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Simple answer: Zetasquawk should repost the more interesting Ning posts...
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But we still have to discuss them here without quoting anything?
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All of the current Zetatalk being generated originates on Nancy's ning. Are we now not supposed to quote any new Zetatalk? Is it just the bits that are "blogs" which are off-limits?

??
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Unfortunately for the complainers, Freaky and Max, we are still
going to be able to discuss the meltdown and catfight between
the nings on this thread. Try as they might to shut us up they
only end up making things look worse for them.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Free and open discussions really seem to piss maxibridget and freaky off. Fuck em!
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Simple answer: Zetasquawk should repost the more interesting Ning posts...
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That's what I intend to do within legal bounds.

It would appear, however, that the pissing match between pole and earth is private on pole and public on earth.

Any hints of the feud on poleshift are immediately deleted once Gerard or any of the other mods sees them.

Currently I'm trying to find a better template for the front end of zetasquawk - haven't found anything I like yet and I have no desire to build one from scratch (I'm not good with CSS coding) and I have a profitable after-work project that is occupying my time.
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Wanted to make sure you didn't miss it.
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

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As we get closer to the end of 2011 and Nancy's self claimed drop-dead date, it will be interesting to see her last few followers imploding because they are FINALLY coming to the realization that they have been had.
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Why would Trinity agree to that kind of restriction just because someone whined about it? Nancy's ning is completely open to the public and anyone can join the other one, as far as I can tell.

The babies know that Trinity has been dealing with lots
of legal issues having to do with articles published here
and saw an opportunity to pile on and took it. The complaint
wasn't from Nancy Cheryl or Gerard. Part of the complaint
says that we "caused great dissention and turmoil on our
website" and then went on to claim that Cheryl would be
contacting Trinity as well. Cheryl hasn't and we know that
claiming we caused anything on their ning is bullshit because
they wouldn't allow anything that is even slightly bothersome
to stay posted.

With all the problems he's had lately I don't want him bothered
further, so no more posting whole articles over here from
either ning. Links are fine, just as they are for news
articles (I actually like the way we do the GLP News Section
now). As far as us causing any distention on either ning
I haven't seen it. All I've seen is a petty pissing match
between both nings that we have nothing to do with. The ONLY
thing I posted to either ning was a thank you for welcoming
me. I'm still a member of Cheryl's ning.

But that's all we can expect from these creeps is to create
lies to try to bother us with. They continue to fail and
the fight between Nancy and Cheryl isn't going away any time
soon. None of us debunkers have a damned thing to do with
that. What is funny is that the complainer is someone who
is pissed off at both nings.





All of the current Zetatalk being generated originates on Nancy's ning. Are we now not supposed to quote any new Zetatalk? Is it just the bits that are "blogs" which are off-limits?

??

To keep them from having any ammunition we should paraphrase
and link. That way they can't say a damned thing. It's
a sad last ditch attempt to shut us up that has only served
to make them look petty and vengeful. They have to lie in
order to make a complaint look more valid. I have no doubt
that either Max or Freaky is the one who contacted the person
who complained in order to stir shit up. That's on them and
I hope they stew in it. They probably expected more to be
done than just a few posts removed.
 Quoting: DrPostman


That's just bizarre. How could we, at GLP, cause problems over there unless it was someone there reacting badly to something they saw posted here? And if it caused dissention there, how is that our fault? It just doesn't make any sense.
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Ohh... and someone said that Cheryl hadn't copywrited the content of her ning. If so, how can anyone object to use of that content?
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Nancy sounds seriously stressed, probably because she's about to run out of excuses. She doesn't look too healthy, either. She better calm herself down before she has a heart attack.



At best she only has till 2012 anyway, after that, I don't think her "exscuses" will be worth even listening to at that point for any of the believers she may have left at that point.
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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

sheeplebah
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They are all fake dates because it is a fake planet, and NL is a fake too.
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Saving it here before Nancy gets on it an deletes the thread:

I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]
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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

sheeplebah
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Nancy says that it will be BEFORE 2012. IS she wrong?
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As we get closer to the end of 2011 and Nancy's self claimed drop-dead date, it will be interesting to see her last few followers imploding because they are FINALLY coming to the realization that they have been had.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880

There will be no "implosion". I am a FENCE SITTER. Therefore I am EQUALLY prepared for nothing to happen.

onfence
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Saving it here before Nancy gets on it an deletes the thread:


I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1054565


Note this recent photo underwent extensive examination to determine if it was a PhotoShot job, and it was determined it was not. Digital images are encoded, and if worked in an application such as PhotoShot include a color pallete. There is other evidence, such as dissonance in the pixels, when changes to dpi are done, for instance. Here are the comments made during this analysis, and the examination results provided. Below is the enhanced version, which invariably shows doctoring and does not, and the 4-bit conversion, likewise sailing through as an undoctored photo:
Don (Analyst 2) "Jezz, you didn't take this with a digital camera, did you? I too noticed, after Waveguide (Analyst 1) pointed it out, that it references Adobe Photoshop C3..... and no camera name, model #, etc. Also, it's saved at 72 dpi, which indicates it probably was not shot with a digital. The 10-day time frame would account for developing the film and then scanning it. Am I right? I do know that some folks might look askance at the info in "Properties", as Waveguide points out." [and from another] Jezz (Photographer) The photo was taken with a non digital 15 year old 35mm camera. I took them to drugstore developer to be made into a disc. My husband uploaded it for me, I have no idea how to that.He said he ran the pics through photo shop to reduce them in size, red eye reduction and what not. Does that help any?" [and from another] Morris (Analyst 3) "This analysis has converted the photo to 4-bit and shows the consistency of the photo."

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

Too bad Nancy's own words condemn her. Or are you trying to
set things up to help her not look so bad after making all
these many statments: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Face it Andrew, things are starting to fall apart and when
2012 passes only you and a couple of others who lack the
capacity for self honesty will continue to hold one to her
claims. You support a lie, an admitted "White" lie, and you
are now trying to claim that all those statements about 2012
are lies too? It's really sad that you can't see how lying
hurts Nancy.
 Quoting: DrPostman


2012 has ANY meaning only to YOU

which is of no concern to me
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Saving it here before Nancy gets on it an deletes the thread:


I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]



Note this recent photo underwent extensive examination to determine if it was a PhotoShot job, and it was determined it was not. Digital images are encoded, and if worked in an application such as PhotoShot include a color pallete. There is other evidence, such as dissonance in the pixels, when changes to dpi are done, for instance. Here are the comments made during this analysis, and the examination results provided. Below is the enhanced version, which invariably shows doctoring and does not, and the 4-bit conversion, likewise sailing through as an undoctored photo:
Don (Analyst 2) "Jezz, you didn't take this with a digital camera, did you? I too noticed, after Waveguide (Analyst 1) pointed it out, that it references Adobe Photoshop C3..... and no camera name, model #, etc. Also, it's saved at 72 dpi, which indicates it probably was not shot with a digital. The 10-day time frame would account for developing the film and then scanning it. Am I right? I do know that some folks might look askance at the info in "Properties", as Waveguide points out." [and from another] Jezz (Photographer) The photo was taken with a non digital 15 year old 35mm camera. I took them to drugstore developer to be made into a disc. My husband uploaded it for me, I have no idea how to that.He said he ran the pics through photo shop to reduce them in size, red eye reduction and what not. Does that help any?" [and from another] Morris (Analyst 3) "This analysis has converted the photo to 4-bit and shows the consistency of the photo."

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: andrew



From one who uses Photoshop daily, that is all complete bullshit.
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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

Too bad Nancy's own words condemn her. Or are you trying to
set things up to help her not look so bad after making all
these many statments: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Face it Andrew, things are starting to fall apart and when
2012 passes only you and a couple of others who lack the
capacity for self honesty will continue to hold one to her
claims. You support a lie, an admitted "White" lie, and you
are now trying to claim that all those statements about 2012
are lies too? It's really sad that you can't see how lying
hurts Nancy.


2012 has ANY meaning only to YOU

which is of no concern to me
 Quoting: andrew



It certainly has meaning to Nancy, or she wouldn't have made the claims that she's now having to back up on. Just another out of a long string of LIES.

Andrew, you are SO gullible.
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Saving it here before Nancy gets on it an deletes the thread:


I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]



Note this recent photo underwent extensive examination to determine if it was a PhotoShot job, and it was determined it was not. Digital images are encoded, and if worked in an application such as PhotoShot include a color pallete. There is other evidence, such as dissonance in the pixels, when changes to dpi are done, for instance. Here are the comments made during this analysis, and the examination results provided. Below is the enhanced version, which invariably shows doctoring and does not, and the 4-bit conversion, likewise sailing through as an undoctored photo:
Don (Analyst 2) "Jezz, you didn't take this with a digital camera, did you? I too noticed, after Waveguide (Analyst 1) pointed it out, that it references Adobe Photoshop C3..... and no camera name, model #, etc. Also, it's saved at 72 dpi, which indicates it probably was not shot with a digital. The 10-day time frame would account for developing the film and then scanning it. Am I right? I do know that some folks might look askance at the info in "Properties", as Waveguide points out." [and from another] Jezz (Photographer) The photo was taken with a non digital 15 year old 35mm camera. I took them to drugstore developer to be made into a disc. My husband uploaded it for me, I have no idea how to that.He said he ran the pics through photo shop to reduce them in size, red eye reduction and what not. Does that help any?" [and from another] Morris (Analyst 3) "This analysis has converted the photo to 4-bit and shows the consistency of the photo."

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: andrew



Andrew, just look at the original picture which is linked to here...

[link to www.livingbeing.com]

It is an OBVIOUS Photoshop job.

And it's PHOTOSHOP, not Photoshot.

PX...one lie after another.
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Right at the end of this vid is Nancy affirming the "Zeta" statement that the poleshift will occur before 2012. Maybe someone should preserve this vid somewhere for future reference.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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hehe,
2012 is a FAKE date and we all know it!

Too bad Nancy's own words condemn her. Or are you trying to
set things up to help her not look so bad after making all
these many statments: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Face it Andrew, things are starting to fall apart and when
2012 passes only you and a couple of others who lack the
capacity for self honesty will continue to hold one to her
claims. You support a lie, an admitted "White" lie, and you
are now trying to claim that all those statements about 2012
are lies too? It's really sad that you can't see how lying
hurts Nancy.


2012 has ANY meaning only to YOU

which is of no concern to me
 Quoting: andrew


No Andrew... it has meaning to "Zetas", who have stated repeatedly that the poleshift will take place BEFORE that date.
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Emphasis mine.

ZetaTalk: Differing Prophecies, written Oct 15, 1996.
ZetaTalk, being exacting and specific, comes in for a lot of heat where it differs from other prophecies. The given date of 2003 [for the arrival of Planet X into the inner solar system] does not line up with what some have interpreted the Mayan calendar to read, and we, the Zetas, are asked to explain this. We are correct in our date as it is based on the steady pace and known placement of Planet X, and we are not mistaken. Some have interpreted prophecies that state that cataclysms will occur when the millennium ends to mean the exact last day of 1999, or perhaps some where within the year 2,000 but not thereafter. They wish precision, and demand that we reconcile our dates with every other date speculated by anyone who calls themselves a prophet or claims to have insight into what ancient prophecies might have meant.
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For the collection:

[link to zetatalk.com]

As we have stated, anyone willing to claim that the nearest date for a catastrophe will be December 21, 2012 and no sooner, is wined and dined and not harassed.
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Also on same page:

[link to zetatalk.com]

In time, our statement on this matter will be proven correct. But for the present, the 2012 crowd can sell their books and videos and strut about on stage.
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Still same page:

[link to zetatalk.com]

Last week the Zetas admitted they erred in guessing that the "6" would come by the end of the 2008 calendar year. Can they explain how this "mistake" came to be made, and why we shouldn't believe they may have made a similar mistake about the 2012 calendar year?


There is a broad difference between predicting the impact of an uptick in Earth changes, sociological changes, economic downturn, and weather irregularities during the course of a 9 month period and our general statement about 2012. We are currently starting 2009, which leaves the possibility of the pole shift potentially not occurring for 3 years. Or perhaps it will only be 6 months or so. It's a matter of being able to hit a broad target or needing to hit a narrow target. The statement "prior to 2012" only requires us to aim at a broad target. However, the statement "by the end of 2008" is a narrow window.
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Trying to find the earlies reference to the "Before 2012" claim. This from August 23, 2008


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The Zetas said that the pole shift will happen before 2012. Is the long count Mayan calendar pointing out to when the next passage of Planet X and pole shift will happen? But humans just miscalculated the date? If not, is there anything significant about 2012?


2012 was a miscalculation, as we have detailed. In their attempts to align the Gregorian and Mayan calendars, they failed at the start, setting off on the wrong foot. We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012.
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March 9, 2008:

This is under the heading "Planet X disinfo"

The YOWUSA website, which espouses the 2012 date for the passage, went wild with speculation on the matter.
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written September 29, 2007 on the GodlikeProduction live chat.

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2012 is the approved date, as time-wise it is so far out and everyone mentions the Mayan calendar without going into detail as to how the date was derived, which was a guess.
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 38, Sunday August 26, 2007

We have stated that 2012 is not the date,that the pole shift will occur before that year.
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Right at the end of this vid is Nancy affirming the "Zeta" statement that the poleshift will occur before 2012. Maybe someone should preserve this vid somewhere for future reference.

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Good catch. Andrew, what do YOU say?
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Don't know if we have this one already.



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written Jun 23, 2007 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

2012 is not the date, as we have stated, as the Mayan calendar was not lined up correctly with the Gregorian. The pole shift will happen sooner than 2012.





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