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The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".
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<laughing>

Along with Andrew's "member".
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


And the actions are 'necessary' because of the 'elite's' coverup, why?
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The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


<laughing>

Along with Andrew's "member".
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I am tired of your snide remarks. Didn't your mother teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say, stay off the keyboard??

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/25/2010 12:44 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.


And the actions are 'necessary' because of the 'elite's' coverup, why?
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


If the Zeta's unilaterally end the cover-up, it would constitute an illegal breach of the non-interference mandate that governs them.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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So "death blow" for the Cover-Up" DOESN'T mean that people will know about PX????????

It means that people will know about 'plate movements'???????????

Since when was there a coverup about plate movements??????????

Who ever said that plate movements were caused by global warming??????????

What is WRONG with you?????????????


Cover-Up re Earth Changes in general etc.
 Quoting: andrew


But not the existence of PX???????? A "DEATH BLOW FOR THE COVERUP" doesn't mean that people will know about PX?????? What kind of a 'blow' to the cover up WOULD have to happen for people to know about PX?

who said plate movements caused by warming? *experts* and *scientists* say many weird things, including this - that increased seismicity is due to warming.

[incl. warming that leads to cooling and ice age]
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"...increased seismicity is due to warming."

You'll be providing a reference link for that, right?
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.


And the actions are 'necessary' because of the 'elite's' coverup, why?


If the Zeta's unilaterally end the cover-up, it would constitute an illegal breach of the non-interference mandate that governs them.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***



Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.
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If the Zeta's unilaterally end the cover-up, it would constitute an illegal breach of the non-interference mandate that governs them.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


In which case they would have to surrender their spot on the security council to the Klingon Empire. This power shift in “The Council of Worlds” would have severe political ramifications on the home planet and would be seen as a sign of weakness by the “Slinky Men”. It would only be a matter of time before an invasion force was sent to the Zeta home planet.

Pretending is fun!
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But not the existence of PX???????? A "DEATH BLOW FOR THE COVERUP" doesn't mean that people will know about PX?????? What kind of a 'blow' to the cover up WOULD have to happen for people to know about PX?
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


PX visibility 7 weeks ahead of pole shift

who said plate movements caused by warming? *experts* and *scientists* say many weird things, including this - that increased seismicity is due to warming.

[incl. warming that leads to cooling and ice age]

"...increased seismicity is due to warming."

You'll be providing a reference link for that, right?
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


no. not now, not today, but eventually will. if not remind me, seriously.
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But not the existence of PX???????? A "DEATH BLOW FOR THE COVERUP" doesn't mean that people will know about PX?????? What kind of a 'blow' to the cover up WOULD have to happen for people to know about PX?


PX visibility 7 weeks ahead of pole shift
 Quoting: andrew


PX was "visible to the naked eye" in 1995.

PX was visible in 2003. Nancy posted MANY sighting claims on her site, remember?

who said plate movements caused by warming? *experts* and *scientists* say many weird things, including this - that increased seismicity is due to warming.

[incl. warming that leads to cooling and ice age]

"...increased seismicity is due to warming."

You'll be providing a reference link for that, right?


no. not now, not today, but eventually will. if not remind me, seriously.
 Quoting: andrew


Why bother? You'll just be spouting some equally damning idiocy by then. We'll just focus on that.
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.


And the actions are 'necessary' because of the 'elite's' coverup, why?


If the Zeta's unilaterally end the cover-up, it would constitute an illegal breach of the non-interference mandate that governs them.



Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


The elite have chosen to "dupe" the masses, and the masses immaturity renders them highly "dupe-able". If the Zetas blew the cover-up, it would negate the consequences of the the elite's choices. Likewise, it would remove a valuable lesson soon to be learned by the common man - that being that "freedom" requires eternal vigilance. The common man allowed the elite to get the level of control they now enjoy - it is only "natural" that the masses be allowed to experience the consequences of that choice.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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You'll be providing a reference link for that, right?


no. not now, not today,
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Shocker...
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Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


Non-Interference doesnt mean they cannot affect ua at all, it means not interfering with the freedom to chose either spiritual orientation - STO or STS.

no interference with man's free will.

that doesnt mean that no interaction with man is allowed. "counselling" by STO and STS visitors/aliens IS allowed, and its the main reason they are here - to counsel those humans of the same orientation as they.

and if force/circumstance arises that disrupts the balanced setting (no undue influence bt either group) there is Interference arranged and sanctioned by the Council (of Worlds) - to return balanced setting.
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As always, PX-related claims which have any real substance to them are watered down, when challenged, so that nearly anything could be seen as a 'hit'. Now a "Death Blow for the Coverup" only means that a few people will question the reason for Earth changes.

NO claim or prediction will ever be a drop-dead, make-or-break situation for the likes of Andrew and his fellow PX culties. They simply won't put their beliefs on the line like that, and take a chance at being wrong.


Yawn...
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Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.


Non-Interference doesnt mean they cannot affect ua at all,
 Quoting: andrew


At all??? The "Zetas" are allegedly tilting Earth to simulate the seasons, right? Do you have any idea what would happen if Earth really WAS halted in orbit with no changes in the seasons for 7 years?? It would have catastrophic consequences for all life on Earth. That would be a NATUAL result of the passage of PX, which is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INTERFERES WITH, hmm?


it means not interfering with the freedom to chose either spiritual orientation - STO or STS.

no interference with man's free will.
 Quoting: andrew


REally? If so, then why don't they just keep the pole shift from happening? How would that be interfering with Man's free will?

that doesnt mean that no interaction with man is allowed. "counselling" by STO and STS visitors/aliens IS allowed, and its the main reason they are here - to counsel those humans of the same orientation as they.
 Quoting: andrew


What does that have to do with physical interference with the effects of PX on Earth?

and if force/circumstance arises that disrupts the balanced setting (no undue influence bt either group) there is Interference arranged and sanctioned by the Council (of Worlds) - to return balanced setting.
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What does that have to do with physical interference with the effects of PX on Earth?
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Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.


Non-Interference doesnt mean they cannot affect ua at all, it means not interfering with the freedom to chose either spiritual orientation - STO or STS.
 Quoting: andrew



The "Zetas" are allowed to interfere with ONE catastrophic effect of PX on Earth, but not another?

Does that REALLY make sense to you, Andrew?
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


If the ZETAS stopped aiding/ended the coverup, such actions would be necessary, too.

Funny. Always blaming others for what they, themselves, do.
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first,

"The Zetas have predicted that the 7 of 10 scenarios will start by the end of 2010, with at least one of them, and possibly more, playing out by that date. They have also given the sinking of the tongue holding Indonesia as the first scenario, accompanied by a slight tilting of the Indo-Australian Plate"

second,
if that failed to occur, [lets have it as a hypothetical possibility]

it would, indeed, hurt Zeta's own cause.

 Quoting: andrew


So, Andrew, based on that, please directly answer my direct question:

If none of these materialize by January 1, 2011, will it allow *you* to admit that Zeta accuracy is not 100 percent, and will it alter *your faith* in Nancy's religion or belief in an inbound PX in any way?
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and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly.


By the way, I can never figure out whether "Zetas" WANT the alleged coverup to be eliminated or not. How can they allow such a thing to happen and still maintain the 'element of doubt'? How can it be both ways?


The end of the cover up is "in the hands of man".


NO. It's in the hands of "Zetas", who are rearranging the sky and tilting Earth to SIMULATE NORMALCY.

If the "elite" ended the cover-up, such actions would not be necessary.


And the actions are 'necessary' because of the 'elite's' coverup, why?


If the Zeta's unilaterally end the cover-up, it would constitute an illegal breach of the non-interference mandate that governs them.



Tilting the Earth to alter the NATURAL EFFECTS OF PX ON EARTH is "NON-INTERFERENCE"? In what universe?

The alleged "Zeta" actions would be the only think KEEPING the population from knowing about PX. The entire world WOULD ALREADY know about it without such actions.


The elite have chosen to "dupe" the masses, and the masses immaturity renders them highly "dupe-able". If the Zetas blew the cover-up, it would negate the consequences of the the elite's choices. Likewise, it would remove a valuable lesson soon to be learned by the common man - that being that "freedom" requires eternal vigilance. The common man allowed the elite to get the level of control they now enjoy - it is only "natural" that the masses be allowed to experience the consequences of that choice.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


So the common man is supposed to be able to see through the trickery of super-powerfull and super-intelligent alien forces or take the consequences. "Zetas" support the 'elite's' controlling actions .... for the alleged good of Mankind.

Good to know!
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Reading Andrew's posts is like having a window into the mind of a truly deranged soul. Andrew baby, you're nuts. Seriously. Your belief system is full of more holes than a screen-door rowboat, but you keep paddling away furiously long after the thing has sunk.

Max is no more a believer than I am -- he's just here for the lulz.
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If you are nervous, imagine how Nancy feels! She was there during the 2003 white lie, when Planet X so clearly came inbound as we said it would, right on track according to our coordinates and arriving in the evening sky just where we said it would some 7 years earlier. (snip) [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Andrew, don't you realize that the above "Zeta" claim is completely false?
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Note: No response.
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Note: Still no response.
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"element of doubt!!"


Just wondering... why don't the believers of Zetatalk believe that there is any 'element of doubt' about Nancy's various claims?


there is, of course!
and more people realize it than you imagine
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Really. Well then why don't you cite a specific claim in Zetatalk which you doubt? You already said that if "Zetas" say it, that it MUST be true, hmm? So which is it?
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Note: No response.
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Note: Still no response.
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Would somebody explain again how the zeetas are not interfering?

You guys are secretly wishing for doom and that's just plain not nice. The debunkers have hammered you incessantly and now you are drooling for it so you can feel the satisfaction of being right - of believing you were privy to some secret knowledge and, therefore, somehow extra-special. You have no idea how crushed you are going to be when all this predicted calamity doesn't happen. You are going to be depressed and disheartened, and actually disappointed that millions or billions of people didn't die. You are going to be absolutely miserable because of this conflict in your brains - the STO orientation you say you have vs wishing/anticipating death on so many people who are just trying to live their lives without pain. You want to be right even if it's at the expense of other people's lives. You can say that's not true, but your persistence in thinking about it and visualizing it (what do you think "praying" is?) makes it undeniable.


Jupiter is opposite the sun right now. How is it not ripping the planet apart? Maybe it caused the quake in Indonesia?
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So the common man is supposed to be able to see through the trickery of super-powerful and super-intelligent alien forces or take the consequences. "Zetas" support the 'elite's' controlling actions .... for the alleged good of Mankind.

Good to know!
 Quoting: Menow 1119283


Basically ... growth comes through experience. Keep in mind that REINCARNATION is part of the "soup". Lessons learned will be carried forward into future incarnations. Today's ignorant masses, will be tomorrow's "super-intelligent" beings. How do you think the "super-intelligent" got that way????

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/25/2010 01:29 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Would somebody explain again how the zeetas are not interfering?

You guys are secretly wishing for doom and that's just plain not nice. The debunkers have hammered you incessantly and now you are drooling for it so you can feel the satisfaction of being right - of believing you were privy to some secret knowledge and, therefore, somehow extra-special. You have no idea how crushed you are going to be when all this predicted calamity doesn't happen. You are going to be depressed and disheartened, and actually disappointed that millions or billions of people didn't die. You are going to be absolutely miserable because of this conflict in your brains - the STO orientation you say you have vs wishing/anticipating death on so many people who are just trying to live their lives without pain. You want to be right even if it's at the expense of other people's lives. You can say that's not true, but your persistence in thinking about it and visualizing it (what do you think "praying" is?) makes it undeniable.


Jupiter is opposite the sun right now. How is it not ripping the planet apart? Maybe it caused the quake in Indonesia?
 Quoting: Catseye


>> You can say that's not true

Indeed.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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So the common man is supposed to be able to see through the trickery of super-powerful and super-intelligent alien forces or take the consequences. "Zetas" support the 'elite's' controlling actions .... for the alleged good of Mankind.

Good to know!


Basically ... growth comes through experience. Keep in mind that REINCARNATION is part of the "soup". Lessons learned will be carried forward into future incarnations. Today's ignorant masses, will be tomorrow's "super-intelligent" beings. How do you think the "super-intelligent" got that way????
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Then why do Nancy and "Zetas" keep braying about the damnable 'elite' and the damnable 'coverup'? All that is GOOD for mankind, hmm? "Zetas" are only pretending to be against the 'elite', hmm? "Zetas" are only pretending to be STO and saying that the 'elite' are STS, hmm? Actually, the 'elite' are helping Mankind, right? That makes the 'elite' the real STOs, right?
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Andrew 'Wanker' Dumbfuck writes:

"and ZT states itself that 7 of 10 will be a "death blow" for the Cover-Up.

im intrigued and waiting and watching for this excitedly."

So you're getting a puny Dumbfuckistan boner over the prospect of millions of people getting ganked in a variety of horrific ways?


Man, you STS folks have some fucked-up values, wanker-boy.


why?

7 of 10 would be a death blow for the cover-up, and even though we dont know exactly how much time from 7 of 10 to poel shift itself (though i have my assumptions), more people will be alerted, notice that something is AMISS, somethings happening, and can prepare ahead of the time.
 Quoting: andrew

Well, good thing you don't happen to live in any of the areas slated for horrific earth changes. So nice and STO that you look forward to the death and suffering of millions of people to reinforce your belief in a delusional old woman who communicates through candy with imaginary aliens. If that's what it is to be STO, I pass. I can't imagine spending the "aftertimes" with the likes of Andrew.
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The elite have chosen to "dupe" the masses, and the masses immaturity renders them highly "dupe-able".

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By the way... let's get real here. The 'masses' whom are being 'duped' are those who believe that Earth is halted in orbit and that there is a rogue planet hovering near the Sun for the last 7 years.
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No kidding! Trapped with Andrew, who spends all day either glorifying the wonders of socialism or making odd noises in his bedroom...

I'll take the Squid Planet for 200, thanks Alex!
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So the common man is supposed to be able to see through the trickery of super-powerful and super-intelligent alien forces or take the consequences. "Zetas" support the 'elite's' controlling actions .... for the alleged good of Mankind.

Good to know!


Basically ... growth comes through experience. Keep in mind that REINCARNATION is part of the "soup". Lessons learned will be carried forward into future incarnations. Today's ignorant masses, will be tomorrow's "super-intelligent" beings. How do you think the "super-intelligent" got that way????


Then why do Nancy and "Zetas" keep braying about the damnable 'elite' and the damnable 'coverup'? All that is GOOD for mankind, hmm? "Zetas" are only pretending to be against the 'elite', hmm? "Zetas" are only pretending to be STO and saying that the 'elite' are STS, hmm? Actually, the 'elite' are helping Mankind, right? That makes the 'elite' the real STOs, right?
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It's a word called "PERSPECTIVE". There's the perspective of a member of the "elite". There's the perspective of an individual "Zeta". There's the perspective of a "typical" common man (which you are demonstrating quite aptly with your response). Keep in mind that Nancy is actually quite "common" and would have little of the Zeta's perspective - and even LESS of a member of the "Council of World's" - much like a three year old who doesn't understand why Daddy won't let her have just ice cream for dinner. Football is a violent game. There's the "perspective" of the protective mother who thinks it's the dumbest thing imaginable. There's the perspective of the proud father, the coach, the fans, the doctor who treats injuries, the thousands of maimed who've been permanently injured playing the game. YET THE GAME GOES ON.

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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You left out the most important perspective of all, Max, which is that of the person who realizes the entirety of ZetaTalk is complete bullshit.

That's really the only perspective that matters.
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