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mclarek
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ignores more clunk babbling

something about we are afraid of the truth??

clunk you wouldnt know the truth if it came up and punched you in the face- something you richly deserve
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

"Project much," Stoopid?

You never handle the facts. Try it. Give it your old one-two.

The facts are the issue. DEAL with them (without saying it's for my ego so you won't do it).

Scared of no planes? Scared of the theatre?

We should take you to Phantom of the Opera. How appropriate: phantom planes AND theatre.
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yawns- nothing worth replying to from clunk as usual
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But seriously guys, when you get your heads out of your worries and pugilism, you will see I don't want to fight you. I merely want you to see the facts and if they're debunkable, so be it. If not, they're not.

And then -- cue music -- 9/11 becomes revealed as a complete and deadly charade.

9/11 was what it was. Let's find out what it was. And if what it was was a lot of what it wasn't said to be, then so BE it.

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yawns- nothing worth replying to from clunk as usual
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

You didn't read; I can tell.

Having said that, you can stay in your safe place, your "happy place".

<shakes head> Try reading what I said. You might actually like it -- not the implications for your world, but you might find it made sense.

You're the pilot, right? What about Lear's point?

You cannot sleep right knowing it was a good point and you ignored it. You may think you will, but the planes couldn't do those things.

Of course, you don't have to admit to me that Lear had a point. Keep it to yourself until your own ego is strong enough to admit it. I had to do the same myself, re. the videos and so on.
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I said the same a few dozen pages back- there doesn't seem to be a conspiracy theory that clunk wont embrace eagerly...

what to me is amusing is that she continues to berate us for being closed minded- when she has shown that she can `believe' in two opposing theories at the same time

I am GLAD that I am closed minded- if clunk is an example of what being `open minded' is

shes so open minded her mind fell out....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Two opposing theories at the same time?

And which theory do you say is not true, and why?

:)

Bilderberg is real; 9/11 was a fraud; JFK's death was a fraud; etc.
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You are forgetting stealth . . . and terrain following technology . . . unless there were AWACS in the air it could have gotten through.

I'm talking about visuals. People see cruise missiles.
They aren't traveling all that fast. CNN in Baghdad filmed
a few incoming in 2003. The few that do travel at supersonic
speed are very large and definitely noticeable when launched.

Yes, but they were expecting them . . . have you driven in D.C. area? I could easily see a cruse coming up the Potomac without anyone taking notice.
 Quoting: George B

A man actually is on witness about a flyover on the Potomac AFTER the smoke.

I think it's part of the CIT witness depositions.
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more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
mclarek
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Ahhh.

Now I see George is an AJ fan. It all becomes clear.

Sad, but clear.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 992981

From what he said, George is not a "fan" as in a "fanatic" nor am I as I have made clear. The man does expose and provide many things to look at, some of which are common knowledge in circles other than yours: historical, economic, religious, political, etc.

Each one has a piece of the pie, but not all people within each know of the key links between them, some of which AJ knows of and keeps reminding his listeners about.

We have a lot to watch, and are in a global political awakening against al oligarchic interests. It's a birth pang, so to speak, for the common person not only to know -- as they used to -- how debauched some leadership conspiracies are in all fields (religious, political-temporal, economic, etc.), but also to fight it directly without being infiltrated.

Think of it as a new American Revolution, but global. Hopefully, it will include the factions of people waking up just getting together in knowledge and refusal to participate in key areas the oligarchic class would -- generally speaking -- like to push.

This takes a lot of awareness, though.

AJ isn't perfect -- as I mentioned several times. But in the areas he's good, he's very good. It's also a good place to check for news hub from the world, on these key power issues. Not everything posted there is actually significant, and some has undue bias mixed with excellent reportage in the same article, but overall you begin to get clear how very MUCH of some of this stuff IS reported somewhere, but also how little of some issues is reported.

I think the big thing in reportage control is NOT MAKING CONNECTIONS ... like, a tidbit is given, and a wrong impression formed in your mind, even if they don't say anything untoward in the article, such as outright disinfo.

Kind of like on 9/11: your willingness not to notice or not to CONNECT the pieces which don't work, means you assume more is okay than really is. You may know a general "it's bad" but you don't know how very sneaky some of it is. Once you do, a lot unravels. But then you have to deal with ordinary-style ideas from people who don't want to know yet.

Take your time. The facts will wait. However, the world is moving on from you and it's lying along the way if you don't pursue some of this well.

But AJ is not perfect. He just does some things with fervour and back-up. I like both. We need fervour for real fights. And we need good multidisciplinary knowledge from our newscasters: he does have that. He doesn't have it in all ways, but he tells enough that others will check it out and find the power does run from oligarchs in many ways.
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clunk babbling again- something about she believes every conspiracy theory on the planet or something
mclarek
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more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Tried talking to me?

LOLOL!

Handle Lear. Handle the photos. Handle the parallax. They require handling.

The talking from your end was to say I needed to know an equation in ordinary aerodynamics to understand that at some point the plane would become uncontrollable.

Or to just insult what I sent and say you "debunked it" because it had what you didn't want to hear.

I saw no actual debunking -- except that you didn't like that people could go on a "tear circuit" with 2 identical-faced photos of a false loved one. But of course they CAN and HAVE to be in some 9/11 memorial circumstances, because their particular photos can't be genuine.

And in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, the usually improbable can turn into highly probable: it was an intelligence op. This is what they DO.

Plus, that hghly probable becomes a near certainty which is REQUIRED from the other evidence: the photos, etc.

It's not a notion from regular life jumping into the nearly impossible. It's not regular life; things are possible in the organized intelligence theatre which are not really possible and probable in other circumstances.
mclarek
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Also, dear:

more clunk babbling

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so

totally ignores the latest clunk babbling
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

You still haven't handled Lear. Take a shot at it. Can't, can you?

That's what's making you clam up and just try to insult me. Well, good. At least your reticence to handle the facts of the matter will reveal to you at some point that there is something you are missing -- even if you COULD have debunked it, you have simply missed it in just consoling yourself by trying to insult me.

Handle Lear's claim, not his character. Handle parallax probs, not your belief that they just used planes though they could have not done so. Handle Vicsim duplicates and quadruplicates, not the (understandable) cry of horror you gave at the idea of some fake family members being on a circuit with real ones.
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clunk babbling again- something about she believes every conspiracy theory on the planet or something
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

No, Prisonplanet is A Jones' site.

He posts news from around the world, as well as articles people associated with him write.
mclarek
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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We also know they, like others in the V became involved over history in HORRIBLE things that are quite commonly written about -- q.v. the Inquisition for starters,
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


More shocking revelations from the Great White North:

Catholics were involved in the Inquisition.

What? No Youtube video to back that up?
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No, Prisonplanet is A Jones' site.
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


It is? Really? Are you sure?

Keep digging. You're getting to the bottom of the onion now.
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: mclarek 986233


The Most Scottish Man in Canada

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Clunk troll getting desperate as more ignore her.
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I have often wondered why some of the most die hard kooks on GLP are Canadians. First Luser and Freestore, now we have Clare. Not all of us are this stupid.
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I have often wondered why some of the most die hard kooks on GLP are Canadians. First Luser and Freestore, now we have Clare. Not all of us are this stupid.
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hmmm so prove them wrong....





;-)

just kidding

not ALL canadians are wankers...
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but the ones that are certainly try to make up for it...
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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

we havent seen luser for a while- about the same time that clunk arrived...

I did think that maybe luser had taken to wearing frilly knickers and calling himself clunk, after all a bucks a buck right?

thats about all he/she is worth, if that...

and clunk averages about 2 posts a page mostly- great for page bumps but thats about all (pure word salad)
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Anyone seen the Bermas clip? You'll like what he says. He thinks it's all bunk. ... Catch: He's the sound track only though.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: mclarek 986233



Once again, I just hope that someday you and whoever else is churning out this ridiculous shit are confronted in person by a "fake" relative of one of the "fake" "vicsims."
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I never paid much attention to the details of the "no plane" theories beyond the technical arguments about the "missile theory" at the Pentagon.

The obscene viciousness towards the victims displayed not only by Clare but by the sources she is linking to is just blowing me away.

Considering who knows who many thousands are emotionally invested in what happened to the passengers, I don't see how these people can get away with attaching their real names to this.

But I guess if you're safe in your mom's basement in Moose Piss Acres.....
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It's nice to see that, even without Nancy, this thread is going strong.

I noticed that Luser has been absent for quite some time. Did Nancy have to lay him off? I noticed her other paid shill still comes here occasionally.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

He was "celebrating" the self-destruction of TLR a few pages back. He is still around and posts when it is worthwhile to do so.
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Do you know what metal which has been tortured, ground-up, burned and mangled to within an inch of its life SMELLS like, Clare? It's one of the things those of us who have experience in the real, mechanical world of machinery and manufacturing know about, Clare. It's a man thing.


I didn't get your joke here, Menow. To me what you're saying IS a sexist remark. Because what you're saying is that MEN know about mechanical stuff while WOMEN don't. In reality smelling, knowing or experiencing have nothing to do with genitals.

And this wasn't your first sexist remark either. On page 573 you replied to Clare this way:


Clare, you are an embarrassment to your gender.


That's something only directed at women. Men don't need to hear that sort of stuff; men are not shamed because of their gender.


What? How does that imply that women are, or should be, ashamed because of their gender? It actually says the opposite!


No it doesn't say the opposite. You saying Clare is an embarrassment to her gender is not praising females or Clare as a female.

If Clare is an embarrassment to her gender that means in your opinion Clare is not the kind of woman she should be, in your opinion. And, inherent in that statement is an idea of how in your opinion all women should be like. And that's sexist.


Funny, but another woman on the thread (appologies for not remembering the name), agreed with my specific statement wholeheartedly. I guess you don't really speak for all women, as you imagine.

Heh.
 Quoting: Menow 992236


And here you are again, Menow, showing your sexist ideas. You think you can judge women as how well they represent their gender. You're not the one to be the judge of that. It's not a voting matter, either. What other women do or say is irrelevant. What I say is what you respond to, now, Menow. And I say that you're being sexist with your language.


Oh you blind one.

Not seeing the very real inequality means maintaining the inequality.
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Or she may be lying.


You're locked into an irrational ideological obsession and are completely disregarding individual human reality.

The difference between you and someone like Pol Pot is only a matter of degree not kind.

Or to put in other words you're being a major asshole.
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This is the post to which Clare draw pure adulterated bs. As if every reasonable argument should be wrong because there has to be a conspiracy. And as if every fake would prove that to be the case.

It's insane.
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?
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so who is the finnish zetatard??

isnt our self pleasuring ningtard, or either of the canadian idiots

dont tell me nancy has a finnish server as well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Oh yeah! Care to back that up with something, asshole? I thought not. You Nancy-is-everywhere believers are a laugh!





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