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Message Subject Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Poster Handle mclarek
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George, I, too, have been being careful with people who can't deal with implications.

<snip>. That's the more important thing: we can think beyond the next Slurpee from a 7/11,

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some people's viciousness and anger about even saying the name "JFK" (without any other mention!) is stunning after all this time.



First of all, in my opinion there's at least as much if not more viciousness and anger coming from the side of the conspiracy theorists.

Secondly, your first two statements are straight out of the handbook and condescendingly annoying.

There are people who can "deal with implications," who are concerned with the larger problems facing the world, who have studied these subjects as much as you but who have come to different conclusions.

As far as your family is concerned, it might be your obsessiveness as much as the subject matter that causes friction. I know because I've been there.
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Hi.

I actually was out for a Slurpee two days ago while on my way to "Ghostwriter", and had the thought, therefore. It was an incongruous situation: to talk with a friend about spies and sell-outs in gov't, while at an "ordinary" place. But both are truly going on.

One does not have to be condescending to be telling the truth about people who do not INTEGRATE their knowledge: they sit in a bar, say, and discuss politics, and vote -- so in that sense it's part of their life -- but to integrate the knowledge/feeling that the hell is going on right now and all the time, that's rarer, IN FACT.

A lot of people also are deliberately not informing themselves. There are some things which are not actually debatable any more. There is a lack of media pundits acknowledging these truths (issues which are for sure, like JFK's death's being a conspiracy with current implications). Because of this, people remain very often in a haze of uncertainty, or if they do bother, they can reach "different conclusions", having read "the sides" but not the analysis of the sides, to help them compare the mistakes.

Or they get furious just hearing of "that kooky stuff." Because it's been KEPT OFF-LIMITS, made off limits by official denouncements.

In fact, it's history, reality. Some of it is now KNOWN.

As to family or obsessiveness, this is true, it can be a problem. But there is a fact that when one wakes up it does become a constant fire to learn more and stop the insanity in the world. In time, this fire, if you're healthy, does diminish into a smoulder -- but it should NEVER go away entirely for importan applications.

As Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr, said (and I paraphrase): Don't go suggesting I shouldn't care. Rhere are some things which are important and I do care and I should always care.

Obsessiveness and deep care not only can look similar to those who resist the challenge of the latter, but in fact they overlap at times. And it is hard to stay more on the side of deeply caring.

No-one wants to be actually obsessive, of course. So it helps to remind ourselves that it is hard work and time to discover and be upset about these things, which can look like morbid obsession or turn to it sometimes. As long as we keep it to the mostly healthy "obsessive" side though and in the end, if we keep our spirit focussed on the caring aspect, we won't be obsessive, so much as active and caring -- even if others call demean that focussed and knowedgeable care as obsessive anyway.
 
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