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I'd guess you base your belief in chemtrails on silly Youtube videos, and it wouldn't really be a 'guess' since you already cited some of them which contain obviously false information.

Since I am so very simple and an obvious easy mark, using obviously bogus evidence, why don't you take my challenge . . . no, no, don't say it . . . it is a waste of my time! You take time to respond to almost every post posted here . . . what is the difference?



Why don't you present some REAL evidence, George?

Why don't you present an analysis of a chemtrail and a contrail taken in situ?

Oh wait, no one has bothered to do that, have they?

Until you do, you are just ranting in the night.

Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.

So the dozens of people who saw an aircraft hit the Pentagon
are all wrong?

[snip for brevity]

I refuse to argue with idiots that claim there were no aircraft. I believe what these witness say they saw and I
refuse to engage in this any further.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -

Oh crapazoid!

Go learning.

I am telling you facts.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -- and work on it over many shows, refining the work, correcting issues, and so on. They provide multiple pages and links.

As to April's "SPECULATION", you seem not to understand that a witness who is of sane mind, within 40-80 feet f a jet crash (expecially in any kind of semi-enclosed air corridor) would have to smell jet fuel.

This is NATURE. Thus, the witness stands.


As to saying John Lear is bonkers, you are wrong. He believes some wild things about space missions, because he has been told things by intelligence insiders and a) they lie, b) they've been lied to, c) some things are fishy about NASA.

But on planes and crashes and flight paths, it was his LIFE'S WORK, long before he got interested in UFOs and so on after.

As to the pieces of the planes on the Pentalawn, and the tarp with men carrying something out -- it was one of the promoted photos -- and so on, do your own research.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

But I suggest you actually look at the Websites recommended over hundreds of hours of Jim's shows. Not everything pans out, but most does. I have done the work of listening and lookng and thinking on it and don't have it all on file. I remember the basic facts and ones which check out ... so do your own work on it.

NO JET FUEL, NO PARTS (at first), PARALLAX PROBLEMS, WITNESS PROBLEMS, SOUND TRACK PROBLEMS, PERFECT CUT-OUT PICS OF PLANES (Shanksville and South Tower), etc.

Gimme a break.
Oh! Coffee. Gonna have some.

If I go listen to all the work again, I will post the links as I rediscover them. I have some things to do now. Don't worry, if I bother, you'll have them.

They're there though.

xo!

Oh crapazoid!

Go learning.

I am telling you facts.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -- and work on it over many shows, refining the work, correcting issues, and so on. They provide multiple pages and links.

As to April's "SPECULATION", you seem not to understand that a witness who is of sane mind, within 40-80 feet f a jet crash (expecially in any kind of semi-enclosed air corridor) would have to smell jet fuel.

This is NATURE. Thus, the witness stands.

As to saying John Lear is bonkers, you are wrong. He believes some wild things about space missions, because he has been told things by intelligence insiders and a) they lie, b) they've been lied to, c) some things are fishy about NASA.

But on planes and crashes and flight paths, it was his LIFE'S WORK, long before he got interested in UFOs and so on after.

As to the pieces of the planes on the Pentalawn, and the tarp with men carrying something out -- it was one of the promoted photos -- and so on, do your own research.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

But I suggest you actually look at the Websites recommended over hundreds of hours of Jim's shows. Not everything pans out, but most does. I have done the work of listening and lookng and thinking on it and don't have it all on file. I remember the basic facts and ones which check out ... so do your own work on it.

NO JET FUEL, NO PARTS (at first), PARALLAX PROBLEMS, WITNESS PROBLEMS, SOUND TRACK PROBLEMS, PERFECT CUT-OUT PICS OF PLANES (Shanksville and South Tower), etc.

Gimme a break.
Oh! Coffee. Gonna have some.

If I go listen to all the work again, I will post the links as I rediscover them. I have some things to do now. Don't worry, if I bother, you'll have them.

They're there though.

xo!

Ya really have nothing, do ya?

Ya really have nothing, do ya?



I would disagree, she clearly has SOMETHING, but not being a mental health professional I am damned if I know what it is called, but clearly she has a quite advanced case of whatever it is.

Ya really have nothing, do ya?



I would disagree, she clearly has SOMETHING, but not being a mental health professional I am damned if I know what it is called, but clearly she has a quite advanced case of whatever it is.

LOL OK will concede that.

Honestly, can't give it a name either, but it is entertaining.

No, unlike me and LUNAR LOSS OF LOCK WHEN PHYSICALLY STOPPED.

Hmm?

I admit to not knowing that.

No, you are making claims, but refusing to provide any evidence whatsoever. Theres a difference.

DrPostman, do you know how I get the 'send personal Msg' on my margin?

You mean "Send Private Message"? You don't have that option?

Clare doesn't even see that in order for her "supporting evidence"
to work it would require those witnesses ALL lying (which
her site implies) and hundreds upon hundreds of people all
keeping perfectly silent on this conspiracy. Secrecy doesn't
work like that at all. Ben Franklin said it best: "Three
can keep a secret if two of them are dead".

It would be amusing to add up all the numbers of people who
have to keep perfect silence if Apollo was a hoax and 911
was a conspiracy.

Listen for hours to researchers on Fetzer's show go over and over the evidence -


Doing that is no doubt part of your problem.

-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,

No, unlike me and LUNAR LOSS OF LOCK WHEN PHYSICALLY STOPPED.

Hmm?

I admit to not knowing that.


Clare, this is how I see it:

There are 3 levels of understanding the moon's appearance from earth:
1) The 7 year old's view: They see the same face of the moon presented and determine that the moon does not rotate on its axis.
2) The high schooler's view: They see the same thing. They can visualize in 3D and realize that if the moon orbits the earth then it must rotate on its own axis to explain what is seen from earth.
3) The science major at university student's view: The same as the high schooler's except they know enough physics to mathematically model the motion.

You came in here at level 1 and attempted to kick ass and take names of the level 2 & 3 people here.
N*ncy and her acolytes display the same arrogant ignorance.

Your problem now is that you've demonstrated that you've the technical intellect of a 7 year old.
Continued discussion of technical issues only reveals your lack of knowledge, lack of education, and arrogance in those fields.

You should stick to art where you may have some expertise. (yet to be seen, and probably challenged by GLPers who are experts in the arts.)


R.

-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,




Clare, you are simply delusional.

[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.no] link.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

[link to www.america.gov]

I think I did an amazing job of keeping the discussion straight and pointing out where people were making mistakes about others' understandings.

-there were no PLANE PARTS anywhere, except impossibly small parts at the Pentagon,




Clare, you are simply delusional.

[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.no] link.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

[link to www.america.gov]


I meant carryable parts.
And none in the first photos -- and April didn't see any. You would have a big massive crumpled, broken plane, at least on major sections.

YOU are deluded about the physics yourself, dear science major.

Come on Clare. I learned long ago that most of what the government says is lies, the parts that are true are only there to make the bullshit around them more palatable for human consumption. If you think that you are going to expose the lies, you have more self importance than any one human being should have. The important part is to realize that we are surrounded by lies and use that little revelation to be discerning about the news around us. If you waste all your energy trying to root out the "truth" you are just chasing your own tail and spending time and energy that would be better spent elsewhere. Even if you find the truth, what good will it do anyone? Will it bring back the dead? Do you honestly think your quest for truth will change anything? You are deluded if you think so.

If you like doom and conspiracy so much, you don't need to dredge up things that happened years ago. We have real bonafide doom ongoing right now in the gulf of Mexico. I am not a doom merchant, but I do recognize the potential for great doom if this leak is not stopped soon. There are lots of lies and smoking mirrors. And it is happening NOW. If people get involved as it happens, there is a better chance of affecting the outcome.

Did you know that in spite of the GOM disaster, YOUR government (not US government that you love to malign) and the premier of BC want to go ahead with plans to lift the ban on offshore drilling off the coast of YOUR country? Do you know that if we allow this to happen, someday it could be OUR waters and coastlines that are affected? Or maybe since you live in the center of the universe, far away from the Gulf of Mexico and even farther away from the BC coast, you don't care and prefer to beat old horses and conspiracy theories.


Ah, I know this argument: why dredge up past lies?

Well, some of us here don't have THOSE straight, so they're sitting ducks for the next ones.

Second, history matters, period.

Third, ALL THE FORWARD WARS and CURRENT WARS are based on these lies.

Fourth, ALL LIES ARE IMPORTANT. ALL TRAGEDIES DESERVE THEIR DAY. And we are still going along with body scans and so on ... because of these lies. No planes, no 9/11 events except death. Now let's talk: what do we accept about current events?

Lastly, if your argument is less about not facing lies and more about living in the now": sure, it's all important. Feed your kids, fight the oil spill, etc. --- or whatever.
But it does not mean the bigger potential didn't happen and the bigger potential isn't plotting now.

You are surely deluded, and like all conspiracy nuts, you shirk your responsibility to acting in the NOW to prevent lies from causing grief in the NOW and tomorrow because it is much easier to sit on your computer and watch youtube videos, read conspiracy blogs and post drivel that won't change a thing. Hey, I agree. We aren't being told the truth about 911, though I don't believe 75% of the analysis from the tin foil hat brigade either, because it's based on bad science and pseudo science. It's enough to know that the whole affair is surrounded by lies. What those lies are is irrelevant, and like JFK, we will never know for sure. Most Americans agree that the truth about JFK has never been told, and at this point, even if we got to the truth, it changes nothing.

Meanwhile, while you chase down irrelevant details to reinforce that we are being lied to, real things are happening. Real lies are being told. Real information is being kept from us, and not just south of the border. There is plenty going on in your own country that needs our attention, but you are too busy sticking your nose in American conspiracies. No wonder our fucking country is such a mess.

So, I am clearly not dumb or not worth listening to.

As to the physical evidence:
There were no plane parts found anywhere, except wrong types and tiny bits.



And this is bull.

There were plane parts all over Manhattan.

The pictures are everywhere.


Nope.

There were an engine and a couple of other small plants.

If you don't separate the viewpoints you will be confused and CONFUSING to someone who is learning.

Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.

Not a bad idea . . . is there a way to use laser technology to do some type of remote mass spectrometry? Sorry, I have to run . . . see you all later.


Not only is it not "a bad idea", it is the only manner to test the claim. Why hasn't it been done after all these years?

As to MS... what a fanciful idea. If one could produce a vacuum chamber that stretched to the contrail and --- (trails off into a boring description of GC-MS instrumentation)

You haven't a clue either, do you George?

Get a sample that doesn't consist of some toothless wonder putting an open jar of water in the bed of his F150 for a few weeks and having it analysed and misinterpreting the data. Maybe the barium in the jar of water came from the Reptilian Overlords. That's my explanation. My neighbour says it came from fairies and sprites since the jar is much closer to the ground than to a 30000' flight path.
Prove either 'theory' wrong.

R.

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]

I think I did an amazing job of keeping the discussion straight and pointing out where people were making mistakes about others' understandings.


Oh man! This is classic! Clare, YOU were the one making ALL the mistakes which were all pointed out to you. Are you ALWAYS this delusional?

Here are some items of interest:
[link to www.freedomfiles.org]



You've got to be kidding.

Items of interest such as:

"Those who do not know who and what the Illuminati are, I suggest that you download and watch David dIcke's Lecture on the Illuminati."

What did I say? It was only a matter of time before the Reptilians came up :)

If you don't separate the viewpoints you will be confused and CONFUSING to someone who is learning.



Funny how six year olds have a perfect grasp of this but yet you obviously STILL don't.

How does it work? Do you have to sign in to see that -- even for you? It is not showing for your i.d. either, when I am not signed in even for your margin i.d. ... So I'm just wondering about that, as well.

You have to register. George is registered AND a paying member
so he shouldn't be having any problems. If you see this
George please feel free to email me.