Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.

Just to get some PX in here, did anyone notice how Nancy was able to weasel out of the thread she did on here announcing Venus being out of place because she didn't understand the placement of stereo ahead? Did she ever admit that was Venus or did she just let the thread die?

This thread?
Thread: Venus Excentricity – Something Wrong?

Yea, after Nancy declared that she goaded Astronut into
exposing her error she abandoned the thread.







A recent thought I had is that there is yet another thing
that separates us from the bunkers. No one so far has gloated
that the debunker boycott ran Nancy off. It's the kind of
logic the bunkers would claim if it had been the other way
around.

This is the first time in almost 2 months since she left
that the idea that we had an effect on her departure has
even been mentioned, IIRC.

I haven't dove into the chemtrail thing, it just sounds too ridiculous, there are other more pressing problems that I know much more about. But I still don't get how knowing about chemtrails is going to solve anything. If TPTB are responsible, then it's a lost cause. If there's no solution, why waste time on it? Is someone trying to prove that TPTB (US gov't or whatever) are really the bad guys? Well, we already know that.

Just to get some PX in here, did anyone notice how Nancy was able to weasel out of the thread she did on here announcing Venus being out of place because she didn't understand the placement of stereo ahead? Did she ever admit that was Venus or did she just let the thread die?

I cannot remember the Moon being 'stopped' in the sky for 2 hours ever.

That's because it didn't happen.

I attribute the two events to the wobble the Zetas have mentioned from Planet X caused magnetic and particle fields. But really why can't other people notice these things?

This is soooo funny; the answer is right in front of their faces yet they don't see it. People like myself don't notice these things because "these things" are not happening! They honestly think they're the only ones who notice even as thousands of amateur astronomers watch the skies? They're even admitting how ridiculous that is to themselves, yet they refuse to wake up!
They are there for all to see, so why don't they? Are we so far from knowing about nature that we do not notice these things as a 'modern' world?

It's sadly ironic. They think they're the only enlightened ones and everyone else is just ignorant. It's as if the whole of amateur astronomy doesn't exist to these people. They're so far removed from being astronomically educated that they don't even know how to properly note and measure the position of the moon.

I have an account on the ning that I've not used as I know my first post is going to get me banned. I was going to save it for 2012 so that I can gloat, but the opportunity here is just too rich. I think what I'll do is post a link to an astronomy broadcast where I end up showing that the moon, sun, etc are all where they should be after stating that I'm "looking for evidence that things are out of place." I'm sure Nancy will ban me and take down the post as soon as she sees it, but maybe I can plant a seed of doubt into some of her followers before then.

The posters seem to feel their observations are real . . . I don't see how they can validate them . . .

They feel their observations are real, which is very different from knowing what's normal and being able to show that they are observing something out of the ordinary. They can't validate them because they simply aren't true. Anyone with a minimum of understanding of how the lunar cycle works can however validate that the moon is doing what it always has done. If the moon was behaving strangely, the lunar eclipse at the end of June and the upcoming July 11th solar eclipse could not occur.

There was another thread entitled "the earth has tilted" where people gave their varying accounts of why they believe this. Usually it had to do with the positions of shadows and reflections in new places in their homes and yards. Since the sun and moon charts are still all accurate then the other obvious explanation is that either their structure has settled and moved slightly or the land that it rests on has shifted - we know land moves around a bit.

Just to get some PX in here, did anyone notice how Nancy was able to weasel out of the thread she did on here announcing Venus being out of place because she didn't understand the placement of stereo ahead? Did she ever admit that was Venus or did she just let the thread die?

This thread?
Thread: Venus Excentricity – Something Wrong?

Yea, after Nancy declared that she goaded Astronut into
exposing her error she abandoned the thread.







A recent thought I had is that there is yet another thing
that separates us from the bunkers. No one so far has gloated
that the debunker boycott ran Nancy off. It's the kind of
logic the bunkers would claim if it had been the other way
around.

This is the first time in almost 2 months since she left
that the idea that we had an effect on her departure has
even been mentioned, IIRC.



HAHAHAHA!!!
Well, that wasn't the post I meant, the one I was talking about had "Venus out of place" and maybe something about Mercury being missing in the title. But thanks for showing me this one, that was hilarious! Especially where she thanks "Astronutty" for being goaded into "it", something mysterious that she conveniently didn't mention. Probably because it was more mystery that only her fans could appreciate. Astronut was also on the "Venus out of place thread" and basically, the same thing happened. He proved her wrong, she argued about it for awhile, trying to address different points, but I don't remember the ending exactly. It was probably similar to the above, something like she thanked Astronut for being a paid gov't shill and asked him how he could live with himself.

I do remember in the Venus out of place thread, though, that she was eyeballing the stereo ahead diagram depicting the position of Venus and claiming Venus should be on the other side of the sun whereas anyone else eyeballing it could see that it was exactly where it was supposed to be. So she either just lied to make it her explanation or she's lacking in some very basic cognitive skills. I wonder how her driving record looks? Or if she drives at all? After all, lots of eyeballing skills are necessary when you're driving . . .


or maybe she's just a passenger . . .

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .



You really don't know the square root of squat about the atmosphere, do you, skippy?

And, how do you know the relative altitudes of the aircraft? Do you read Mode C signals? Did you do a two station optical track to determine their altitude? Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .



You really don't know the square root of squat about the atmosphere, do you, skippy?

And, how do you know the relative altitudes of the aircraft? Do you read Mode C signals? Did you do a two station optical track to determine their altitude? Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

You are correct!

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .



You really don't know the square root of squat about the atmosphere, do you, skippy?

And, how do you know the relative altitudes of the aircraft? Do you read Mode C signals? Did you do a two station optical track to determine their altitude? Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

You are correct!



So you just pulled it out of your ass?

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .



You really don't know the square root of squat about the atmosphere, do you, skippy?

And, how do you know the relative altitudes of the aircraft? Do you read Mode C signals? Did you do a two station optical track to determine their altitude? Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

You are correct!



So you just pulled it out of your ass?

Visual only . . . that is what I said. Sorry I have to go to supper with friends. Talk later!

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .


"In" and "near" are two very different things.

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .


"In" and "near" are two very different things.



I think we ought to treat george the same way we treat maxibridget, luser or clunk: Ignore him completely.

By the way... the ones most guilty of constant personal attacks have actually been the ones promoting the various conspiracy theories. I suspect that you, too, will resort to that sort of thing when you have your ass handed to you on the chemtrail debate thread.

BTW . . . your whole position on Chemtrail and or Contrails was indefensible. The is no reason in theory or application where contrails/chemtrails cannot be visible in one horizontal layer of atmosphere and can be visible or not visible in layers above or below (like a sandwich) . . . the exact thing I observed and noted for which you called me a liar. If you think otherwise you need to do some research.



As far as I remember, I made no such assertion. You're reaching, George.

the lower one the higher one then another higher aircraft no one will convince me otherwise.In spite of what YOU just wrote!Meaning the chemtrail was sandwiched between two regular contrails. It is highly unlikely there were three different humidity layers within the same column of air. Not impossible but unlikely. Almost every time I have observed what I consider to be chemtrails or persistent contrails I have seen normal contrails being left by aircraft in or near the same altitude and proximity.
 Quoting: George B

Bullshit. Outright lie
Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 576)
I am on my way to my Thread . . . I will return when I can . . .


"In" and "near" are two very different things.



I think we ought to treat george the same way we treat maxibridget, luser or clunk: Ignore him completely.

I think we ought to treat george the same way we treat maxibridget, luser or clunk: Ignore him completely.

Whatcha gonna do when all the posters have gone elsewhere, just like you wished, oh you bunch of "debunkers"? What's gonna happen to your glorious thread, then?

The Zeta shit will be wrong until Nancy dies.

You obviously haven't read it with an open mind.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. Way to be STS cheryle show them bad boys how to do it right! Supposedly this little jewel was written by Nancy Leider herself about why Cherly ran away..

"Yes I can tell you. She left in a huff because she could not run Gerard's ning as she had ambitions to do, was angry when there were differences of opinion on how Gerard's ning should be run and she did not accept his decisions.

She was also increasingly jealous of the attention and membership my presence attracted, from private email to Gerard which I am not at liberty to share. There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that? The more ZetaTalk fans arrived at Gerard's ning, the greener Cheryl became.

There are also claims by a fan of Cheryl's, floating about on email, that she is concerned about the public, their education, above all. I would point out that when she left she deleted ALL her blogs, as this was her decision. This included the very popular S America Roll blog that had over 100 pages of comments from perhaps 100 individuals, observations and research, all lost. She also deleted something she was so proud of, having bragged about it openly just within this past month, her 500th blog on Earth changes. All this is gone, because she is supposedly interested in educating the public.

Then there is the fact that on her new ning she demands that the public join before reading! This is not to educate the public, as Gerard's ning has always been, but to pump her membership numbers up, solely. Why else restrict the public from the information?"

ShaZAM!

I think we ought to treat george the same way we treat maxibridget, luser or clunk: Ignore him completely.


Whatcha gonna do when all the posters have gone elsewhere, just like you wished, oh you bunch of "debunkers"? What's gonna happen to your glorious thread, then?

Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. Way to be STS cheryle show them bad boys how to do it right! Supposedly this little jewel was written by Nancy Leider herself about why Cherly ran away..

"Yes I can tell you. She left in a huff because she could not run Gerard's ning as she had ambitions to do, was angry when there were differences of opinion on how Gerard's ning should be run and she did not accept his decisions.

She was also increasingly jealous of the attention and membership my presence attracted, from private email to Gerard which I am not at liberty to share. There is angry email floating about from a fan of Cheryl's that claim I was jealous of her, but looking at my outreach (TV and radio appearances, international fame and translations done, etc) who would believe that? The more ZetaTalk fans arrived at Gerard's ning, the greener Cheryl became.

There are also claims by a fan of Cheryl's, floating about on email, that she is concerned about the public, their education, above all. I would point out that when she left she deleted ALL her blogs, as this was her decision. This included the very popular S America Roll blog that had over 100 pages of comments from perhaps 100 individuals, observations and research, all lost. She also deleted something she was so proud of, having bragged about it openly just within this past month, her 500th blog on Earth changes. All this is gone, because she is supposedly interested in educating the public.

Then there is the fact that on her new ning she demands that the public join before reading! This is not to educate the public, as Gerard's ning has always been, but to pump her membership numbers up, solely. Why else restrict the public from the information?"

ShaZAM!

Poleshift ning vs earthchanges ning. Dingding


So Cherly left the ningtards and started her own ningtard gang with the group that does nothing but gossip among themselves. .............