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"2015" is used only because by that date there will be no 'element of doubt' remaining.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/30/2010 06:00 PM

Depends on how you use the word "support".

It could be said that the British "supported" Hitler and the Germans by evacuating their troops from Dunkirk.

I haven't looked at this thread in 2 years. I see zetamax et al are still trolling you all hard.

Still it looks like your all having fun (I guess....)


I propose in 2012 you all start a new thread to keep you occupied.

Something along the lines
"Unicorns Exist and grant wishes!"

Then you can all pick a side and argue back and forth for 800 pages.

It will be just as constructive (that is not at all)

GOOD LUCK!

You sir ... ARE NOT AMUSING!!!

BEWARE OF THE TIPPING POINT!!!

Look what I found. Somebody did the math for the acceleration during Nancy's claimed 90 degree shift in an hour. Time needed for accell/decell means that the peak speed would be over 10,000mph! What kind of wind would THAT cause?! And Nancy has this posted on her own site!

[link to www.zetatalk3.com]

The pole shift is going to get us going pretty fast as it shifts. Could be of the order of magnitude of 12 times the normal rotational speed of the planet. This can be determined from the size of the planet and the Zetas 1 hr or less for the shift. Depending on how fast the deceleration takes place, the sliding force on a body could get up to 9 or more times the person’s own weight (9 G). High winds during the polar shift will be caused by the mass of atmosphere resisting motion and sloshing just as what will happen with the oceans.
Determination of estimated shift maximum surface speed, and possible deceleration amplitudes as the shift stops. Using some high school physics formulas and concepts: Observable data: At the equator, the Earth rotates at a speed of 1,040 mph or 0.29 miles per second (1,670 km/h, 0.46 km/s). (see fttp://ftp.sunspot.noao.edu/PR/answerbook/motion.html). For normal earth rotation the surface speed at a 45 degrees latitude would be 1040*cos(45) = 1040*.707 = 735 miles per hour. The surface speed at the poles is 0 miles per hour. These same concepts would apply during the rotational motion of the polar shift.
The equatorial radius is about 6.378 million meters. Thus the perimeter is (2*3.14*6.378*10^6) = 40,000 KM or 24,800 miles. (1KM = .621 Miles) See [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Analysis: S(distance) =(1/2)a(acceleration) times t^2(time of displacement) Solving this for acceleration we have: a = 2s/t^2 To find the number of "G" one would divide this by g = acceleration of gravity 32 ft/sec^2.
Assume the polar shift of the earth would cause a uniform acceleration up to a maximum speed and then immediately start deceleration to zero for a total rotation of say one quarter turn or 90 degrees. Duration to be one hour. The distance along the earth surface for half of this or acceleration up to a minimum speed would be a 1/8 revolution. The perimeters of the earth at the equator is about 24,800 miles or 40,000 meters. Thus "s" above = 1/8*24,800 miles = 3,100 miles. The amount of "a" acceleration sustained for a uniform ramp up for 30 min would be about = (2*3100mile*5280ft/mile)/((30min*60sec/min)^2) = 10 ft/sec^2 or dividing by g gives .31 G.
V(final velocity) = a (acceleration) times t (time for displacement) (assuming initial velocity is zero) v = at = (10 ft/sec^2)*(30min*60sec/min) = 18,000 ft/sec = (18,000*.681) miles/hr = 12,200 miles/hr. Note: this is about 12 times the normal surface rotational speed at the equator. Suppose the polar shifts surface velocity of 12,200 miles/hr (18,000 ft/sec) comes to a stop in 3 minutes. What will the deceleration be?
a(acceleration) = v(velocity) / t(time of displacement)
a = (18,000 ft/sec)/(3 min * 60 sec/min) = 100 ft/sec^2
dividing by g gives 3.1 G of deceleration
As a worst case suppose the polar shifts surface velocity of 12,200 miles/hr (18,000 ft/sec) comes to a stop in 1 minutes. What will the deceleration be?
a(acceleration) = v(velocity) / t(time of displacement)
a = (18,000 ft/sec)/(1 min * 60 sec/min) = 300 ft/sec^2
dividing by g gives 9.4 G of deceleration.
Now suppose a car traveling 20 miles/hr hits a barrier and stops in 2 ft. Assuming uniform deceleration. What deceleration does the car receive? With no seat belt a friend of mine hit his head on the windshield and broke the glass during such a crash.
a = (v^2)/2s = (20*5280ft/3600sec)^2/2*2 = 215 ft/sec2 or 6.7 G force
Offered by Mike.

I use the word "support" in a rational way, as in that the "Zetas" are covering up the existence of PX(alleged). You are using it in an irrational way. What a surprise.

By the way... I asked this: "What is adversarial about that?" Of course, you had no answer.

Provisionally. Everyone knows that by 2015, if nothing has happened, that this will be seen as inaccurate forecast, due diligence, justified caution. No harm, no foul!

Um, 2015?. Still trying to push out the date, eh?

Sorry, 1/1/2012 is your chosen fail date, no point you trying to weasel out of it now.

It's Nancy's too, so he's following her example by being a
weasel. What everyone knows is that she has made way too
many statements about 2012 being too far out for anyone to
believe any more of her excuses.

I never expected that steak dinner anyway.
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She also has made too many firm statemenst about the 7of10 for this year. Her ning is on pins and needles waiting for massive catastrophic events before the end of the year.

If the TIPPING POINT lives up to its hype, then 7 of 10 might be a VERY "conservative" forecast!!!

WRONG! First the "Zetas" were quite clear that 2003 was the year of the "pole shift." When that didn't happen, they said they would not give out dates but did say that 2012 was too far out. Even if we go by your 2015 bullshit, come 2015 you'll just push it back to 2020. Your master has taught you well.

BULLSHIT! If 2003 was a "white lie" why did the "Zetas" claim that all other dates were incorrect? Why did they state that they gave the date out because the U.S. and Indonesian governments would no longer succeed with their plans? That statement means that no "white lie" was needed. You prove yourself to be a true Nancy believer through and through. Don't even bother claiming you're a fence sitter because no one will buy it.


What "Global Elite?" Oh, you mean the ones that the "Zetas" are helping by making everything appear normal so we won't notice that the Earth is halted in orbit or that "Planet X" is hovering near the sun?

Heed Max's warning. In nine days when total disaster fails to happen, Max will reach his tipping point and go totally insane.

There's no element of doubt remaining, right now.

Your attempt at pushing back the PX arrival date *yet again* is horribly disingenuous, at best, ZM.

And you know it.

In a chess or poker match, you never want to betray your strategy to the adversary. Just as there is still classified information from as far back as WWII (and probably farther), in the battle between the Zetas and the Global Elite, it is highly likely - indeed PROBABLE - that explanations for every statement, every representation will NOT be provided. A satisfactory explanation WAS provided for the "White Lie", but the statement regarding the Indonesian government does appear to be somewhat aberrant. Almost certainly there is a compelling reason it was communicated, and it is rational to conclude that there are "compelling reasons" a "compelling reason" cannot be provided.



Helping? I suppose with that rationale, ransom paid to kidnappers is "helping" the kidnappers!!!

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/30/2010 10:10 PM

Funny, I've nearly concluded that you were of the opinion that point had already been reached.

Yes exactly. Well said.

What's with the IF?

You have categorically stated in no uncertain terms that this TIPPING POINT crap WILL HAPPEN!!

....and when IT DOES NOT....you will have to front up with at least an apology to the other posters here, Melfy.

If you don't then your goose is likely to be cooked sunshine!!!!!!!

over 10,000 mph!!

Now that would produce some damn mighty big hurricane events!!!

Nancy LIEDer and her zetaculties sure love dreaming of surviving an illogical doomsday fantasy.

Please don't use this smilie. It frustrates me to look at it.

Good!!!

Always sliding that date forward. Sounds like a project I worked on a few years ago at a defense contractor...every month the project got shoved forward another month. I think it finally got canceled when the British axed the Nimrod upgrade recently.

Now back to the subject at hand.

First is was 2003.
Then it was "weeks not months"
Then it was 2012 is too far out.
Now you're setting 2015.

What happens when 2015 is around the corner, 2018?

I'd be MUCH more concerned with a week from Monday!!!

Yes come that time we will have total confirmation of the above reality.

I expect to see a FULL retraction of your FAILED claim made along with a sincere APOLOGY to the posters here on this thread.....nothing less will be accepted.

Why wait - I can say "I'm sorry" now!

eh hem ...

I'M SORRY that you lack my advanced discernment skills!!

You only have yourself to blame for your current plight, Melfy. Happy TIPPING POINT fool.

Then why are you trying to help coverup the true "Zeta" strategy which is to manipulate the unsuspecting; the gullible and the vulnerable among us?

Max, the "Zetas" are nasty, venomous predators and you are attempting to make light of the whole deal. I spent quite a bit of time reading over at Nancy's ning the last couple of days and when you really look closely, you see just how manipulative the whole thing is. I realized that some years ago and that is why I have dedicated so much of my time to debunking Nancy. However, I had forgotten just HOW devious and sneaky and nasty and underhanded are the ways of Nancy Lieder and her "Zetas", which I have always believed are actually some sort of entity who possess her. There is something truly wicked behind Zetatalk. That is my long-considered opinion, and I don't have the respect I would owe a rattlesnake hiding in the grass for you, Maxie, for your attempted support of it, no matter how foolish your little game may seem.

Fuck you Max. Fuck you and the snake you rode in on.

Totally agree with everything that you said above, Menow.

YOU might be, because you believe in bullshit, but nobody else is.