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I agree, Gerard will be the new high priestess...priest. Maybe I was right the first time.

At any rate, Nancy's big mistake was always giving dates of our destruction where she had a good chance of still being alive. What she should have done, at least when the May 15, 2003 date failed to happen, was to give a new date far enough in to the future that she would most certainly be gone. That way she wouldn't have to come up with any excuses. She could just keep stringing the mentally impaired along for the rest of her life. It would then fall upon her replacement to do the PR work when that far out date eventually failed.

Her best course of action now would be to simply say that the Council of Worlds, in a last minute summit, decided to have the "Zetas" move "Planet X" out of the solar system while we were all sleeping so we wouldn't notice. Since we're supposedly stuck in an August position, she would be wise to say it just happened that way the seasons and constellations could come and go as they should.
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The ning has not enough worshipers! Nancy is back in an attempt to wave her flag along with her retinue of sock puppets.

Before it disappears it is here
Thread: ZetaTalk RIGHT Again! SOHO and NICT Down!

Last Edited by Prof_Rabbit on 08/22/2010 08:05 AM
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That will be Gerard, if I guess right.

Perhaps, but I very much doubt he will be as good at wriggling out of facts and evidence as nancy.

That may at last be the death knell for the zeta pap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1075996


ZetaPap has never been alive.
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That will be Gerard, if I guess right.

Perhaps, but I very much doubt he will be as good at wriggling out of facts and evidence as nancy.

That may at last be the death knell for the zeta pap.


ZetaPap has never been alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1076082


Just another sock Nancy made into one of her many hand puppets!
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The ning has not enough worshipers! Nancy is back in an attempt to wave her flag along with her retinue of sock puppets.

Before it disappears it is here
Thread: ZetaTalk RIGHT Again! SOHO and NICT Down!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

Well, we're coming up on Labor Day weekend. She holds a ZetaTalk fund drive every year about the same time as the Jerry Lewis MS telethon. With the ning not doing so well, she needed to come back to try to drive up interest.
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Thanks for the link to Nancy's very shrill sounding reappearance here. I posted a couple of observations, but CB had already done a pretty good job of tearing apart most things Nancy said.

I notice she failed to mention how far beyond its life expectancy SOHO actually IS, as well... her selective editing is showing.
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Well, you know, I need to justify that paycheck that Max and Nancy keep saying I get for proving her wrong.
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The ning has not enough worshipers! Nancy is back in an attempt to wave her flag along with her retinue of sock puppets.

Before it disappears it is here
Thread: ZetaTalk RIGHT Again! SOHO and NICT Down!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


She started that thread right around the time her old ZetaTalk Chats used to start.
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I predict the number of times she posts here each month will increase until she's back to her old schedule.
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I agree, CB.

I imagine her Most Popular Sock Puppets will also be present more often. She doesn't have much of an entourage unless she has her band of old socks!
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She sure does sound panicked that people may actually believe that the sun may become active this solar maximum. And that the various sun satellites and websites may show it happening.

I wonder why trying to pretend there is no activity from the sun is better than blaming the sun's activity on Planet X? After all, it's supposedly affecting everything else in the solar system, right?

If a super CME did manage to knock out the power grid, it would be blamed on the nonexistent Planet X, nevertheless.
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Debunkers can play Nancy like a fiddle.
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Debunkers can play Nancy like a fiddle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


It really is trivially easy. I mean, how dare I point out observations anyone can make that prove her completely wrong. I am such a Zeta-heretic.
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Well, damn you then...damn you all the way to whatever water world you end up on as an octopus!
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Well, damn you then...damn you all the way to whatever water world you end up on as an octopus!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


That's yet another part of her mythology (because that's what it is) that seems so....trite.

But, I tend to avoid discussing the truly religious parts of her Zeta idea, and concentrate mainly on when it so thoroughly flies in the face of observable evidence. That, and the apparent inability of the true believer or Zeta apologist to adapt to evidence that fully contradicts Nancy.
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You don't think those Alien craft crop circle makers can't take you away?


Just say bullshit
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Anyone hear the buzzing? Like a mosquito buzzing in your ear?
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No doubt another plane crash caused by the government to conceal "Planet X."

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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You don't think those Alien craft crop circle makers can't take you away?


Just say bullshit
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Translation please!? I don't even know what this guy is talking about half the time. I just get this image of someone holding a cardboard sign mumbling random thoughts without context. WTF?
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You don't think those Alien craft crop circle makers can't take you away?


Just say bullshit
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I, too, fail to comprehend what FS is saying, here.

I think aliens capable of interstellar travel would have better ways to communicate than drawing symbols in a field.
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I agree, Gerard will be the new high priestess...priest. Maybe I was right the first time.

At any rate, Nancy's big mistake was always giving dates of our destruction where she had a good chance of still being alive. What she should have done, at least when the May 15, 2003 date failed to happen, was to give a new date far enough in to the future that she would most certainly be gone. That way she wouldn't have to come up with any excuses. She could just keep stringing the mentally impaired along for the rest of her life. It would then fall upon her replacement to do the PR work when that far out date eventually failed.

Her best course of action now would be to simply say that the Council of Worlds, in a last minute summit, decided to have the "Zetas" move "Planet X" out of the solar system while we were all sleeping so we wouldn't notice. Since we're supposedly stuck in an August position, she would be wise to say it just happened that way the seasons and constellations could come and go as they should.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yeah, but there would be no urgentness to a date way in the future. She has finally hit on the right idea now, by just saying it's always imminent. She no longer takes responsibility for the "before 2012" bit. She'll just say that "Zetas" didn't really give that date because "Zetas" don't give dates.
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What's the story behind the octopus references?
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Ooo! Catseye, BAD PEOPLE who question the word of the Emissary are reborn as slimey nasty awful octopus-things on a horrible planet, as punishment for daring to question the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk!

I kid you not.
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Ooo! Catseye, BAD PEOPLE who question the word of the Emissary are reborn as slimey nasty awful octopus-things on a horrible planet, as punishment for daring to question the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk!

I kid you not.
 Quoting: Returner 1077576



bwahahaha! I had to ask!


Do the zetas predict anything at all that is rosy for our future or is it all death and mayhem? Is this a "glass half empty" group? Has schizophrenia been considered? Seems like in the past, it was easy to have people committed to institutions . . . petition?
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Nancy quotes.....




How about these?

"The Zetas have commented on Hale-Bopp since it first hit the press in mid-1995. They have stated that Hale-Bopp is a fraud, designed to get the populace looking in the wrong direction, not toward Orion." – Date unknown

"We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003 because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system." – Date unknown

"We have given the correct dates for the return of the 12th Planet as the year 2003 for the devastating first pass. All other dates are incorrect." – Date unknown

"Thus, you have Planet X in the news, under every subject but the inbound planet that will pass on May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter." – June 2002

"Since the inception of ZetaTalk, the passage with rotation stoppage and pole shift has been described as occurring ´shortly after May 15, 2003.´" – Date unknown

"By May 15th, it will be utterly clear that earth changes are in process, most humans walking about in shock, numb. There will be no debate about a mistake. We have stated that the rotation will stop for approximately a week." – Date unknown

"Slowing rotation is so pronounced that even those not aware of the prediction are noticing their clocks minutes slow, on a regular basis, from ´official´ time." – March 22, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March at the earliest." – March 2003

"Since we were precise about the dates, even the number of hours for rotation stoppage (5.9 days) [on the Loud Gentile show], we have no problem with being precise on the meaning of the Pole Shift date as May 27." – May 16, 2003

"On this date, May 30, 2003 the Earth is poised to experience great quakes and stretching of rifts, so that discussions of the exact date of rotation stoppage or the shift will be replaced by frantic efforts to deal with one disaster after another." – May 30, 2003

"You have only weeks not months" – July 20, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X would travel the span of Saturn’s orbit in 3 short months. In that Planet X has been visible to the naked eye since the very last days in March..." – August 28, 2003

"But at the current time, by late August, there is no question that the Planet X complex has arrived between the Earth and Sun..." – August 28, 2003

"Despite loud evidence that Planet X has arrived..." – September 21, 2003

"Given the increasingly obvious fact that Planet X is in the vicinity and not going away before trashing the neighborhood..." – October 11, 2003

"Those not willing or able to make changes in their lives before the Holidays may find the Holidays possible, but just barely, as the next sweeping arm of the Sun will put all doubt aside." – November 15, 2003

"The last arm swept by Earth around Dec 25, the next expected by the anxious humans watching the drama to start around Feb 9, 2004." – January 30, 2004

"Certain death on the International Space Station lies ahead for any who would remain there during the coming weeks." – December 10, 2004

"If fireballs have been an occasional entertainment, they will soon become a daily affair almost everywhere" – February 4, 2005

"The Earth is now coming into a similar period, when the N Pole of Planet X is swinging, slowing, around to point away from the Sun for the 3 days of darkness time those in the northern hemisphere of Earth will inevitably experience." – November 17, 2005
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Unfortunately the prognosis for Nancy is not good, claiming planet x as an incoming brown dwarf star in 1995 Nancy has escalated her claims over the years to culminate in the destruction of life as we know it in 2003, when this failed to materialize (and all her supporters left) Nancy's delusion simply grew and common sense of any kind disappeared, now a "water planet" inside the orbit of Venus planet x fails to vaporize due to a protective "dust cloud" while remaining invisible from all telescopes on earth.

Meanwhile Planet x and it's zetas have stopped the earth from orbiting and bob the earth up and down to fool everyone that nothing is amiss, Nancy "channels" zeta information via a "chip" in her head put there by the zetas who originally contacted Nancy by showing her an unwrapped starburst candy in a box.

Nancy wants us to prepare for planet wide destruction "real soon" during which 95% of humans will perish while true "believers" will be saved by Nancy and her zetas. I guess this is a minimalist synopsis. Nancy's proof of planet x includes pictures of a child's kite in front of the sun.

After more than 12 years without treatment Nancy demonstrates several psychotic disorders including, Delusional Disorder, Schizophrenia and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, while her family originally attempted to help, Nancy refused and has progressively deteriorated over the ensuing years.

Nancy has a complex mental condition that includes a "Messianic complex" vis.

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Messianic complex is a psychological state in which the individual believes him/herself to be, or is destined to become, the saviour of the particular field, a group, an event, a time period, or in an extreme scenario, the world.

People with Messianic Complexes tend to see themselves as saviours to a specific group of people or a specific field, making claims of their own glory, or claiming a self awareness of their own gift and how that gift can affect a group of people or a field of life.

In the most extreme cases, people with Messianic Complexes may see themselves as spiritual/religious Messiahs with transcendent powers who are destined to save the world.
end quote

FreeStore bought this hook line and sinker, giving up his worldly possessions to build a shelter, when May 2003 came and went FreeStore was left to either admit he made a mistake or follow Nancy, FreeStore was so entrenched with the idea of zetas that his wife and child left, so FreeStore has nothing except Nancy and the zetas, it is a sad story, one that demonstrates what happens to a cult after it collapses.
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Good list, Rabbit.
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What's the story behind the octopus references?
 Quoting: Catseye

This applies, too:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

^^ All who do not follow Nancy will end up on prison planet as lower marine lifeform, so says Nancy.
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Good list, Rabbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

It was a list of statements that I made up after going through ZetaTalk. It gets brought up every now and then for good reason. The list could be a lot longer considering how much crap is on her site.
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