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Clare is a Moon Hoax Moron!

I suspected it already, given her profound inability to grasp even the simplest technical concepts and her apparent gullibility concerning the Zetard nonsense.

But now she's confirmed it, which allows me to revise my estimate of her intelligence to lie somewhere between that of ferns and gravel (washed, small).

We should introduce her to Punisher.

On second thought, no. Let's not do that, EVER.

Menow, how the Hell do you maintain any semblance of rationality with this 'woman?'

If that's the case, then it reinforces my thoughts on how technically illiterate she is. I have participated in many moon hoax "debates" and invariably those who think it was a hoax are completely uneducated in the physics and engineering involved.

Dr. Postman, Cruithne is actually an observation coracle *piloted* remotely by the Zetas via a pair of carefully-balanced Snickers bars.

Thus it is immune to the steady stream and flow of highly-charged yet neutral magnetrons that barrage Earth from PX's southernmost orifice (i.e., the 'Brown Pole').

You'll laugh off the above without carefully examing ALL the evidence, including that from the Vatican and the airbrushed United Federation of Planets photos which were removed from the web before they were posted, in line with your picayune, hydrophobic belief system and your lifelong indoctrination in the Tao of Pooh, now don't be nasty, as we have all seen that you are confused by my nomenclature and (ha!) I have a movie to go and see, I would ask Menow but he is a dirigible.

You are distinguishing a body which is tidally locked from one which is not, but you are insisting the difference is more than that.



You used the wrong terms, REPEATEDLY, in spite of MULTIPLE, polite corrections. That made it impossible to discuss and distinguish the very items at the center of the discussion.



You also ignored my responses to this particular item. Am I now supposed to begin repeating it until you pay attention?



You are welcome to wallow in that minutia if you like. You're good at that. We have followed the PX story for much longer than you. It's pure bullshit, lies and hoax darlin'.



If you care to present evidence that some large planet is careening around in the inner Solar System, go right ahead. You might get some takers - maybe even me. If you want to claim that some PX COULD exist somewhere, sometime, in the last place in the universe we have yet to look, you can go pound sand.



Fuck you.



I find YOU repungnant and impossible, yet I have been willing to test YOU, hmm?



Go fuck thyself, dear.



See above, referring to self-fuckage.



75% of your statements were incomprehensible. Period.



Refer up the page to where you are invited to copulate with yourself.



Name ONE person who will say that the majority of your offerings made any sense. Don't you READ what people have been saying about you???????????????????????????



Problem is, when your meaning is clear, it is seen to be utter nonsense, dear.



He was mocking you dear. You deserved it. You are NOT a stroke victim, deserving of patience.



I wasn't saying I needed an 'excuse' for my actions. Nancy and her PX story are damnable lies. That should be enough reason to speak out against it.



You called people more than that, and for simply repeating a thought experiment you had ignored the previous 5 times.
You expect people not to react to that sort of behaviour?



YOU are mincing words and punctuation after spending 10 pages IGNORING multiple, repeated corrections about TWO SIMPLE WORDS which mean TWO SEPARATE PHYSCAL EVENTS?

Let's see... what should you do with yourself... it starts with an "f".



The sun 'seeing' the Moon turn on its axis has NOTHING to to with the fact that the Moon orbits Earth. NOTHING!




The Sun 'seeing' the Moon turn on its axis has NOTHING to to with the fact that the Moon orbits Earth. NOTHING!

This, again, is something which has been repeated to you about 100 times by now, yet you persist in ignoring it.

I see you are going to ignore my point.

Sigh. Why bother?



There is no such thing as "in diurnal motion around the Earth RELATIVE TO EARTH, its orbital centre axis", so your answer is meaningless.

(snip repetition of related blather based on the same meaningless 'concept')



There is no such thing as "revolve diurnally relative to the Earth", therefor you statement is meaningless.

Of course I'm not talking of the Moon orbitig the Sun, since I spoke of ONE diurnal turn during its orbit! That relates to the Moon's orbit of EARTH, you insufferable loon!

(snip rest of blather based on your above false premise)

Only in YOUR 'understanding level'. To everyone else, it is meaningless.



You clearly don't understand the definition of 'diurnal motion', and are making on up.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Diurnal motion, the apparent motion of stars around the Earth

The very BASIS of your argument is erroneous use of terms. without that, you would have been rendered mute pages ago.



No, you simply have no idea what you are talking about. Period.

It won't matter, since nobody will do that experiment. If they do, it will be done sloppily enough so that they can still believe Nancy is right.

delusion:

A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everyone else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person's culture or subculture (e.g., it is not an article of religious faith). When a false belief involves a value judgment, it is regarded as a delusion only when the judgment is so extreme as to defy credibility. Delusional conviction occurs on a continuum and can sometimes be inferred from an individual's behavior. It is often difficult to distinguish between a delusion and an overvalued idea (in which case the individual has an unreasonable belief or idea but does not hold it as firmly as is the case with a delusion). Delusions are subdivided according to their content. Some of the more common types are: bizarre; delusional jealousy; grandiose; delusion of reference; persecutory; somatic; thought broadcasting; thought insertion.

Excuse my asking . . . in all the discussion regarding rotation, etc. if it was mentioned I missed it . . . what is the theory to explain why our moon's rotation exactly matches the duration of the revolution around the earth. Does this one face shown to the earth by our moon exist anywhere in the solar system, etc? Thanks!

From the Ning.

Reply by Chris Thomas Wakefield 11 hours ago
Oh yeah, I really feel it. This period of time is so extra hard, for me anyway, because it's the time when the banks are stable, food, equipment, seed tools are all readily available and yet we are only a year out from the poleshift: prime time to ready oneself. Yet, I can't, I cannot do it at this time. I'm assured that everything will be ok by my oversoul, but this just isn't enough. My dear friends, just won't hear the story about the poleshift. My kids still act like I'm a little nuts or deluded, I don't know which. So it feels like a pressure cooker, between a poleshift and plenty.
Chris Thomas.

These people have disrupted their children's lives behind this crap.

From the Ning.

Reply by The Shadow 11 minutes ago
I put a lot of stock in all the predictions for significant events that were expected for this spring. In a sense, I sort of put my life on hold and held my breath. Sometimes you don't realize how tense you are until you relax for a moment and notice how stiff you've been holding yourself. That's how I feel right now.

That is a rather disturbing thought . . . has any planet accomplished this feat . . . Mercury or others?

Yes, it's called "tidal locking" and is extremely common. In fact, most other moons in the solar system exhibit the same behavior. It naturally happens over time when a less massive body is in orbit around a more massive body. The tidal forces induced in the less massive body tend to synchronize its rotation over time to match it's orbital period.

Mercury is locked into a 3:2 resonance with the sun. And the Earth and Venus are in a complex 13:8 tidal lock with each other.

I'd rather not even know what's going on over there. It's depressing that there exist people so completely ignorant and divorced from reality that they will ruin the lives of their kids over some kook cult.

Wow, any idea on the time needed for this sync to happen? Is it affected by proximity to the larger body, angular momentum, etc.?

Last Edited by George B on 05/26/2010 01:02 PM

The mathematics of the time scale are at

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

While I don't disagree with what you said . . . there are many, many more sources of information regarding the "pending doom" . . . just watch the History and Discovery Channels almost any night of the week. It has become a feeding frenzy of the biggest and most disturbing doom possible.

I have said, for a long time now, that this whole thing is an organized movement. Oranized on what level, I don't really know, but this PX(and other various doom) thing has been artificially pushed, IMO.

On the documentaries on asteroid collisions, yes, they are a part of earth's history and will no doubt happen again. The question isn't IF, but WHEN.

As for the docs on the various 2012 doomsday ideas, haven't you watched them all the way through when they show towards the end that there is no evidence to support any of it?

Here is a good article on the 2012 foolishness.

[link to www.slate.com]

Here's another showing that there is absolutly nothing astronomically signficant about the year 2012.

[link to www.dartmouth.edu]

That is my point exactly. There is an agenda and it is not just to make money and get viewers.

I have watched most of them and to the end. I have researched many of the sources for the information independently and have come to the conclusion that for each position there is a counter position. It rests with the observer. What is the preponderance of the evidence. Do you trust the sources, what does your heart and head tell you. My only conclusion is that there are agendas being played out. That is all I will conclude at this time. I also will conclude that many people are confused and yes many frightened especially younger people.

That is the bit that bothers me most. For me, it serves as the greatest incentive to get the real facts out there and help people understand them.

The two references I linked above will tell you a lot. Now, if you have some "evidence" that you think is worthy of discussion, please bring it forth along with your references for it.

Every generation has faced great challenges, every generation felt that their generation could be the last. When I was just a child I thought the Atomic Bomb was the end of the world. It didn't happen. I thought the Communist would take over the world . .. it didn't happen. Now we are being bombarded with many different sources of Doom from Hollywood to the internet, to the TV. The difference now is that the economy is in the tank, education is failing, the family is under attack from many sources, and the religious institutions are failing. No one trusts the government at any level and Corporations are seen as the bane of society. I can't blame someone for thinking the end is just over the next hill. The thing is if one feels this way one should shield the children . . . that is proper parenting.

EVERY generation has had its challenges. Can you name one in the last several centuries that hasn't? You have to get things in perspective. If you have shortsightedness and don't know history, then sure...you might be panicing. Just like those who think that earthquakes have increased, etc. They simply do not look at the historic record. That's exactly what Zetatalk breeds on...ignorance of science and history.