Link, quote or stfu. Nancy says LOTS of silly, contradictory things. It really adds up to no coherent
Bottome line: Both you and Nancy believe that the Moon is being DRAGGED around in rotation by the Earth.
THAT is why I was asking you about angular momentum. You danced all around the issue, as you do with everything.
You don't need to understand angular momentum to point out relative vectors.
You were wrong and misunderstood the point,
Quoting: mclarek 981736Nancy's claim is that the Moon DOES NOT ROTATE on its own axis. What do I allegedly not understand about that?
just as Nancy misunderstood the larger view.
Quoting: mclarek 981736Irony meters just aren't what they used to be. They haven't kept up with the unexpected exponential increase.
So you eat crow for once.
Quoting: mclarek 981736For allegedly misunderstanding Nancy Lieder?? Surely you jest.
In terms of the AXIAL points for the Moon, the Earth "drags" it forward -- talking in layman's terms of DIRECTIONS for the rotation and revolution combinations (superposition).
Quoting: mclarek 981736Then DON'T talk in those terms, because you are talking nonsense. There are no "axial points" for the Moon. You just made it up.
Earth provides the gravity which keeps the Moon in orbit. Earth provides no such thing toward the Moon's rotation.
In FACT it is deflected by the Sun away from a straight line, through angular momentum pull from the Sun AND by the Earth.
Quoting: mclarek 981736There is no such thing as "angular momentum pull". You just made it up.
For once, GET THE RELEVANT POINT without insisting on other aspects. Geez. The Moon does not rotate on its axis at the order of the Earth as an axis (wel, the barycentre).
Quoting: mclarek 981736There are no "levels" or "orders" involved. You just made that up.
That is what Nancy was saying would NOT have to be stopped, in a pole shift of the Moon, whereas such rotation would have to be stopped on the Earth, even if no longer revlving around the Sun, forward.
Quoting: mclarek 981736 Nancy has spoken of no poleshift of the Moon. No link, no quote. Didn't happen.
And don't pick up on the word "forward" because you want to make me show I know everything is relative. I mean around on its circle (revolution) around the Sun, which is a forward motion to the body, described simply. You CAN'T BE THIS THICK and mean, can you?
Quoting: mclarek 981736Repeat:
Bottom line: Both you and Nancy believe that the Moon is being DRAGGED around in rotation by the Earth. THAT is why I was asking you about angular momentum. You danced all around the issue, as you do with everything.