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Hey, Tricey, are you in East, Central or West US, and North or South, roughly? Would help to just picture you, roughly.

Just curious.

It's 9 past midnight here in Toronto.

{>:-)

By the way, do you like the Triceratops emoticon I created a while back?

I am in the south (west) central area of the US . . .South Central Texas to be exact.

By the way, do you like the Triceratops emoticon I created a while back? . . . No . . . I am not sure what you mean by emoticon?
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Oh! Is that a plains area? I love plains.

Emoticons are any symbols for faces or objects: they started with smileys, etc. Most places to post or e-mail programs now have actual emotional moving smbols (such as here at GLP, all those symbols at the bottom of the post page for you to choose from).

But in many situations, pure typing remains the key to the replacement by a pre-drawn image. So a :) becomes an actual smiley face, for example.

So here's my Triceratops:

{ for frilly crest, > for top two horns, : for eyes, - for nose horn, and ) for smile ...

{>:-)
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At least she hasn't gotten to Princess Di, Tesla or the Phoebus Cartel yet.


I'm sure she's good for 10+ pages on each of those topics.
None of my business, but I'd like to see this thread get back to eviscerating NanZeta.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 992981

I didn't know that particular cartel (conspiracy). I do know some about Tesla and Princess Di. I have checked up the Phoebus Cartel. Yah, business conspiracy -- Tesla's patents and work were affected by cartelism and conspiracy too.
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Come on, clunker, what is Vne on the 757/767 airframe?

if you don't answer we will know it is because you don't know and can't be bothered to find out.

But then, everyone who knows your work knows you have not a clue what Vne is.

Ever hear of "Q," clunker? Ever hear Q=1/2Rho V^2? Of course not, they don't teach aerodynamics 101 at the schools you went to.

Tell us, was the short bus comfortable? Did you lick the windows? Were you the brightest window liker in the short bus, clunker?

Straw man for me; relevant maybe to Lear.
So, if it's relevant, tell me. I never said I understand all specifics of planes. I know from others and from reason some things about planes. Other than that, I presented Pilots' work and Lear's.

Not important for me to answer you again. I answered with the issue of air pressure and handling at those speeds, due to the fans of the engines.

YOU handle that. That is the point.

My other knowledge on specific straw men isn't important. The point, Stoopid, is your not handling of the expert claims and of the vids.

So if you know so much about aerodynamics, comment on the expert's work. I posted the info so you could see what I meant by the airflow problems for handling. I made no other issue claims about the plane dynamics, except their fitting into holes and the problems with their looks on Vids, and the parallax probs in some of the same vids.
 Quoting: mclarek 992620



No, sorry, clunker, you didn't give the Vne.

And if you do not know about Q and q=1/2 Rho V^2 you lack the basic background to even begin discussing aeronautical issues.

So, back on the short bus with you, clunker, you have proven you have not a clue what you are talking about.

YOU made the claims, clunker, YOU have the responsibility to back them up, and YOU CAN'T! All you can do if find batshit crazy fools like Lear to tell you what you want to hear.

You should be ashamed of yourself, clunker, but that is an adult emotion i don't expect you have much familiarity with.
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And what hard questions? I brought up the REAL hard questions he mocks and you backed off. LOL!

PMSL, ROTFLMAO


commentator- you are right

shes an obnoxious little bitch, but she does come up with the occassional gold nugget

(LOL- she brought up the REAL hard questions...)

PMSL what a fuckin ego this dumbarse has!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624



Didn't I tell you she was a GREAT chew toy good for some comedy gold now and again? ;-)

Wonder what meds she is supposed to be on?
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NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Yowza.

Clare certainly has jumped the shark.

- PX
- Ninny Lieder
- JFK
- Uncle Fester
- Jackass White.
- Chemtrails
- 911 No-planer
- Moon doesn't rotate
- John Lear
- Alex Jones
- Freemasons
- Vatican
- Jesuits
- Israel
- Queen of England
- Queen of Netherlands
etc., etc.

She's a veritable Hoover of crank conspiracies.
It takes a special kind of stupid to fall for every kOOk koncept that comes down the pike.




At least she hasn't gotten to Princess Di, Tesla or the Phoebus Cartel yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583



Didn't you know? Di built the planes with her own two hands, and designed the special remote control system on them. And the Queen flew them all herself, but jumped out the window into the waiting arms of alex jones who saved her......
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Yowza.

Clare certainly has jumped the shark.

- PX
- Ninny Lieder
- JFK
- Uncle Fester
- Jackass White.
- Chemtrails
- 911 No-planer
- Moon doesn't rotate
- John Lear
- Alex Jones
- Freemasons
- Vatican
- Jesuits
- Israel
- Queen of England
- Queen of Netherlands
etc., etc.

She's a veritable Hoover of crank conspiracies.
It takes a special kind of stupid to fall for every kOOk koncept that comes down the pike.




At least she hasn't gotten to Princess Di, Tesla or the Phoebus Cartel yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

What nonsense! Crack conspiracies. All are true except possibly PX and Nancy. We have mountains of historical info on the other creeps. And it's ordinary history to know about JFK's death -- if you look -- 9/11 (and no planes if you look), the monarchies and their power, the Vat-cn and Isr-le, etc. are both religious and temporal power, and the V has been throughout history. What's with you?!

The Moon DOES rotate; I always said it did relative to the Sun. Yikes! You really mix apples and oranges and continue mistakes long after they're cleared up.

Lear is a plane expert; that is how I brought him up. Not for some of his other thoughts.

Mr. White did excellent work on the photos in JFK -- and led Costella to the area of the film where the jackpot distortion proof of Zapruder fakery tehreby, even though some of Jack's suspicions have not been borne out and others are inconclusive but likely part of the crappy fakery in JFK's death.

Mr. White has also done excellent work on the Moon photos, though again not all are as conclusive as others. When a flag has no shadow, a backpack facing you has no flap up on "TV" but does have it up in the photo, or when shadows point to a light source too close to the matter being photographed for that light source to be the Sun (even with hilly distortions on the shadows) ... it's clear there were faked photos, AT LEAST among the photos, EVEN IF we went.

By the way, the bottom rocket jets on the LM couldn't perform the side corrections attributed to them by the films (because it was likely lowered from the ceiling). They had different models, clearly, this is what would be required. So at least the footage is at least partly fake.

And Fetzer and Jones, while very different and disliking each other somewhat, both do some excellent work.

So ... you are being a Ninny, yourself. :)
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I didn't know that particular cartel (conspiracy). I do know some about Tesla and Princess Di. I have checked up the Phoebus Cartel. Yah, business conspiracy -- Tesla's patents and work were affected by cartelism and conspiracy too.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233



Clare, you do know that Tesla was able to travel backwards in time on at least 4 occasions? There is documentation of him cross dressing with Pierre L'Enfant and Weishaupt/Washington at the Scottish Rite parties next to the Saucer Base under the Tidal Basin.

I know, I know. It sounded crazy to me at first, too. But you have to look at the video over and over a few times.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Didn't you know? Di built the planes with her own two hands, and designed the special remote control system on them. And the Queen flew them all herself, but jumped out the window into the waiting arms of alex jones who saved her......
 Quoting: The Commentator

Stoopid's back.

Why don't you hold back, Stoopid, since you haven't handled what's been presented. When you're ready, then you can talk b/c it won't be out your rear end. LOL!

So -- since this is just ridicule of ideas you don't understand, by mixing them up, and only muddies the court, silence in the court from you. :)

Finally, do you now understand, Stoopid, what is wrong with the planes going that fast and remaining controllable? The airflow and pressure, since you seem to think to understand the kind of thing going on there, a person needs a special course and an equation to hallow it, in your appeal to authority fallacy (that a course is required to explain something)?

FYI, not that you care, because you seem to need to do it so constantly, but I am only mirroring your manner by using an insult term at you and repeating it in a post.

If you ACTUALLY want to handle (accept or disprove) Lear's claim there about air processing capacity of the engines, please do. I am still open to true perspectives from you. That is only fair, though perhaps it is not your expertise, for all your ridicule of Lear and me?
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Didn't you know? Di built the planes with her own two hands, and designed the special remote control system on them. And the Queen flew them all herself, but jumped out the window into the waiting arms of alex jones who saved her......

Stoopid's back.


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I didn't know you were gone.

Oddly, the air has been cleaner in your absence.

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So -- since this is just ridicule of ideas you don't understand, by mixing them up, and only muddies the court, silence in the court from you. :)
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WHAT is it with these fuckin nutcases??

they come here to the debunker chat thread and every single time they want to say WE cant post on OUR thread

yet again a nutcase that believes in every crank `theory' from A to Z wants to ban us from our own thread...

what is it in them that frootcakes ALWAYS have this control streak in them???

guess what clunk I would like to see YOU try it...
complete silence from clunk and all her wacked out brain farts....

whats the odds on THAT happening LOL
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And what hard questions? I brought up the REAL hard questions he mocks and you backed off. LOL!

PMSL, ROTFLMAO


commentator- you are right

shes an obnoxious little bitch, but she does come up with the occassional gold nugget

(LOL- she brought up the REAL hard questions...)

PMSL what a fuckin ego this dumbarse has!!!!



Didn't I tell you she was a GREAT chew toy good for some comedy gold now and again? ;-)

Wonder what meds she is supposed to be on?
 Quoting: The Commentator to Anonymous Coward 763624

Well, Stoopid has misunderstood the point again, from his own interloquitor. The AC said I came up with gold nuggets, not that your mocking produces gold for goons such as you solipsistically to satisfy yourselves with.

As to the rest, I meant the fact I brought up the hard questions. I was not stressing myself, there, and ego, but the fact that the other issues are the least discussed -- because of resistance as you've shown massively -- so it's an objective reality if you actually handle the material, to say the V- and Is- are elephants in the room, so to speak. (Less so the latter, though, unless the term anti-semite creeps in to shut down any criticism of the country, its partly idealistic but partly nefarious origins).

As well, I am making the subtle but obvious point to anyone not stupid or ill-informed, that power politics are old; the impetus to run cloak and dagger (and much else) through old networks is well established, and if YOU'RE CAREFUL, you can trace some of the current conspiratorial workings of people who are sympathetic to or trained in each cause.

Some persons will turn out to be inconclusively in on a given action, even if part of the group. But that the groups do have members running power ops and many side evils, is clear enough.

Always did.

The continuity is also a subtle thing: the tendency of an oligarchy to maintain itself in various ways, particularly in mind-set even when temporarily disbanded, dethroned, ousted, etc., is well established. But there is also a complicating factor: new oligarchies do develop and may only take on trappings from disbanded groups before them.

For example:

To say the Templars were the Masons were the Illuminists were the Knights of the Golden Circle -- US south in the War between the States -- etc. is a bit misleading but has its truth factor. (Note: as well as being knights in the ordinary sense, the Templars were big financiers, occultists and supporters of takeover of Jerusalem and the Byzantine lands from the Turks, on behalf of the Venetians, partly.)

But did they continue directly into all the groups or did some take trappings of the old power they developed? It would seem both were true. In Portugal, the Knights Templar escaped to become Knights of St John, and the Knights of Malta, their fortified brother order got the papers and riches from the confiscated KT later by a traitorous Pope, and in Scotland there is some suggestion of KTs holding out.

But after these changes, are they "still around"? Well, depends how you look at it. Some aspects may have survived and changed into new forms. Also, the type of control they exercised continued in their children-groups (so to speak) as well as as inspiration to others of like oligarchic mind set later. But in the sense of an organized network? Unknowable. It's probable secret messages continued, and sympathizers helped them and were inducted. But it's not directly provable.

So, I think I have shown that I know subtlety of interpretation on these and similar matters. I am aware of how something is true in one sense and not true in another.

The key, guys, is that SOME of this is true. Hence we must face it. That's all. Though that's a tall order.

Things were once common knowledge, at least in gist, which now you disavow both for the further past and the recent past/on-going present.

Michelangelo and Caravaggio would laugh their heads off, as would Cicero and some in the FBI, etc., and some modern statespeople, too, if they heard you suggest these things don't go on.
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So -- since this is just ridicule of ideas you don't understand, by mixing them up, and only muddies the court, silence in the court from you. :)


WHAT is it with these fuckin nutcases??

they come here to the debunker chat thread and every single time they want to say WE cant post on OUR thread

yet again a nutcase that believes in every crank `theory' from A to Z wants to ban us from our own thread...

what is it in them that frootcakes ALWAYS have this control streak in them???

guess what clunk I would like to see YOU try it...
complete silence from clunk and all her wacked out brain farts....

whats the odds on THAT happening LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

I didn't mean you can't post, and that's of course impossible to achieve, even if I dislike his manner or yours. Hence the smiley.

What I meant is he's failing being a jury member of the issue.

What's with these easily bruised egos who think they have all the answers and anyone else is a nutjob? Ha ha ha.

Your position is particularly ludicrous as the fakery speaks for itself, if you look carefully, and leads to other hypotheses than your prima facie assumptions would suggest.
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I didn't know you were gone.

Oddly, the air has been cleaner in your absence.
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You mean your recycled air of Utopiaville?

LOL!
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And what hard questions? I brought up the REAL hard questions he mocks and you backed off. LOL!

PMSL, ROTFLMAO


commentator- you are right

shes an obnoxious little bitch, but she does come up with the occassional gold nugget

(LOL- she brought up the REAL hard questions...)

PMSL what a fuckin ego this dumbarse has!!!!



Didn't I tell you she was a GREAT chew toy good for some comedy gold now and again? ;-)

Wonder what meds she is supposed to be on?

Well, Stoopid has misunderstood the point again,...
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When have you EVER understood a point?

Good think your main point is sometimes covered.....by your hat....
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I didn't know that particular cartel (conspiracy). I do know some about Tesla and Princess Di. I have checked up the Phoebus Cartel. Yah, business conspiracy -- Tesla's patents and work were affected by cartelism and conspiracy too.



Clare, you do know that Tesla was able to travel backwards in time on at least 4 occasions? There is documentation of him cross dressing with Pierre L'Enfant and Weishaupt/Washington at the Scottish Rite parties next to the Saucer Base under the Tidal Basin.

I know, I know. It sounded crazy to me at first, too. But you have to look at the video over and over a few times.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583

Really! Oh how fascinating. I am sure that there's a bridge moving backwards with two towers staying still in front of it, for you to buy. It's called the Varazzano bridge!

There are facts (fakery, including the Varazzano on 9/11 revealing some of it in some vids), and then there are unsupported claims. Yours is the latter.

But you can have the real faked bridge vid to buy.
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I didn't know you were gone.

Oddly, the air has been cleaner in your absence.

You mean your recycled air of Utopiaville?

LOL!
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Is that the name of the institution you are confined to? I am sure it is an inspiring name for you and your inpatient friends.

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NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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easily bruised ego's

PMSL

from the frootloop that has fallen into the gap and believes every nutcase conjob out there-

clunk you are fuckin priceless- i have never seen anyone as ignorantly stupid as youself- and you are PROUD of it!!!

you HAVE to be a windup troll- because nobody, nowhere on this planet could be as dumb as you try to appear to be!!!

anyone that dumb wouldnt have the intelligence to breathe on a regular basis without writing it on her hand..
left hand- breathe in
right hand breathe out
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No, sorry, clunker, you didn't give the Vne.

And if you do not know about Q and q=1/2 Rho V^2 you lack the basic background to even begin discussing aeronautical issues.

So, back on the short bus with you, clunker, you have proven you have not a clue what you are talking about.

YOU made the claims, clunker, YOU have the responsibility to back them up, and YOU CAN'T! All you can do if find batshit crazy fools like Lear to tell you what you want to hear.

You should be ashamed of yourself, clunker, but that is an adult emotion i don't expect you have much familiarity with.
 Quoting: The Commentator

No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.

I can be well informed enough of a phenomenon in plain descriptive language by an expert to understand what HE claims in the basic form.

I do not have to know ALL about aerodynamics to understand that air pressure affects fan rotation and lift. Exactly how isn't the point. The point is the relevance to the question of these planes doing these things.

I backed the claim up. HE knows aerodynamics in more depth. Argue with HIS technical knowledge.

I understand the claim overall. You want to know more, argue the case. I want to see it. Go on? Or does your hot air only go one way? LOL!

As to shame, I know more of it than you do, clearly, for I know I have struggled to face many truths here, and sort through which parts have validity -- making mistakes along the way -- but have sorted through a lot more than you and felt ashamed I didn't suspect these things. I have also followed the twists and turns of the developing arguments, which means I have had to deeply change my mind on many issues, and sometimes change it back again corrected on some part.
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speaking of frootloops has anyone seen the new ning survival manual???


now there is some really strange ideas...


[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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No, sorry, clunker, you didn't give the Vne.

And if you do not know about Q and q=1/2 Rho V^2 you lack the basic background to even begin discussing aeronautical issues.

So, back on the short bus with you, clunker, you have proven you have not a clue what you are talking about.

YOU made the claims, clunker, YOU have the responsibility to back them up, and YOU CAN'T! All you can do if find batshit crazy fools like Lear to tell you what you want to hear.

You should be ashamed of yourself, clunker, but that is an adult emotion i don't expect you have much familiarity with.

No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.



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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.
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{>:-)

OH you mean the (>:-), talk tomorrow.
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Yup!

And I used a { for the crest because they had a kind of frill, though not so much as the styracosaurus, which had horns on its neck-protector head-plate. And they had no two horns on their brow, only a nose horn.

Hm. Doing a Styrakky. How? Maybe ...

#{:-)
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.
 Quoting: The Commentator

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)
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No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.

I can be well informed enough of a phenomenon in plain descriptive language by an expert to understand what HE claims in the basic form.

I do not have to know ALL about aerodynamics to understand that air pressure affects fan rotation and lift. Exactly how isn't the point. The point is the relevance to the question of these planes doing these things.

I backed the claim up. HE knows aerodynamics in more depth. Argue with HIS technical knowledge.

I understand the claim overall. You want to know more, argue the case. I want to see it. Go on? Or does your hot air only go one way? LOL!

As to shame, I know more of it than you do, clearly, for I know I have struggled to face many truths here, and sort through which parts have validity -- making mistakes along the way -- but have sorted through a lot more than you and felt ashamed I didn't suspect these things. I have also followed the twists and turns of the developing arguments, which means I have had to deeply change my mind on many issues, and sometimes change it back again corrected on some part.
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wrong canadian breaddead moron

(what is it about canadia anyways?? we had luser and his `canadian word' and clunk and her canadian braindeath....



hummmm..

or is it the one canadian???
lost the foulmouth abuse and is now being paid to act the dumb bimbo

we know he was getting paid by nancy - is this his new assignment???

LOL



(luser all dressed up in his best frilly underwear- what a sight THAT would be...)
on second thoughts NAH I do NOT want THAT image in my head.....
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)
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its almost like a cross of maxipad and his `I am a lawyer guy and luser and his canadian crossdressing....


































































now I am scaring myself- kurt speaking in a canadian accent wearing frilly knickers....

uggghhh......
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I was being clear. I didn't want "Who the heck is Weishaupt?"

Anyway, did you know he was a J-ssuit?



Really, you're the first person in ten years to ever bring up anything like that on this forum.

While you're at it, maybe you could help educate us about this Kenneth Arnold guy I keep hearing about.
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Well, he certainly wasn't the last to say something funny was in the sky. Nazi craft? Ours? Alien?

The 20s and 30s were a great time for experimentation on elecromagnetic-gravitic effects. Townsend Brown wrote about that, too. So ... what do YOU think of that?

So, on the other topic: if I was the first person just to bring up the J--u-sits and their continual meddling in a while here (their meddling, like others', being also like British Imperialism in different forms over the years), does that mean you know that about Weishaupt specifically, yourself?

He's not the only double- or triple-linked person in history, ha ha ha. And of course, a person could do something unapproved of by one of their individual affiliates or group-affiliates, but the J's have been so constantly found in major events, that one must wonder at each case and consider possilbe larger group involvement in the plots.

We also know they, like others in the V became involved over history in HORRIBLE things that are quite commonly written about -- q.v. the Inquisition for starters, which was both religious and fascist oligarchic torture operations. Most people don't connect the Inquisition to anything other than religion, but the political ramifications were clear in the heyday of open Inquisitorial behaviour.
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You keep sending yourself these little notes, clunker, sooner or later two of your neurons may fire in the right order and you will have a dim undertsanding of reality.

Well, then you haven't handled Lear's point.

If you refuse to cross examine his testimony, then you rest on this point and it stands.

:)



its almost like a cross of maxipad and his `I am a lawyer guy and luser and his canadian crossdressing....

[snip of massive paragraph returns]

now I am scaring myself- kurt speaking in a canadian accent wearing frilly knickers....

uggghhh......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

What happened to your post? It was so long with space and unnecessary. :)

As to the flimsy content here, handle the facts in with reason and truthfulness, plus a nice manner if you don't mind, and we'll talk.

Handle Lear's point.

After different someones smeared him again and again for other ideas, and then deflected onto my wording for the effect he describes much better, and then deflected again onto equations in aerodynamics, without handling the issues ...

Will someone please handle them properly? If not, the point rests.

But the fakery makes it evident they had a lot to cover for. So the physics of planes is one way to understand it; the fakery another.
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more `do as I say' from maxiluser in a skirt

what makes you think that I give a shit about what YOU want clunk???

you are a waste of oxygen and bandwidth

did I offend you???- well GOOD

because YOU clunk are offensive to sanity and truth by your very existance....








































































so go watch some more utube garbage- because you have proved nothing...
(except that canadians seem to be more gullible than most when it comes to believing garbage..maybe its your braincell freezing???
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No, sorry Stoopid, your appeal to authority of a course doesn't work in this case.

I can be well informed enough of a phenomenon in plain descriptive language by an expert to understand what HE claims in the basic form.

I do not have to know ALL about aerodynamics to understand that air pressure affects fan rotation and lift. Exactly how isn't the point. The point is the relevance to the question of these planes doing these things.

I backed the claim up. HE knows aerodynamics in more depth. Argue with HIS technical knowledge.

I understand the claim overall. You want to know more, argue the case. I want to see it. Go on? Or does your hot air only go one way? LOL!

As to shame, I know more of it than you do, clearly, for I know I have struggled to face many truths here, and sort through which parts have validity -- making mistakes along the way -- but have sorted through a lot more than you and felt ashamed I didn't suspect these things. I have also followed the twists and turns of the developing arguments, which means I have had to deeply change my mind on many issues, and sometimes change it back again corrected on some part.



wrong canadian breaddead moron

(what is it about canadia anyways?? we had luser and his `canadian word' and clunk and her canadian braindeath....



hummmm..

or is it the one canadian???
lost the foulmouth abuse and is now being paid to act the dumb bimbo

we know he was getting paid by nancy - is this his new assignment???

LOL



(luser all dressed up in his best frilly underwear- what a sight THAT would be...)
on second thoughts NAH I do NOT want THAT image in my head.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

What's really funny is the difference in reason here in my favour. I mean, you guys want to know what happened, and want to really learn truth (or maybe to be ego-satisfied in debunking) ... do your job.

The material glares at you. Do something with it. Insulting me is no reason-substitute for the issues you are not handling at all.

Are you so afraid of such ideas in principle, that to you they cannot be true -- and if they are they are not to be handled? You clearly are not afraid of them without looking. But if they were true, would they be so awful? It only means more fakery in an event we know was false, through every major avenue of inquiry. I mean, they'd make anyone barf to know this was done, but are they so intellectually silly?

Not IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES where intelligence agencies and sympathetic or greedy participants are brought in. By the time some might realize they were part of something fishy (several FBI are in this category now, and probably some in the media, and so on), they are too late.
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ignores more clunk babbling

something about we are afraid of the truth??

clunk you wouldnt know the truth if it came up and punched you in the face- something you richly deserve
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more `do as I say' from maxiluser in a skirt

what makes you think that I give a shit about what YOU want clunk???

you are a waste of oxygen and bandwidth

did I offend you???- well GOOD

because YOU clunk are offensive to sanity and truth by your very existance....

[...]

so go watch some more utube garbage- because you have proved nothing...
(except that canadians seem to be more gullible than most when it comes to believing garbage..maybe its your braincell freezing???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Insult me? Are you kidding?

As to the issue of MY wanting something; I don't -- except truth. YOU are projecting, in suggesting I want, as an ego, to hear you handle the info. Is egotism the only motivation you recognize?

How about wanting something so everyone gets on the better page? How about recognizing others might be afraid of "being silly" or "horrible things happening and they having to know it" and so on?

I know it's unpleasant and sounds, prima facie, silly.

So did a whole bunch of badge men walking around colecting evidence on a big killing (JFK's death) -- well, that would require front companies to make fake ID, police involvement, agents, faking of photos, ruining the (ordinarily) best evidence of the car and the body ... and so on.

But it was so.

So, not from my ego, but YOU AND YOUR COHORTS ASKED for the explanation of my point about the airplane engine pressure problems, and I provided it. Deflecting will not ACTUALLY assuage your fears of handling it. So handle it.

Or don't, but then, you will know somewhere in you that there are loose ends -- and I have shown how loose they are already, and maybe scared you with the depth of the 9/11 theatrepiece most of us bought. As Darwin said about the frozen Mammoths, they always gave him nightmares. He knew they didn't fit pure uniformitarianism.

Handle Lear FOR YOUR OWN SAKE. And handle the Vicsim photos. And the parallax problems. Or you have not done your duty.

Unfortunately, they require that a lot of people lied, and that events were combinations, not quite as solid as you thought.

Hey, Newton was into weird stuff -- some of it being bunk and some of it being GRAVITY (that was seen as kooky at first). Give it a try. You might find a new solidity of hypothesis instead of your old 9/11 tropes. My hypothesis is an emotionaly ugly hypothesis but it fits the full facts elegantly. It requires a lot of complexity but the facts suggest complexity. The ultimate hypothesis is thus simple: no planes hit the stated locations on 9/11, at least none as claimed (possibly a Sky Warrior hit the Pentagon, but that's really dodgy).





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