrew-who-touches-himself-and-brags-about-it-on-the-net.

My point is that my leprechaun theory and your nonsensical babble about 'Zetas' are EQUALLY VALID.

The only difference is that I understand both are bullshit.

You're too stupid to arrive at that realization.
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Well... I shoulda known... Andrew invoked the explaination that it is, basically, MAGIC, and runs away. How childish.
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BTW, a new image from last weekend...

[link to www.machunter.org]

Hope you like it.

Hap
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That is lovely and amazing.

I have a question- is that an optical image? Like, without filters and processing or whatever- is that it, bare-bones? Like, what we'd see if we floated right up to it?
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NO MAX IN MAY!!!!!




If that is what you really think will work best, then by all means, do what you think is right.


Thank you. I know the believers think that we debunkers all walk in lock step, but strangely I find the debunkers far more liberated in their thinking and acceptance than the believers. Which, now that I think on it, is quite fascinating.

Anyhow, for the time being I will refrain from responding to ZM, again, particularly as he will not even attempt to directly address, much less answer, my polite questions and points. Perhaps, if he would change his tune, and would, seriously and completely, address my points, I might change my mind. That, again, seems to be a gift of the debunker position, rather than a curse: the flexibility to change one's opinion in the light of evidence.
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Well said.
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IF such a planet was actually inbound, it would be worldwide news within a day.

That is the singularly most **STUPID** thing I have read on this thread since its inception. Congratulations, your naivete has surpassed that of new born - PUPPY that is!!!

Why WOULDN'T it be news in a day?

Because the news organizations of the world are in a symbiotic relationship with the intelligence organizations. If it doesn't end up on the API newswire, it doesn't get widely disseminated. The newswires act as censorship hubs, through which only "acceptable" news passes - such as Sandra Bullock's problems with her hubby. Believe me, PX would be SUPPRESSED.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Zetamax it has nothing to do with the "mainstream" media.

Fuck the mainstream media.

This is the internet
. The same internet which you are using to communicate your ideas/beliefs is the same one the amateur astronomers would use to BROADCAST THEIR INFORMATION-IF your "Planet X" was real.

Wikileaks. Youtube. Facebook. Myspace. For starters. Then there are the countless blogs and forums for astronomers/amateur astronomers.

We're living in the information age. What makes you think you're so special?

You think you're in possession of fancy, special information about Planet X that the "sheeple" aren't privy to. Zetamax- WHAT is the medium you use to broadcast your feelings/thoughts about Planet X?

I see years and years worth of posts from you on the subject.

I see Nancy's site has been around for years and years.

Your paranoid and ignorant claim about the media "being one" with the intelligence agencies demands a couple explanations.

How come the web is crawling with Planet-X believers from all around the world...? WHY haven't your "TPTB" not stopped all that info...?

Beause they can't. I mean, it's bullshit information. But they can't stop it if they wanted to. the internet changes everything.

The reason you "Planet X"-believers are ridiculed as crackpots is because your standards are so low you'll put your weight behind a theory/idea which has ABSOLUTELY NO SOLID/SUBSTANTIAL PROOF for it's existence.

But...if there was proof...WHY wouldn't that info be just as quickly onto the web as, say, the info PRESENTLY Nancy's site...?

THE ANSWER TO THAT IS- IT WOULD BE. The amateurs (and I'm sure the professionals) would be running around in place pullling their hair out of their heads and there would be nothing the CIA- or anyone- could do about it.

Your "the media and the CIA are one"-claim is devestated by your and Nancy's and Yowusa's ect. existence on the web right now. Unfortunately.
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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.


No! YOU try to prove that its not benign aliens!


bushfing
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YOU claim it is aliens, YOU get to provide the compelling evidence it is aliens.

Sorry, kid, that is the way it works in the real world.

Sorry your fantasy world came crashing down on you.

NO MAX IN MAY!!!

NO luser IN MAY!!!!

Oh yes, wankdrew, you are about to get boycotted too, because of your extreme stupidity.


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non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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excited The glorious debunker chat thread a GLP Top 9 Most Popular Thread is now a permanent pinned thread feature in my GLP world. Got to love this one, Trin.

lol4me And I suspect for 99% of my regular fellow GLPers that the nightmare of seeing Ms LIEDer's crapola pinned on Page One will be a thing of the past.

nanu_nanu.....Zetababble your reign of falsehoods and terror on the front page of GLP is essentially OVER!!

lol4me Ms LIEDer and her few "sucker" followers can indulge with their billshit in their own wittle corner of GLP while the rest of us can enjoy a new and improved GLP reality experience!!

awesome....Trinity!!
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What a bunch of a**holes!

Now i have no doubt that you're doing this on purpose, and most probably really are paid shills.

go on, earn your paycheck!
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lol4me With Nancy LIEDer unpinned and without an element of doubt unhinged on a Saturday night in my GLP experience Loneranger will just personally pin every other damn thread to my page one experience so that I can just sit there and LMAO!!
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This new pin feature is going to put a hurt on her Saturday
night chat.
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_absurd

Folks have to pro-actively open her thread and unpin it. Furthermore, this feature is ONLY available to members. Nancy's Saturday chats are aimed principally at NEWCOMERS, **NON**-MEMBERS who need to be informed.

Wow Posthole, this is probably your biggest FAIL in quite some time!!

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1-both a panet and Jupiter's moon is a solid body, which doesnt emit its own light = essentially the same. Moons technically are "planets". And nothing to say about Pluto - it orbits around the Sun and is large enough. Or do you not consider Pluto a planet after NASA told us not to?
[and what the difference does it make how do we call that cellestial body, if we know what we are referring to?]



NASA had NOTHING to do with the redefinition of Pluto, you twit. It was the IAU, a quite different body.

But you really don't have much use for facts, do you wankdrew?
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Ha! Dammit! You beat me to it (I'm pages behind in this thread, working my way up as I find time...)

This one is my absolute FAVORITE recurring-"Planet X"-follower fuck-up. It's a window into their ignorant, uneducated NASA-fetishizing. Comes up again and again.

As if NASA controls/harbors all knowledge about astronomy and people like Messier and Kepler were never born. I love it. It's a good thing for the legitimate fence-sitters to read before they go endorsing a fucked up, backwards UFO-cult.

(I wish I could've seen his eyes glaze over while trying to decipher what IAU stands for....and why the letters are diferent than N-A-S-A....

(ps IAU= International Astronomical Union- it's a worldwide society of astronomers, in case no one's brought it up yet)
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anyway, there is no solid interior inside Earth as opposed to Europa

You do persist in digging your hole deeper. The Inner Core
is denser than any material on the crust!
[link to www.nature.com]
[link to www.berkeley.edu]

Anyway?


Earth only has a solid inner core, which is surrounded by molten mantle, so could be said that the interior of Earth is fluid - molten rock.

it reminds me of cherry - thin outer skin, soft "meat" inside and hard bone in the middle of it.

Make up your mind Andrew. YOU claimed that there was nothing
solid deep in the Earth, and here you claim there is.

What the hell is wrong with you? You directly contradict
yourself on The Same Damned Page!


there is nothing more to talk about with automatically twisting virus sequence.

hf
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That was pathetic.

What was the point of posting all those "fun facts" about Europa, by the way? Trying to make yourself look intelligent? Because....you can cut-and-paste off of Wikipedia...?

I don't think Dr. Postman's going to contradict any of it...so why bring it up? It was a waste of GLP real estate wich I scrolled right through (I've read a book or 2- I'm already familiar with Europa.)
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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.


No! YOU try to prove that its not benign aliens!


bushfing
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Andrew, the simple FACT is that the earth is orbiting the sun normally. There is simply NO POSSIBLE PHYSICAL way that normalcy could be "faked". But if you want to believe in that fairy tale, you may as well believe in anything. Evidence apparently has no place in your fantasy world. The other excuse is that you are simply too stupid to even understand the mechanisms at play here. My guess is the later.
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This new pin feature is going to put a hurt on her Saturday
night chat.


:_absurd:

Folks have to pro-actively open her thread and unpin it. Furthermore, this feature is ONLY available to members. Nancy's Saturday chats are aimed principally at NEWCOMERS, **NON**-MEMBERS who need to be informed.

Wow Posthole, this is probably your biggest FAIL in quite some time!!

:atomic_fai:
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+ 1
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BTW, a new image from last weekend...

[link to www.machunter.org]

Hope you like it.

Hap

That is lovely and amazing.

I have a question- is that an optical image? Like, without filters and processing or whatever- is that it, bare-bones? Like, what we'd see if we floated right up to it?
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ALL astronomical pictures are processed by their very nature. My images are hours of exposure, which generally means that many shorter images are aligned and stacked using one of several mathematical algorithms to process the data from each frame. My recent color images are from a monochrome CCD camera shot through a color filter wheel, shooting a number of images of each color and then combining them into a LRGB (Luminance - Red/Green/Blue) composite. The color is calibrated against known class G2V stars that have the same color spectrum as our sun, so the colors are correct.

But the question about what galaxies would look like if you flew to one is an interesting one...we are living INSIDE of the Milky Way galaxy and can detect it only as a thin, dim path of light across the night sky. The combined light of 400 billion suns is scattered and dim, even from within, because of the distance and intervening dust clouds. Our eyes only have an aperture of about an eighth of an inch so seeing dim objects in real time is nearly impossible. It takes the light gathering power of large telescopic apertures plus the ability of film or CCD's to capture and store photons over long periods of time to build the un-seeable into something gorgeous. This is what interests me so about astronomical photography.

Here is an image of the galaxy NGC4725 I shot last night. 350 minutes total exposure.

[link to www.machunter.org]
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"...benign aliens are simulating normalcy."

LOL! That's stupid even by Zetard standards.

I sayt it isn't benign aliens, but Irish leprechauns.

Prove me wrong, Andrew, you sticky-fingered, foul smelling little commie.


No! YOU try to prove that its not benign aliens!


bushfing
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Andrew, you're showing your ignorance again. In logical argument, it is ALWAYS the obligation of the one making the extraordinary cliam to provide evidence for that claim...never for the other party to prove absurd claims wrong.

Until you can come up with hard evidence for your claim, don't be surprised to be called down when you claim bullshit.
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That's the thing though, he does want to believe it. They all do- whatever the cost.

It's kind of fascinating. I can honestly say I've never interacted before with a real-live person actually mired in UFO-cult-programming before. Only seen them on tv and wasn't sure if they were real.

Well, they're real. And it's kind of sad in many ways also. Witness Andrew's truly nonsensical posts about Europa.

In the "hard-things-to-grasp"-list of astronomy-topics, Europa really shouldn't be high. I mean, maybe when you read about something like the tidal forces (pay attention, Andrew) at play between it and Jupiter things get a little tricky, but all in all Europa is one of the flat-out coolest, most interesting things in near-sky.

But in the hands of a pseudo-science-proponent what once was interesting becomes incoherent. And it's all in pursuit of a single purpose- the desperate preservation of the jittery house-of-cards that is his belief-system. Again, it's kind of sad.

(or the link a page or 2 back which goes to a series of diagrams Andrew created detailing the "path" of "Planet X" in relation to Earth...it's mind-boggling. I can only imagine the belly-laughs an ACTUAL astronomer who went to school for YEARS and has a DOCTORATE would enjoy if they were to take a gander at it....)
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That is lovely and amazing.

I have a question- is that an optical image? Like, without filters and processing or whatever- is that it, bare-bones? Like, what we'd see if we floated right up to it?


ALL astronomical pictures are processed by their very nature. My images are hours of exposure, which generally means that many shorter images are aligned and stacked using one of several mathematical algorithms to process the data from each frame. My recent color images are from a monochrome CCD camera shot through a color filter wheel, shooting a number of images of each color and then combining them into a LRGB (Luminance - Red/Green/Blue) composite. The color is calibrated against known class G2V stars that have the same color spectrum as our sun, so the colors are correct.

But the question about what galaxies would look like if you flew to one is an interesting one...we are living INSIDE of the Milky Way galaxy and can detect it only as a thin, dim path of light across the night sky. The combined light of 400 billion suns is scattered and dim, even from within, because of the distance and intervening dust clouds. Our eyes only have an aperture of about an eighth of an inch so seeing dim objects in real time is nearly impossible. It takes the light gathering power of large telescopic apertures plus the ability of film or CCD's to capture and store photons over long periods of time to build the un-seeable into something gorgeous. This is what interests me so about astronomical photography.

Here is an image of the galaxy NGC4725 I shot last night. 350 minutes total exposure.

[link to www.machunter.org]
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Wow, that's an amazing image of the galaxy. Have you ever sent your pictures into, say, Astronomy magazine? They have a section in the back pages of every issue for images from "amateur" astronomers and yours are just as good if not better than most of what I see there....

Thanks for the explanation, too. I know my "fair share" about "space stuff" but I learn most of it from books, magazines and Wikipedia. :) Ironically I don't get to actually see the "heavens" too much as I live in a rather hopelessly light-polluted big-city. So observation and astroimaging are the parts of astronomy I know the least about.

Interesting. Thanks again.





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