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i think it is highly possible that they could not accurately calculate its orbit and track it, BECAUSE its orbit is so beyond anything human science preaches.

exactly:
Why would the government believe anything the "Zetas" or Nancy had to say?

does geological record show this? No!
it shows Earth that had periods of relative stability of its climate patterns, interrupted with sudden, violent and distorting events that reformed the [old] balance into a new one!

i think it is highly possible that they could not accurately calculate its orbit and track it, BECAUSE its orbit is so beyond anything human science preaches.

Which is absurd. All they would have had to do is take Nancy's coordinates and go from there. Since this "rogue planet" was inbound towards the sun, it wouldn't have been difficult at all. Or are you going to tell us that this planet can change direction at will...sort of wandering around checking out things as it goes?

does geological record show this? No!
it shows Earth that had periods of relative stability of its climate patterns, interrupted with sudden, violent and distorting events that reformed the [old] balance into a new one!

And guess what? It was the science you think is so wrong that discovered this.

exactly:
Why would the government believe anything the "Zetas" or Nancy had to say?

They didn't and don't. Thank you for supporting my point.

obviously, if PX is to arrive somewhere in the future to become visible 7 weeks before the Passage,
all coordinates given could be doubted, as being keyed to this arrival.

obviously, if PX is to arrive somewhere in the future to become visible 7 weeks before the Passage,
all coordinates given could be doubted, as being keyed to this arrival.

Nice to see you have some doubt there.

and made WRONG conclusions!

everyone, even elderly lady from Wisconsin or self-taught amateur from Ukraine can see this.

everyone, even elderly lady from Wisconsin or self-taught amateur from Ukraine can see this.

Funny how you think that non-educated people claim to have the right answers while people who have spent years and years of their adult lives studying this stuff don't know anything.

Operation Planet X
On or about May 15, 2003 (and it is not a joke) US Army forces in Iraq conducted military operation dubbed "Planet X".

Iraq
The Iraq invasion was clearly scheduled to occur going into the announced 2003 date of Passage. Frantic effort by the Administration to gain international support and proceeding even when it failed, clearly showed that it was their plan, from the beginning.

May 15, 2003
Weeks before and shortly after May 15, 2003, with no signs of inevitable terrorism threat:
- Operation "TopOff" was called to be in place, involving Seattle, Chicago, and Washington DC and over 100 agencies in the US and Canada.
- Terrorism exercises were scheduled for the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.
- Indonesia declared Martial Law
- Homeland Security went to level Orange in the US, with Level Red, wherein citizens are ordered to remain in their homes, being the next step.

As explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as many will not be able to hear this streaming audio, we have given the dates out because the US and Indonesian governments can no longer succeed with their plans. We had held the date close, to put these governments in the same position the common man they planned to murder are in, so that rotation stoppage would happen suddenly and prevent a smooth blockading of the city dwellers. As Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of these plans replayed around the world, cooperation by the military or locale police in such blockades are unlikely to happen. Given such orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the true agenda. Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date outnumbered the number that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped.
ZetaTalk: Dates, Why Now?
Note: relayed during the May 16 Lou Genitle show, and addressed during the May 17 IRC as well.

because i believe in self-education and Independent thought

There is enough information there to cast doubt in either direction.


Ohh... GOODY! Someone who thinks there are valid predictions and claims on that list. Why don't you pick one and try to defend its veracity?

If you read the statement in bold then conclude that I find either side to contain valid information, I am only able to conclude that your reading comprehension skills are below that necessary for adult discussion.



frogass, you are free to leave if you find the level of discourse too difficult for you.

Since you have failed utterly to defend any of the claims made by the senile, delusional, hate filled LIEDer I can only conclude you are incapable of defending them.

i think it is highly possible that they could not accurately calculate its orbit and track it, BECAUSE its orbit is so beyond anything human science preaches.

Which is absurd. All they would have had to do is take Nancy's coordinates and go from there. Since this "rogue planet" was inbound towards the sun, it wouldn't have been difficult at all. Or are you going to tell us that this planet can change direction at will...sort of wandering around checking out things as it goes?


obviously, if PX is to arrive somewhere in the future to become visible 7 weeks before the Passage,
all coordinates given could be doubted, as being keyed to this arrival.

re PX trajectory, look through this:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

does geological record show this? No!
it shows Earth that had periods of relative stability of its climate patterns, interrupted with sudden, violent and distorting events that reformed the [old] balance into a new one!

And guess what? It was the science you think is so wrong that discovered this.


and made WRONG conclusions!

everyone, even elderly lady from Wisconsin or self-taught amateur from Ukraine can see this.

i think it is highly possible that they could not accurately calculate its orbit and track it, BECAUSE its orbit is so beyond anything human science preaches.

Which is absurd. All they would have had to do is take Nancy's coordinates and go from there. Since this "rogue planet" was inbound towards the sun, it wouldn't have been difficult at all. Or are you going to tell us that this planet can change direction at will...sort of wandering around checking out things as it goes?


obviously, if PX is to arrive somewhere in the future to become visible 7 weeks before the Passage,
all coordinates given could be doubted, as being keyed to this arrival.

re PX trajectory, look through this:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

There is enough information there to cast doubt in either direction.


Ohh... GOODY! Someone who thinks there are valid predictions and claims on that list. Why don't you pick one and try to defend its veracity?

If you read the statement in bold then conclude that I find either side to contain valid information, I am only able to conclude that your reading comprehension skills are below that necessary for adult discussion.

That stupid list always makes me laugh. Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

That is just a blatant misrepresentation.

"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Neanderthal Man had died out, been replaced actually, during mankind's genetic engineering, due to digestive system problems - an inability to eat with ease what the Earth provided. On June 12, 2000 the Associated Press confirmed this!"

So I am sure you can provide a source with time and date stamp prior to 1995 where Nancy said this, and you can also provide the source quoted in June 12, 2000. Without those two pieces of information, it is an empty claim. Hopefully Looky will be the first to take on the challenge and prove a prediction right. You have the floor, Looky.

Do you all need a lesson in reading comprehension?
Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

I will break down my response for easy reading ..

NO... she did not predict Neanderthals .. she claims to have stated why they where selected for termination.

That stupid list always makes me laugh. Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

That is just a blatant misrepresentation.

"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Neanderthal Man had died out, been replaced actually, during mankind's genetic engineering, due to digestive system problems - an inability to eat with ease what the Earth provided. On June 12, 2000 the Associated Press confirmed this!"

So I am sure you can provide a source with time and date stamp prior to 1995 where Nancy said this, and you can also provide the source quoted in June 12, 2000. Without those two pieces of information, it is an empty claim. Hopefully Looky will be the first to take on the challenge and prove a prediction right. You have the floor, Looky.

Do you all need a lesson in reading comprehension?
Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

I will break down my response for easy reading ..

NO... she did not predict Neanderthals .. she claims to have stated why they where selected for termination.

But all we have is her word. I was hoping you would tackle the prediction and provide proof that it is in fact a successful prediction, but I can see you are like all the zeta supporters that have gone before you.

The announced date of Passage "around May 15, 2003" was clearly watched by those in power, in the White House.

You actually think that 'those in power' hadn't the resources to locate a large planet right in the inner Solar System and had to read Zetatalk instead?

Really?? Please tell me how that makes sense to you.


i think it is highly possible that they could not accurately calculate its orbit and track it, BECAUSE its orbit is so beyond anything human science preaches.

And the truly AMAZING aspect of this whole Nancy LIEDer saga has been the woman's inability to be even CORRECT once on any of her PREDICTIONS; especially the astronomical ones.

And NO zetaculties; the subject of so called "earth changes" is not a topic of PROPHETIC PREDICTION. Historically it is rather obvious that our planet has been consistently ever changing in it's natural evolution over the course of it's existence. Yes it is a NORMAL course for our planet and there is NOTHING that you zidiots can claim in regards to Nancy LIEDer or zetatalk that can change this REALITY!!


yes, dumbf*ck, our planet has been consistently ever changing OVER THE COURSE OF ITS EXISTENCE, not over [last] 50 years!

if what argument you are trying to push were true, Earth would have been totally unstable , at all times.

does geological record show this? No!
it shows Earth that had periods of relative stability of its climate patterns, interrupted with sudden, violent and distorting events that reformed the [old] balance into a new one!

That stupid list always makes me laugh. Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

That is just a blatant misrepresentation.

"Prior to July, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that Neanderthal Man had died out, been replaced actually, during mankind's genetic engineering, due to digestive system problems - an inability to eat with ease what the Earth provided. On June 12, 2000 the Associated Press confirmed this!"

So I am sure you can provide a source with time and date stamp prior to 1995 where Nancy said this, and you can also provide the source quoted in June 12, 2000. Without those two pieces of information, it is an empty claim. Hopefully Looky will be the first to take on the challenge and prove a prediction right. You have the floor, Looky.

Do you all need a lesson in reading comprehension?
Apparently Nancy predicted Neanderthals.

I will break down my response for easy reading ..

NO... she did not predict Neanderthals .. she claims to have stated why they where selected for termination.

But all we have is her word. I was hoping you would tackle the prediction and provide proof that it is in fact a successful prediction, but I can see you are like all the zeta supporters that have gone before you.


Although this was maybe not a "prediction" in the true sense of the word, the point is that Nancy brushes off any questions about other sources if they cannot 'predict with accuracy' and claims that her "Zetas" HAVE done so.

We are waiting for just ONE solid, sucessful prediction to be shown. And no, debatable things like 'weird weather' or 'failing ecomomy' are not acceptable due to being non-specific and prone to subjective interpretation.