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"Clare" is no doubt unattractive and unaccomplished and craves the attention of men however she can get it.

Note the exchange with Returner.

She can't. She's got to be right about everything and the
whole world is wrong.

Now, what do you think of those (non-putative PX) NASA image problems. Are they controlling most images and sometimes getting the recreation wrong? Transmission errors wouldn't move whole planets only, and move them without edges (Venus), or make whole sections smudge out a planet, and looks like some background with it (Saturn). And there's cut-and-paste in some.

Maybe PX is there and our nice telescopes confuse it with a flare, but Nasa's covering it up?

Or maybe there are spy satellites going near and they are cutting planets out to cover. Very strange.

You question on satellite imaging is totally out of my league . . . I listen to both sides and beyond common sense I don't have a clue. Is there a coverup? I don't know.

Then why don't YOU fucking ****do**** that, Clare!?!?!



Because I know

You mean why does Nancy SAY that Saturn dissappears?

Nancy lies.


And why Venus -Venus in to the right- Venus?

Inconsistent motions.


You mean, why does Nancy SAY there are inconsistent motions?

Nancy lies.

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I did watch it. It's the usual Nancy crap. Seen it for 15 years.

Nancy lies.


Well, Menow, Nancy may or may not lie at times.

But IN THE IMAGES, then, who moved Saturn? Or did Nancy fake the images? One way or another, Saturn is there, is not, is there.

And then Venus is near the edge, is in from the edge, is near the edge.

Nancy "saying" it's so is meaningless unless you mean she faked the images. The images are all I'm dealing with. And the planets are moving about IN THOSE IMAGES.

So either Nancy moved them, or someone else did ... or some kind of weird compression? (Don't think so.)

Check again. Your prejudices are blinding you to the IMAGES.

She can't. She's got to be right about everything and the
whole world is wrong.

That's typical of all conspiracy theorists (aka woo-woos)...they're never wrong. Well, they like to pretend they aren't.

This Nancy sounds like a real fruitloop

But IN THE IMAGES,


the images?



the images.


The images


IN THOSE IMAGES.


the IMAGES

Well, Menow, Nancy may or may not lie at times.

But IN THE IMAGES, then, who moved Saturn? Or did Nancy fake the images? One way or another, Saturn is there, is not, is there.

And then Venus is near the edge, is in from the edge, is near the edge.

Nancy "saying" it's so is meaningless unless you mean she faked the images. The images are all I'm dealing with. And the planets are moving about IN THOSE IMAGES.

So either Nancy moved them, or someone else did ... or some kind of weird compression? (Don't think so.)

Check again. Your prejudices are blinding you to the IMAGES.



Fuck thyself, Clare.

But IN THE IMAGES,


the images?



the images.


The images


IN THOSE IMAGES.


the IMAGES


Funny how you have been asked to supply the original images, but have not.

Be fucking yourself, over and over, Clare.

Well, Menow, Nancy may or may not lie at times.

But IN THE IMAGES, then, who moved Saturn? Or did Nancy fake the images? One way or another, Saturn is there, is not, is there.

And then Venus is near the edge, is in from the edge, is near the edge.

Nancy "saying" it's so is meaningless unless you mean she faked the images. The images are all I'm dealing with. And the planets are moving about IN THOSE IMAGES.

So either Nancy moved them, or someone else did ... or some kind of weird compression? (Don't think so.)

Check again. Your prejudices are blinding you to the IMAGES.



Fuck thyself, Clare.


You didn't handle them, Menow. So it is your emotions about Nancy -- and now me -- which are getting in the way. I am sorry I called your behaviour wankery; you've done far worse to me but it was only to jostle you out of your resistance to the fact that THESE IMAGES ARE IMPOSSIBLE PHYSICALLY. Do you have any explanation OTHER than fakery, and if not, WHY and BY WHOM were they faked?

That stands. You dislike Nancy so much and believe it's lies (which is uncritical because many people don't know they're actually wrong, or believe it's unimportant if they are on major issues) ... but even if she lies THESE IMAGES MAKE NO SENSE>

so someone (Nancy?/Nasa?/Someone else?) had to do them?
or some computer glitch did them?

Or Saturn disappeared and also, not to be outdone, Venus went in one direction and for ONE FRAME went in a different direction, and then went back to its original point and continued.

So, fakery? If so, by whom? Your lying Nancy?

Computer problem? (I submit, no.)

Funny how you have been asked to supply the original images, but have not.

Be fucking yourself, over and over, Clare.

So, fakery? If so, by whom? Your lying Nancy?

Computer problem? (I submit, no.)



Gimme an F...!

Funny how you have been asked to supply the original images, but have not.

Be fucking yourself, over and over, Clare.




You said, Where are the images.

I said, On the Video. Now you're pretending like it's the originals you want.

Ha ha -- only on not looking, though. Because I try to be fair even to people who are annoying me, unlike you sometimes.

She can't. She's got to be right about everything and the
whole world is wrong.

That's typical of all conspiracy theorists (aka woo-woos)...they're never wrong. Well, they like to pretend they aren't.

many people don't know they're actually wrong

You can simply LOOK at the sky and see that Saturn and Venus are right where they belong. I should say that MOST people can, excluding YOU. You just want to wallow in this minutia and pack of transparant lies and drag others into doing so with you.

Nancy's claims are simply ridiculous, but you are too uneducated to know that.

It lends credibility to Zetatalk to 'debate' it, even when there is no real debate, ala Clare. Nothing but voluminous verbage with no real content. I repeat:

It lends credibility to Zetatalk to 'debate' it, even when there is no real debate, ala Clare. Nothing but voluminous verbage with no real content. I repeat:



Exactly. The claims of ZetaTalk are SO FUCKING STUPID that only the most cretinous of people could possibly take them even slightly seriously. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows there is no way they could be true.

Thus, proponents of ZetaTalk are either congenitally stupid, or trolls.

It is absurd to believe that the world's astronomers would not know that NASA was faking images of the sky.

Also, they argue with astronomers and claim that NASA are wrong?

Oh the hilarity!

Then work on your commas Clare. You sprinkle them atop your posts like nuts on ice cream.

Yes. It's not actually the commas, but rather the interspersing of sub clauses, which does that. I do think in complex sub clauses.

It is the pause-to-interject tendency of my writing which generates the commas and correctly so. It happens fine in speech, with tone shift. But where I place my commas is not grammatically incorrect.

Well, Menow, Nancy may or may not lie at times.

But IN THE IMAGES, then, who moved Saturn? Or did Nancy fake the images? One way or another, Saturn is there, is not, is there.

And then Venus is near the edge, is in from the edge, is near the edge.

And why is Venus not in the right spot to the edge?


Please be reasonable.
Clare

Dear scientist:

The faraway object would move. But remember, you are ALSO far away from the towers taking the shot.

PROPORTIONS of distances.
The damn server just ate my lengthy reply. Fuck it, the proportions are irrelevant, closer objects being tracked show less percent movement than far objects not being tracked, my video proved that. The distance from the chopper to the towers is not quantifiable with the evidence available and is irrelevant. Admit you were wrong.

Nope, Astronut.

It is not irrelevant.