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Catseye User ID: 1011546 Dominican Republic 06/22/2010 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads. Thoughts create, mind them well. |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: Catseyejust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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KeepingItReal User ID: 908953 Canada 06/22/2010 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It going to be one of many quittenings. She'll be back. Quoting: DrPostmanIf not as clunk, as someone else. I notice Freestore hasn't been around much lately. Is he being boycotted too, or did he invent some new sockpuppets to play with? Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since you are so worried about a Wainio reaction Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583So says the "expressive and caring" Canuck telephone solicitor. TELEPHONE SOLICITOR??? Tell us more! non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1011955 United Kingdom 06/22/2010 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: George Bjust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent. |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011955just what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent. What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't vote either. I religiously scroll past chemtrail threads. Quoting: Setheory 869850Yes, chemtrail threads are just exhausting. Yes, I guess we all 'get-up-in-the-air' about things like this! Last Edited by George B on 06/22/2010 03:58 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: George Bjust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent. What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process. Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals. But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no? non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Catseye User ID: 1011546 Dominican Republic 06/22/2010 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: George Bjust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Well, I ponder reality constantly, always have. And just knowing that certain people are more evil than I previously thought possible isn't really going to change my basic thoughts about what reality is. I thought we could at least fire Obama for some of the bullshit he's been pulling, but now it looks like he's going to "amnestize" a bunch of votes and keep himself in the Black House for a second term. :anger: Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads. Thoughts create, mind them well. |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: The Commentatorjust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent. What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process. Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals. But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no? It has been done over and over again . . . including the required Remote Temperature Soundings required for proper analysis. See below: To interpret what these measurements mean, it is often necessary to know the temperature not just at the aircraft altitude -- where the chemical measurements are made -- but above and below the aircraft as well. The reason for this is that the vertical temperature profile provides meteorological context for the in situ measurements. For example, it is important to know whether the aircraft is in the troposphere (the lowest part of the atmosphere) or in the stratosphere (the next highest region). Ozone (O3) normally has much higher abundances in the stratosphere than the troposphere because it is produced there. Similarly, carbon monoxide (CO) has much higher abundances in the troposphere than in the stratosphere, because that's where it's produced. If high O3 and low CO are seen, one might conclude that the aircraft is in the stratosphere. However, this condition can occur occasionly in the troposphere, and the only way to know for sure what the real situation is is to measure where the thermal tropopause is located, as this separates the troposphere from the stratosphere. To do this this we need to measure an altitude temperature profile. [link to mtp.jpl.nasa.gov] The point is it is a shell game . . . many of the persistent contrails morph into cirrus clouds as do the Chemtrials. Finding the needle in the haystack is not likely with the resources available to the Chemtrail Advocates. The authorities have the upper hand in this game . . . Advocate's evidence will come from multiple authoritative sources. Last Edited by George B on 06/22/2010 04:18 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, if we do have chemtrails, moon landing hoaxes, Planet X's flying around, fake dead people, planets that don't move like normal, a GOM flow that was on purpose and other fun things . . . Quoting: George Bjust what exactly are we supposed to do about it once we get confirmation beyond a reasonable doubt???? We rethink our reality . . . Or maybe you just need to think yours, because so far your 'evidence' has been lamentable and your proofs non-existent. What proofs are you talking about? If you are talking about the Chemtrails . . . I have not even begun the process. Which you will never complete because all that is required to retire the question is an in situ sample that contains your mythical chemicals. But actually doing science will just ruin the conspiracy game, no? It has been done over and over again . . . including the required Remote Temperature Soundings required for proper analysis. See below: To interpret what these measurements mean, it is often necessary to know the temperature not just at the aircraft altitude -- where the chemical measurements are made -- but above and below the aircraft as well. The reason for this is that the vertical temperature profile provides meteorological context for the in situ measurements. For example, it is important to know whether the aircraft is in the troposphere (the lowest part of the atmosphere) or in the stratosphere (the next highest region). Ozone (O3) normally has much higher abundances in the stratosphere than the troposphere because it is produced there. Similarly, carbon monoxide (CO) has much higher abundances in the troposphere than in the stratosphere, because that's where it's produced. If high O3 and low CO are seen, one might conclude that the aircraft is in the stratosphere. However, this condition can occur occasionly in the troposphere, and the only way to know for sure what the real situation is is to measure where the thermal tropopause is located, as this separates the troposphere from the stratosphere. To do this this we need to measure an altitude temperature profile. [link to mtp.jpl.nasa.gov] The point is it is a shell game . . . many of the persistent contrails morph into cirrus clouds as do the Chemtrials. Finding the needle in the haystack is not likely with the resources available to the Chemtrail Advocates. The authorities have the upper hand in this game . . . Advocate's evidence will come from multiple authoritative sources. If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: The CommentatorYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: George BYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: The CommentatorYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: George BYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere. Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry? Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: The CommentatorYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere. Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry? Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums. This is just a tease . . . I am not revealing my source or the rest of the research until the July Debate . . . :ChemTrail Bar Gr: Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: George BYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere. Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry? Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums. This is just a tease . . . I am not revealing my source or the rest of the research until the July Debate . . . It is only a tease if you know nothing about the presentation of data, if you do you find your picture is utterly worthless. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 06/22/2010 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope you have better examples than those at Arizona Skywatch and other such "chemtrail" sites. Here are some common errors made on those sites... [link to contrailscience.com] [link to contrailscience.com] |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope you have better examples than those at Arizona Skywatch and other such "chemtrail" sites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880Here are some common errors made on those sites... [link to contrailscience.com] [link to contrailscience.com] I sure do . . . I do not use them at all. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't look, you will never find. But finding ruins the game so none of the chemtards cares enough about reality to look. Quoting: The CommentatorYou might be surprised at how sophisticated the Advocates are getting . . . wait until the Debate/Trial in July. Unless you have REAL data from an in situ sample I can pass. Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. How about extensive scientific research sampling residual elements from biological sources that cannot be accounted for by any other means except deposition from the atmosphere. Research performed by whom? Some chemtard that flunked high school chemistry? Unless and until you have in situ samples you are just flapping your gums. This is just a tease . . . I am not revealing my source or the rest of the research until the July Debate . . . It is only a tease if you know nothing about the presentation of data, if you do you find your picture is utterly worthless. I have the data and the entire scientific research monograph . . . it will be on point and will validate what I am suggesting. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Science is not run on a consensus basis. Concensus is a political concept, and politics and science are not interchangeable. Quoting: The CommentatorThat is true except when politics infringes upon Science . . . See Below: NASA Sued in Court by CEI for Hiding Data In truth, the passing of time is showing that NASA has stooped to break the law to stop anyone seeing what their “full surface energy balance equation” is-if it exists. We know this because the space agency has defied all such Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests from the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) for several years. The ongoing scandal has been dubbed NASA-Gate. CEI is now taking NASA to court for refusing to permit independent auditors the chance to assess the reliability of both government-funded science as well as the validity of current U.S. Administration’s expensive green energy policies. At a minimum, NASA-gate raises serious questions about competency and the integrity of certain government space agency employees. Dr. Curry’s final words: “I'm contacting NASA about this.” Reference: Trenberth, K.E., J.T. Fasullo, and J. Kiehl, 2009: Earth’s Global Energy Budget. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Vol 90, No 3, pp 311–323. NASA Charged in New Climate Fakery: Greenhouse Gas Data Bogus Shock new evidence of a NASA scientist faking a fundamental greenhouse gas equation shames beleaguered space administration in new global warming fraud scandal. Caught in the heat are NASA's Dr. Judith Curry and a junk science equation by the space agency’s Dr. Gavin Schmidt creating disarray over a contentious Earth energy graph. The internal row was ignited by the release of a sensational new research paper discrediting calculations crucial to the greenhouse gas theory. [link to climaterealists.com] Last Edited by George B on 06/22/2010 06:01 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is only a tease if you know nothing about the presentation of data, if you do you find your picture is utterly worthless. Quoting: The CommentatorIf I don't have the original source material I do not use it . . . the sources will be verified and the reader will be able to validate the source, authority and credentials of the researcher. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 969583 United States 06/22/2010 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since you are so worried about a Wainio reaction Quoting: The CommentatorSo says the "expressive and caring" Canuck telephone solicitor. TELEPHONE SOLICITOR??? Tell us more! Somebody outed her as a phone solicitor many pages ago and she more or less acknowledged it. |
Setheory User ID: 869850 United States 06/22/2010 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since you are so worried about a Wainio reaction Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583So says the "expressive and caring" Canuck telephone solicitor. TELEPHONE SOLICITOR??? Tell us more! Somebody outed her as a phone solicitor many pages ago and she more or less acknowledged it. I miss her verbal gymnastics already. <embarrassed> I think I actually do…WTF? |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 06/22/2010 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since you are so worried about a Wainio reaction Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969583So says the "expressive and caring" Canuck telephone solicitor. TELEPHONE SOLICITOR??? Tell us more! Somebody outed her as a phone solicitor many pages ago and she more or less acknowledged it. Since I basically stopped reading the spamage and trollage from clunk I missed that. Thanks for the pointer! non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 946069 United States 06/22/2010 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web. Quoting: George BI don't do polls on GLP anymore because people don't vote honestly. Many know what answer you're looking for and vote the opposite and some have dynamic IP addresses allowing them to vote over and over, thereby tainting the results. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
KeepingItReal User ID: 908953 Canada 06/22/2010 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web. Quoting: Circuit BreakerI don't do polls on GLP anymore because people don't vote honestly. Many know what answer you're looking for and vote the opposite and some have dynamic IP addresses allowing them to vote over and over, thereby tainting the results. Same here. And I never go to chemtard threads. Every nutty subject has it's own brand of tards and debunkers. I have more fun debunking the 2012ers and poleshift tards. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
George B Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 976283 United States 06/22/2010 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well . . . yes . . . I did. I thought there was a healthy number of debunkers out there as well. However, I think there are more reasons for this than the fact this is a conspiracy web. Quoting: Circuit BreakerI don't do polls on GLP anymore because people don't vote honestly. Many know what answer you're looking for and vote the opposite and some have dynamic IP addresses allowing them to vote over and over, thereby tainting the results. Interesting . . . so no polls on GLP are valid? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |