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I didn't mean literally by whom -- they are intelligence agents or co-opted or duped.



Who SPECIFICALLY is an intelligence agent, co-opted or duped?

Honor Elizabeth Wainio?

Her co-workers? Her friends? Her family?

Well, seeing as we can't subpoena them and those in the area to see if others "remember her" ... we cannot know EXCEPT that the person carrying the fake photos has to know something. And usually it's that person who is the only person in public about the "deceased".

Haha. Nancy is still falling for obvious traps. Here is a lie I posted on the ning to see if she would try to substantiate my claims or if the Zetas would decline to address. I mean they are all knowing, so they should be smart and in tune enough to know when someone is setting Nancy up to make a fool of herself. Well, as we know, she substantiates nothing before putting her foot in it, and the Zetas don't discern, because they don't exists outside her diseased mind:

Nancy I have lived in the same house for 30 years. The moon used to shine every night in my bedroom window, but not anymore. I don't know when it changed, but I noticed in March. I looked from the other rooms on my house and now I see the moon only in the bathroom in the window that looks south. My bedroom window is in the west. Is this normal or is it the pole shift. Thank you and the zetas for all you do!

And of course, this is what Nancy replied:
The Moon has had an erratic orbit since 2004 or so.

So then I asked another question in rebuttal:
Thank you Nancy, but I wonder why it didn't change before now if its been happening since 2004. I go to bed at the same time every night and the moon was always shining in my window when I got into bed. The change is only recent.

And of course, she replied with this:
Planet X came into our inner solar system in 2003, and has been creeping closer to us ever since, not outbound and has us in a grip before it. Thus, this influence on the Moon has steadily increased.

ROFLMAO. Now comments are closed for that "chat", but I'm sure one of her kooks will read this and I will be banned from the ning. Nancy Lieder, still making a fool of herself and proving Zetas can't even tell a real question from a trap.

No over the horizon . . . think bigger and more conspiratorial . . .

With a hell of a lot better chances of being noticed.

You are forgetting stealth . . . and terrain following technology . . . unless there were AWACS in the air it could have gotten through.



So now you posit a low radar cross section cruise missile with terrain mapping?

Was it invisible in the visible spectrum too? Remember stealth technology only works across a very narrow spectrum of wavelengths.

Got a slightest shred of reputable evidence for this latest brain fart?

One couldn't start from the biographies below and easily find hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and an irrefutable paper trail documenting the existence of Honor Elizabeth Wainio?


[link to www.post-gazette.com]

[link to www.unitedheroes.com]

[link to www.findagrave.com]


What kind of "detective" are you?

Oh, that's right, a watching-youtubes-in-the-basement-at-Moose-Piss-Acres detective.

What a tool.

Note the good intent of this work (and me, too!!):

This is the DISCLAIMER: We believe any possible casualties of 9/11 should be investigated. To this end, we ask anyone in possession of any evidence of real people disappearing to come forward. Because of the fraudulent reporting now standardized in the media, true testimonies are required from anyone connected to the events of 9/11. If you have such testimony please visit our page on recommended actions.

They care. They want the truth. So do I. Don't you? Come on, dear person. Wake up and brush aside the fakery in life.

One couldn't start from the biographies below and easily find hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and an irrefutable paper trail documenting the existence of Honor Elizabeth Wainio?

Note the good intent of this work (and me, too!!):

This is the DISCLAIMER: We believe any possible casualties of 9/11 should be investigated. To this end, we ask anyone in possession of any evidence of real people disappearing to come forward. Because of the fraudulent reporting now standardized in the media, true testimonies are required from anyone connected to the events of 9/11. If you have such testimony please visit our page on recommended actions.

They care. They want the truth. So do I. Don't you? Come on, dear person. Wake up and brush aside the fakery in life.



If I lost a loved one on 911, the last thing in the world I'd want to do was have any contact with you or any of your delusional associates.

Frankly, I'd be pissed off beyond belief at the above announcement and the other nonsense you've been spouting.

One couldn't start from the biographies below and easily find hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and an irrefutable paper trail documenting the existence of Honor Elizabeth Wainio?

Do you know anything about planted stories?

And do you know anything about lying witnesses?

Note the good intent of this work (and me, too!!):

This is the DISCLAIMER: We believe any possible casualties of 9/11 should be investigated. To this end, we ask anyone in possession of any evidence of real people disappearing to come forward. Because of the fraudulent reporting now standardized in the media, true testimonies are required from anyone connected to the events of 9/11. If you have such testimony please visit our page on recommended actions.

They care. They want the truth. So do I. Don't you? Come on, dear person. Wake up and brush aside the fakery in life.



If I lost a loved one on 911, the last thing in the world I'd want to do was have any contact with you or any of your delusional associates.

Frankly, I'd be pissed off beyond belief at the above announcement and the other nonsense you've been spouting.

Some are more honest.

Some have faced the level of crap the gov't traitors pulled.

We should have the real witnesses come forward. Real people have more than a news story about them and same-faced photos.

:))

You are thinking with your emotions. Think with your head AND THEN your emotions to reconcile it. It's ugly but it's there for you to see.

[link to septemberclues.info]

No over the horizon . . . think bigger and more conspiratorial . . .

With a hell of a lot better chances of being noticed.

You are forgetting stealth . . . and terrain following technology . . . unless there were AWACS in the air it could have gotten through.



So now you posit a low radar cross section cruise missile with terrain mapping?

Was it invisible in the visible spectrum too? Remember stealth technology only works across a very narrow spectrum of wavelengths.

Got a slightest shred of reputable evidence for this latest brain fart?

Anyone using a cruse missle to do the work we are talking about also knows other Stealth technologies . . .

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

AcousticsEarly stealth observation aircraft used slow-turning propellers to avoid being heard by enemy troops below. Stealth aircraft that stay subsonic can avoid being tracked by sonic boom. The presence of supersonic and jet-powered stealth aircraft such as the SR-71 Blackbird indicates that acoustic signature is not always a major driver in aircraft design, although the Blackbird relied more on its extremely high speed and altitude.

VisibilityThe simplest stealth technology is simply camouflage; the use of paint or other materials to color and break up the lines of the vehicle or person.

Most stealth aircraft use matte paint and dark colors, and operate only at night. Lately, interest on daylight Stealth (especially by the USAF) has emphasized the use of gray paint in disruptive schemes, and it is assumed that Yehudi lights could be used in the future to mask shadows in the airframe (in daylight, against the clear background of the sky, dark tones are easier to detect than light ones) or as a sort of active camouflage. The original B-2 design had wing tanks for a contrail-inhibiting chemical, alleged by some to be chlorofluorosulphonic acid[3], but this was replaced in the final design with a contrail sensor from Ophir that alerts the pilot when he should change altitude[20] and mission planning also considers altitudes where the probability of their formation is minimized.

InfraredAn exhaust plume contributes a significant infrared signature. One means of reducing the IR signature is to have a non-circular tail pipe (a slit shape) in order to minimize the exhaust cross-sectional volume and maximize the mixing of the hot exhaust with cool ambient air. Often, cool air is deliberately injected into the exhaust flow to boost this process. Sometimes, the jet exhaust is vented above the wing surface in order to shield it from observers below, as in the B-2 Spirit, and the unstealthy A-10 Thunderbolt II. To achieve infrared stealth, the exhaust gas is cooled to the temperatures where the brightest wavelengths it radiates on are absorbed by atmospheric carbon dioxide and water vapor, dramatically reducing the infrared visibility of the exhaust plume. [4] Another way to reduce the exhaust temperature is to circulate coolant fluids such as fuel inside the exhaust pipe, where the fuel tanks serve as heat sinks cooled by the flow of air along the wings.

Along with a number of other extremely well documented passengers.

You're as nutty as the poster who sees people having dinner parties on the moon in NASA photos.


Well documented? By whom?




[link to www.post-gazette.com]

[link to www.unitedheroes.com]

[link to www.findagrave.com]



You're really a disgusting creep. Just calling it the way it is.

I've been unfair and presumptuous in asking Clare to post pics when I have done no such thing.

So, in the interest of fairness, I give you my own image and likeness, for all to view:



IMAGE ( [link to i45.tinypic.com] )

No over the horizon . . . think bigger and more conspiratorial . . .

I didn't mean literally by whom -- they are intelligence agents or co-opted or duped.



Who SPECIFICALLY is an intelligence agent, co-opted or duped?
Honor Elizabeth Wainio?
Her co-workers? Her friends? Her family?

We must be well into many thousands of people that are all
keeping a perfect silence in her idea of this perfect conspiracy.

That just doesn't work. People talk, yet not a single one of
these people she claims are keeping silent has come forward.
That just doesn't add up, yet without the perfect silence her
claims fall to pieces.






I was just playing along with DrPostman . . . I have no real theory on any of the Pentagon. Except to say that was one heck of a lucky shot to hit the building a few feet off the ground.

Not when your intent is to crash into the side of a building.

One couldn't start from the biographies below and easily find hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and an irrefutable paper trail documenting the existence of Honor Elizabeth Wainio?

Do you know anything about planted stories?

And do you know anything about lying witnesses?


[link to www.post-gazette.com]

She had enjoyed a meteoric rise in the ranks of the Discovery Channel outlets, starting as a store manager in Baltimore two years earlier, becoming the top-performing regional manager in the 170-store chain, and then ascending to regional manager for New York and New Jersey

You don't think that the briefest of investigation into just this one aspect of her biography wouldn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she existed?

But of course, we couldn't expect you to stoop to that in your great "detective" work before tarnishing this woman's name on the internet.

No, a youtube video on "Vicsim Morphing" some kid chopped together in the basement is good enough for you.

You are thinking with your emotions. Think with your head AND THEN your emotions to reconcile it. It's ugly but it's there for you to see.

[link to septemberclues.info]


And you just aren't thinking. Honestly. September Clues? Alex Jones? YouTube videos? Super sleuth whistleblower you are not. Do governments and official sources lie? Of course, but there are just as many lies on the other extreme. You are trading one delusion for another, and in the process you disrespect people that have had their real lives turned upsidedown forever. The truth is always somewhere in between two extremes, and there are real things happening all around you, beyond your computer screen that you might be able to change or prevent if your attention wasn't wasted in futile pursuits.

Except the witnesses saw a large, commercial transport aircraft, not a cruise missile.

Guess that shoots down your hypothesis.

we tried actually talking to you clunk- and you were the one that didnt bother replying, page after page of your insane babbling instead so



Yes, that is true. And Clare totally ignored it. Hence, she's able to maintain false belief.

You're clearly not thinking at all now. Do some research and then get back to me.

We must be well into many thousands of people that are all
keeping a perfect silence in her idea of this perfect conspiracy.

That just doesn't work. People talk, yet not a single one of these people she claims are keeping silent has come forward.
That just doesn't add up, yet without the perfect silence her claims fall to pieces.

I've been unfair and presumptuous in asking Clare to post pics when I have done no such thing.

So, in the interest of fairness, I give you my own image and likeness, for all to view:



IMAGE ( [link to i45.tinypic.com] )



It was on Page 604, Clare.

Posting images here is easy. First, you open a free account at somewhere like tinypic (www.tinypic.com). Then ypou upload your images to that account, and you insert the link to the images here at GLP. At tinypic, after you upload anything, a box appears beside it labeled 'code to link from bulletin board, etc.' You just copy and past that code into your GLP post and viola, the image link appear to us.

I'm hurt that I haven't even been missed in 15 pages of furious arguing. Deeply hurt. Wounded, even.

I must now go cover myseklf in damp leaves and mope.

Hey Clare -- I just did something nice, to see what it felt like, and for a brief moment there the perpetual darkness that engulfs my heart lightened a bit.

Or maybe it was a mild arrhythmia. Either way, it wasn't nearly as horrible as I'd always imagined it would be.

I'm not going to claim I'm turning over any new leaves, but...

And what is that perfume you're wearing?

Aww.

Well, dear, I don't have much of a sense of smell, so I let my friends or partner pick them if I wear one.

And you?


I prefer the earthy yet unpretentious aroma of Hi Karate, mixed with a hint of light machine oil.

Actually I seldom wear cologne, as most of it sends me into sneezing fits and that is frowned upon at the opera.

What color are your eyes? Mine are blue, at least when they match.

And this is my summer home, from whence I post --


IMAGE ( [link to i49.tinypic.com] )

I've been unfair and presumptuous in asking Clare to post pics when I have done no such thing.

So, in the interest of fairness, I give you my own image and likeness, for all to view:



IMAGE ( [link to i45.tinypic.com] )

some (like Wanio) multiple (6) photos of the same face ...

Plus different people/faces with almost the same face, and only a few changes,