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At the risk of taking this thread back on topic, have you guys seen the relaunch status of the Zetasquawk page?Hilarious. Looks like the government is getting ready to launch a new campaign against Nancy. ROFLMAO.
[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

So you're saying because its launch is delayed, it's not a gov't site?

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putin

Why would the government bother with this lady?

For God's sake Clare...the woman claims the earth is halted in it's orbit...Aliens contacted her through a candy wrapper and now speak to her via a brain implant!

I'm speechless.
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Back to non-Clare business.

Ningcompoop watch:

When people finally ask reasonable questions, Nancy offers obvious bullshit, but they never challenge her on it. Example:

Question: Also when Planet X arrives, and since it generates its own heat, would it's 'yearly' passage by the sun mean it's summer time on planet x? How hot would it be?

Answer: And where things heat up during their passage by our Sun, it is a water planet and very shrouded so does not get to a boil during the passage.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]


But from that link, in direct reference to the question, is:

The passage through the Solar System is quick, occurring in a few short months [Note: see 2003 date explanation], so the combined warming from the Sun as well as the interior of the 12th Planet scarcely has a chance to begin before it ends. What warming that does occur simply results in more active winds.

The cited Zetatalk actually shows the fallacy of Nancy's claim that PX could hover near the Sun for 7 years with a living population on it. But will anyone at the Ning challenge the contradiction? Of course not.
 Quoting: Menow 992236

That's funny. I set a trap for her and made up a ludicrous story about the moon being way off. She answered that PX has been affecting the moon since 04. I said I only just noticed it, that before now the moon was hanging out in my bedroom window EVERY NIGHT (lol) for as long as I've lived here, but now I only see it in the bathroom, and I asked her why it hasn't moved around until now. The answer was that PX is still in it's "slow creep" past the sun. She can't keep her own bullshit straight and none of the ningcompoops dare point out these abundant self contradictions. It's pretty funny!
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Second, these are "family members" and in a memorial non-commented-upon bio, from 2003-2009 (and only 1 in that whole period), these family members would most likely be plants. Hey, look at the faces in the portrait the old people ("grandparents") are holding: pasted faces. Can't you tell?

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You are delusional or lying outright!

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing questionable about that photo…nothing that I could find on the surface or at the pixel level!

I’m somewhat embarrassed to say that I spent 3 years in my younger days working as a lab manager for a Photography Company. I spent about 5 hours a day working with Photoshop. We cleaned up acne on senior portraits…omitted “the finger” from group yearbook photos, you name it. You are wrong and it is either due to delusion or outright deceit. The only thing I noticed about that photo was that the parents were not smiling and being a parent myself, I think I know why. I have no respect for you and you deserve none.
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Back to non-Clare business.

Ningcompoop watch:

When people finally ask reasonable questions, Nancy offers obvious bullshit, but they never challenge her on it. Example:

Question: Also when Planet X arrives, and since it generates its own heat, would it's 'yearly' passage by the sun mean it's summer time on planet x? How hot would it be?

Answer: And where things heat up during their passage by our Sun, it is a water planet and very shrouded so does not get to a boil during the passage.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]


But from that link, in direct reference to the question, is:

The passage through the Solar System is quick, occurring in a few short months [Note: see 2003 date explanation], so the combined warming from the Sun as well as the interior of the 12th Planet scarcely has a chance to begin before it ends. What warming that does occur simply results in more active winds.

The cited Zetatalk actually shows the fallacy of Nancy's claim that PX could hover near the Sun for 7 years with a living population on it. But will anyone at the Ning challenge the contradiction? Of course not.

That's funny. I set a trap for her and made up a ludicrous story about the moon being way off. She answered that PX has been affecting the moon since 04. I said I only just noticed it, that before now the moon was hanging out in my bedroom window EVERY NIGHT (lol) for as long as I've lived here, but now I only see it in the bathroom, and I asked her why it hasn't moved around until now. The answer was that PX is still in it's "slow creep" past the sun. She can't keep her own bullshit straight and none of the ningcompoops dare point out these abundant self contradictions. It's pretty funny!
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Yeah, I saw that post. Your statement/question made no sense at all, since the Moon has NEVER been in the same place every night, but Nancy played it straight because she knew she could put it to good use.

Heh.
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that fake family in the news article who never put up a message on the memorial page in all those years -- till now, lol).



[link to www.legacy.com]

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Right. These stories are all from (i.e., actually written) AFTER 2009. What of that do you not understand? There WERE NONE TYPED IN except 1 from 2003 before people exposed this.

Now there are records SAYING the comments are from before 2009, and LOTS of them. BACK DATED> Do you get that?

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Plus TOO MANY perfect freeze-faces. Okay, one person maybe could have one freeze-face (almost, though not perfect like some of these people). And an almost-freeze-face could fool you once. But we have 50, 100 ...

And others with morph-faces.

And other names with no page at all. (Though they're updating that currently, I'm sure.)

And some, like the "Colaio"s had no memorial mentions until the spooks were caught. And then, whoops! A whole bunch (back dated) appear.

And I haven't even told you of the way we can know they did it: the generation of the Sim names by syllables which match and replicate into the next name, for name after name in the coding list. But that's coding. And the work to discover it is in progress by people who know that stuff in more detail. CNN split up the names in weird ways so it would be hard to sort alphabetically or numerically. However, you can understand the concept it even if you don't know the actual code writing.

Let's say (I'm making this one up as an example:

MARC CoLLIns
LYNN M. ARCher
ARroio LIMA [LI-MA}

and so on.
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code writing.

Let's say (I'm making this one up as an example:

MARC CoLLIns
LYNN M. ARCher
ARroio LIMA [LI-MA}

and so on.
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meds
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Second, these are "family members" and in a memorial non-commented-upon bio, from 2003-2009 (and only 1 in that whole period), these family members would most likely be plants. Hey, look at the faces in the portrait the old people ("grandparents") are holding: pasted faces. Can't you tell?



You are delusional or lying outright!

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing questionable about that photo…nothing that I could find on the surface or at the pixel level!

I’m somewhat embarrassed to say that I spent 3 years in my younger days working as a lab manager for a Photography Company. I spent about 5 hours a day working with Photoshop. We cleaned up acne on senior portraits…omitted “the finger” from group yearbook photos, you name it. You are wrong and it is either due to delusion or outright deceit. The only thing I noticed about that photo was that the parents were not smiling and being a parent myself, I think I know why. I have no respect for you and you deserve none.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850

Actually, that photo is so small (in our view) which they're holding you and I can't tell for certain. I'll gant you that much.

They do have perfect face-forward faces though. They could be models instead.

But the point is the men have to be fake. The shills watch the researcher sites -- and realized it DID sound ridiculous for 2 execs to have 1 mention from a Desiree frend, each. (Plus it showed from 2003.)

....................

Now move to the close-up photos. Have a look at those. Freeze faces over and over and over and over.

Some are iffy (perhaps real), but some cannot be and there are too many overall with no significant difference in them.

The rest are morph faces (go to black-white FDNY).

By the way, there was only 1 photo each for the Colaio brothers and so nothing to compare; and the faces for them seem fine. They're not up now, though.

The 2009 memorial site screen shot (from [link to septemberclues.info] and the page now without photos for them at [link to www.legacy.com] .

Don't get stuck on the Colaio front-forward small-image portrait in grandparents' hands. You can't see the faces in the portrait well either! I can tell it's likely with the front-forward faces for the brothers, they were stiff paste-ins like the rest. They could have been models. But their id. makes no sense -- like hundreds of others.
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Second, these are "family members" and in a memorial non-commented-upon bio, from 2003-2009 (and only 1 in that whole period), these family members would most likely be plants. Hey, look at the faces in the portrait the old people ("grandparents") are holding: pasted faces. Can't you tell?



You are delusional or lying outright!

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing questionable about that photo…nothing that I could find on the surface or at the pixel level!

I’m somewhat embarrassed to say that I spent 3 years in my younger days working as a lab manager for a Photography Company. I spent about 5 hours a day working with Photoshop. We cleaned up acne on senior portraits…omitted “the finger” from group yearbook photos, you name it. You are wrong and it is either due to delusion or outright deceit. The only thing I noticed about that photo was that the parents were not smiling and being a parent myself, I think I know why. I have no respect for you and you deserve none.

Actually, that photo is so small (in our view) which they're holding you and I can't tell for certain. I'll gant you that much.

They do have perfect face-forward faces though. They could be models instead.

But the point is the men have to be fake. The shills watch the researcher sites -- and realized it DID sound ridiculous for 2 execs to have 1 mention from a Desiree frend, each. (Plus it showed from 2003.)

....................

Now move to the close-up photos. Have a look at those. Freeze faces over and over and over and over.

Some are iffy (perhaps real), but some cannot be and there are too many overall with no significant difference in them.

The rest are morph faces (go to black-white FDNY).

By the way, there was only 1 photo each for the Colaio brothers and so nothing to compare; and the faces for them seem fine. They're not up now, though.

The 2009 memorial site screen shot (from [link to septemberclues.info] and the page now without photos for them at [link to www.legacy.com] .

Don't get stuck on the Colaio front-forward small-image portrait in grandparents' hands. You can't see the faces in the portrait well either! I can tell it's likely with the front-forward faces for the brothers, they were stiff paste-ins like the rest. They could have been models. But their id. makes no sense -- like hundreds of others.
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The cited Zetatalk actually shows the fallacy of Nancy's claim that PX could hover near the Sun for 7 years with a living population on it. But will anyone at the Ning challenge the contradiction? Of course not.
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There are hundreds of holes and contradictions in ZetaTalk. But, as you said, none of her brain dead followers question her on it. They simply believe whatever she tells them. If she ever does call for them to "drink the Kool Aid"...they'll happily do it.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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code writing.

Let's say (I'm making this one up as an example):

MARC CoLLIns
LYNN M. ARCher
ARroio LIMA [LI-MA}

and so on.


meds
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Nope. They've figured out how it was done. It's how they're bunched in name-groups in the coding to this day. Maybe now they'll scatter it.

Here you go -- ignore the work-in-progress beginning part.

Try to get a sense of the overview point before locking in on mistakes. The work here starts about how they found names at ALL in the mess of the pages, how hard it is to get photos for some which are removed identities ("page not found" but it was, once, a name), etc. And from the split-up info an the coding level -- the spooks named these photos DEAdheads (yup, that's their coding for them) ... some researchers have put together roughly how they do it.

When YOU read though since so many of you are HIGHLY PREJUDICED not merely against the idea but also the people who would do the work to figure out the hypothesis and face the evidence ... when you read then, EXTRACT the info, the gist: how many problems there are and what kinds. Don't get hung up on some mistake or individual inconclusive aspect, as I mentioned.

[link to septemberclues.info]

pp. 4-7, pp. 9-47 (this is where the name problem is discussed AND the "commenter" names, too, for memorial log books). The gist, the repeatable problems with exact similar types of problems are what you will notice.

The rest of the paper isn't that good -- as I said -- because though she shows the method for the photos, her examples are poorer than at [link to septemberclues.info]

And here is the list of names, which they foun very hard to extract (it is sub-divided and incomplete, and pages are missing, and the databank boots you out so you can't do the full searching -- it only searches part at a time).

[link to septemberclues.info]

The list has been changing slightly, though, it seems. So they ask anyone doing comparative research to keep track of when they got their results.
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The cited Zetatalk actually shows the fallacy of Nancy's claim that PX could hover near the Sun for 7 years with a living population on it. But will anyone at the Ning challenge the contradiction? Of course not.

There are hundreds of holes and contradictions in ZetaTalk. But, as you said, none of her brain dead followers question her on it. They simply believe whatever she tells them. If she ever does call for them to "drink the Kool Aid"...they'll happily do it.
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They seem unable to connect the dots or exercise any real discernment. They will cite astronomical things, like about planets being in certain places or proximity, but that is from standard, charts and predictions which would never really take place if Nancy's claim of a halted Earth was true. But, on the other hand, they won't question Nancy's claim of a halted Earth, at least enough to actually check it out with any valid methods.

It's an amazing collection of suspension of disbelief.
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Where is Returner?

"Spooking" about? Creaking around the corners?

:)
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Where is Returner?

"Spooking" about? Creaking around the corners?

:)
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Hey... I thought *I* was your special one... Now you like HIS attentive abuse better than mine? Slut.
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Ninging:

Nancy has now taken it into the realm where she can claim absolutely anything she desires and cover any contingency. It's pure magic, now, so anything goes. Katy bar the door!


Reply by Nancy Lieder

"Having said 7 of 10 by end of 2010, and having said at least one or more of those holographic presentation incidents will happen, they can say no more."
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Returner had an accident Saturday afternoon, and is still in a fair degree of pain. Just got in to work to do some things that must be done injuries or no. Head is still pretty fuzzy so you'll all forgive me if I'm not up to my usual rate of posting.
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Here's an example of names (p. 32 of [link to septemberclues.info] where the work is on-going but they've made some headway with what was done):

Ana M. Cen]teno
Denise Crant
Mary D'Antonio
Elizabeth Ann Darling
Elena Ledesma
Luis Jimenez Jr.
William Lum Jr.
Arthur Warren Scullin

and another from a different section of the databank (p. 31 of [link to septemberclues.info] ):

Rajesh Khandelwal
Richard J. Klares
Dorota Kopiczko
Hamidou S. Larry
Klaus Sprockamp

And on it goes.

Note: the names in the databank are NOT all in alphabetical order. The code had to be extracted (as I said).

And when you do find a bunch, they have same-morph syllables.

THE WHOLE THING FOR 9/11 IS IRREGULAR: the photos, the names, the "memorial tributes", etc. HIGHLY irregular.

And we already have the absolute proof of video fakery in NYC: parallax impossiblities.


So, the rest is just figuring out how they did it all exactly. And that's coming along.
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Clare, you did post pics! Thanks. You're very pretty.

Now give me some codeine.
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Here's an example of names (p. 32 of [link to septemberclues.info] where the work is on-going but they've made some headway with what was done):

Ana M. Cen]teno
Denise Crant
Mary D'Antonio
Elizabeth Ann Darling
Elena Ledesma
Luis Jimenez Jr.
William Lum Jr.
Arthur Warren Scullin

and another from a different section of the databank (p. 31 of [link to septemberclues.info] ):

Rajesh Khandelwal
Richard J. Klares
Dorota Kopiczko
Hamidou S. Larry
Klaus Sprockamp

And on it goes.

Note: the names in the databank are NOT all in alphabetical order. The code had to be extracted (as I said).

And when you do find a bunch, they have same-morph syllables.

THE WHOLE THING FOR 9/11 IS IRREGULAR: the photos, the names, the "memorial tributes", etc. HIGHLY irregular.

And we already have the absolute proof of video fakery in NYC: parallax impossiblities.


So, the rest is just figuring out how they did it all exactly. And that's coming along.
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awhore
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Returner had an accident Saturday afternoon, and is still in a fair degree of pain. Just got in to work to do some things that must be done injuries or no. Head is still pretty fuzzy so you'll all forgive me if I'm not up to my usual rate of posting.
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CRIPES!

SORRY TO HEAR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What happened? Rest up?! SOOO SOOORRRYY! Is it bad?

hf

I posted my pics. They're in a link a couple of pages back.

p. 621, 7:53 p.m.
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Returner had an accident Saturday afternoon, and is still in a fair degree of pain. Just got in to work to do some things that must be done injuries or no. Head is still pretty fuzzy so you'll all forgive me if I'm not up to my usual rate of posting.
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Sorry to hear that, palomine!

Get well soon, Returner!
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Where is Returner?

"Spooking" about? Creaking around the corners?

:)


Hey... I thought *I* was your special one... Now you like HIS attentive abuse better than mine? Slut.
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Oh you are, Menow. You are. If you want to be.

You never showed any interest, so how was I to know? In fact, you are filled with invective. How smart is that?

Of course, you'll say you were kidding anyway -- and maybe you are -- just baiting me. No?

Hey, dude -- if you do think I have a mind and heart after all, even with all you've said here against me I still offer you --

peace
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Will live. Result of my own stupidity. No broken bones, no internal vleeding aside from deep-tissue bruising.

In the battle of Man VS Tractor, man didn't so so well this time.
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Returner had an accident Saturday afternoon, and is still in a fair degree of pain. Just got in to work to do some things that must be done injuries or no. Head is still pretty fuzzy so you'll all forgive me if I'm not up to my usual rate of posting.



Sorry to hear that, palomine!

Get well soon, Returner!
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Oh sure. He's your pal but I'm your punching bag!

LOL!

Nice, "pal". What kind of pal could you be with that mouth of yours?

In-vec-tive ... not in-ven-tive. :)

Actually, Menow, you are. Remember that neat Shakespearean creation of a compound word you did some days back? And I was -- yup -- intelligent enough to appreciate it? Hm?

;;)

(That emoticon means batting eyelashes, if you didn't know.)

But "boycott" is still spelled with two ts. Ha ha ha
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Will live. Result of my own stupidity. No broken bones, no internal vleeding aside from deep-tissue bruising.

In the battle of Man VS Tractor, man didn't so so well this time.
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Hey, if you are alive after battling a tractor, you did well. Ask Merle Watson... Oh... you can't.. he lost the fight.

I HATE it when there is vleeding!
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Will live. Result of my own stupidity. No broken bones, no internal vleeding aside from deep-tissue bruising.

In the battle of Man VS Tractor, man didn't so so well this time.
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Oh crap-ola.

I am so happy to hear you're okay -- if not okay (in the other sense).

[And if anyone calls that sentence "clunky nonsensical" because the point of view switched, or "simply verbose gobbledygook" ----- or instead says again that points of view don't matter, I'm sending Bubba after you 'cause he has more sense than you! Ha ha ROTFLMAO]
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Where is Returner?

"Spooking" about? Creaking around the corners?

:)


Hey... I thought *I* was your special one... Now you like HIS attentive abuse better than mine? Slut.

Oh you are, Menow. You are. If you want to be.

You never showed any interest, so how was I to know? In fact, you are filled with invective. How smart is that?

Of course, you'll say you were kidding anyway -- and maybe you are -- just baiting me. No?

Hey, dude -- if you do think I have a mind and heart after all, even with all you've said here against me I still offer you --

peace
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You never showed a fur-hat pic before. Now I'm hooked.
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I HATE it when there is vleeding!
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You are charming sometimes Menow.

This is rather funny-charming.
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LOL vleeding, bleeding, hleeding -- I did it all. Lots of it, actually.

My Main Security Dog did realize something was wrong (must have been the bleeding and the screaming) and she actually bit the tractor. whicyh didn't do a lot of good but rates her a fresh new chew bone anyway.
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You never showed a fur-hat pic before. Now I'm hooked.
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Oh! ROTFLMAO

Yes, I love that hat. Not real fur though. :(

If you like the HAT so much, I'll send it to you. ;)
.......................

Did you only check out my (real, not fake) pics now? Hm. Interesting.
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Fetch the tractor, girl!





GLP