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I love it. Zidiots and Bottards. Sux 4 some that they have
to be both.
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You talk'n bout me??? PUNK???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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JUST 24 HOURS TO THE TIPPING POINT !!!!!!

(funny boi!!)


tlr26......................... tlr27
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


LESS THAN 13 HOURS NOW!!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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imfail
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Go ahead, LAUGH IT UP!!! In a few hours we'll see who's laughing!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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The Fox News host who rants ultra-right viewpoints, not bothering to provide facts to back his rants?
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Pot meet Kettle....

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

the rest of that Glen Beck post is right at the bottom of the page, and she spells it both Murdock and Murdoch

and yes, she claims she met up with him

:-O


(Actually on a reread... It isn't quite clear whether she met up with Murdock/h OR the Puppetmaster...)
Either way her delusions of grandeur are definitely getting worse.
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LESS THAN 13 HOURS NOW!!!!
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Just for you Melfy!!.......
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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Just for you Melfy!!.......
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how `apt'

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Go ahead, LAUGH IT UP!!! In a few hours we'll see who's laughing!
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nanu_nanu
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Go ahead, LAUGH IT UP!!! In a few hours we'll see who's laughing!


nanu_nanu
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Someone on another thread referred to the Bot "Cult". Is it possible to belong to more than one "CULT" at a time???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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But I have noted that the "groundwork" for such a "shift" in "goalposts" is "rapidly" "happening" at the "moment."
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rofl
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Someone on another thread referred to the Bot "Cult". Is it possible to belong to more than one "CULT" at a time???
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Well how long is a piece of string, Melfy?
Life Is But A Dream!!
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Definitely.

Sounds like he's been reading too much of David dIcke's material.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1163448


"Tugging on their rigid penises" ?

Is that from Icke?
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Someone on another thread referred to the Bot "Cult". Is it possible to belong to more than one "CULT" at a time???


Well how long is a piece of string, Melfy?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

scratching
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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I'm on your side. My point is that it looks to me like High is claiming he is running experiments here but no one seems to be concerned about.
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In other words you're the only other poster besides me that I've seen comment on this.
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Well how long is a piece of string, Melfy?

scratching
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I will see your scratching and raise you one scratching
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Someone on another thread referred to the Bot "Cult". Is it possible to belong to more than one "CULT" at a time???


Well how long is a piece of string, Melfy?

scratching


I will see your scratching and raise you one scratching
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


The TIPPING POINT - just over 10 hours from now.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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What's to be concerned about?
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The EIGHT DAYS is the WHOLE POINT. If nothing out of the ordinary and bigger than 9-11 happens from November 8th to the 14th, I will admit here publicly that I was WRONG and will apologize to ALL posters in this thread!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Melfy how many hours to go now? You are so fuked!!!

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The TIPPING POINT - just over 10 hours from now.
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lol4melol4melol4melol4melol4me
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The TIPPING POINT - just over 10 hours from now.


lol4melol4melol4melol4melol4me
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I'll apologize only if nothing happens, and TLR promises not to make a film lampooning it.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Definitely.

Sounds like he's been reading too much of David dIcke's material.


"Tugging on their rigid penises" ?

Is that from Icke?
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No that's randy andy from the ning LOL
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The TIPPING POINT - just over 10 hours from now.


:lol4me::lol4me::lol4me::lol4me::lol4me:


I'll apologize only if nothing happens, and TLR promises not to make a film lampooning it.
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Too late to start putting conditions on it now its almost `white lie' time melfy

:-)
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I'll apologize only if nothing happens,
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tlr28


and TLR promises not to make a film lampooning it.
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Budget allowances have already been approved by my "movie' studio for such a project to proceed.

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Hey, ZM -- was my answer earlier complete enough for you?
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Now that the specified time has passed I'm sure Max will whine
about waiting until it's the very end of the day in the last
time zone of the planet. And then the setup for January's fail
begins.
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The time hasn't passed - we got just under 90 minutes to go.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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So even the time got changed from 6:50EST to 9:50EST. wrotfl2

Still won't help. All the equivocating in the world won't.
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lol The time was 6:50PST PACIFIC STANDARD TIME. It has always been Pacific time you DOOFUS!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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So even the time got changed from 6:50EST to 9:50EST. wrotfl2

Still won't help. All the equivocating in the world won't.
 Quoting: DrPostman

EXACTLY ONE HOUR TO GO!!!!!!!

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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science is quite a leap of faith too - you didnt verify all those experiments made for all those hundreds of years to know is it true for yourself, didnt you? and not many people did [:)]


No, science is not a leap of faith. Do you know why? Because tests have been done, data has been collected and theories were made based upon that data. Then, others observed, tested and verified the results. If the results were the same, a conclusion was formed based upon all that data. I don't need to repeat the experiments made for hundreds of years because they were already done...by others and it was documented.

Welcome to fail Andrew.
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with science you give credit to those men, who you suppose to be in a position to know better, and you trust them, you believe what they say.

"science' is what these men agree among themselves is truth and then tell us.

science, along with any philosophical system and any religion, is a way to grasp Universe. surely, some of these worldviews are false (based on false premises), but they are basically the same thing - a basic belief about the nature of reality.

science is very narrow-sighted and 'grounded'. it has always reasoned on the basis of FALSE premise - that what we know is all that exists (=we know everything). it is totally UNSCIENTIFIC approach. In that Science is no different from any religion. plain and simple, science is a belief system, the same as any other, only in this case scientific belief system.
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science is quite a leap of faith too - you didnt verify all those experiments made for all those hundreds of years to know is it true for yourself, didnt you? and not many people did [:)]

No, science is not a leap of faith. Do you know why? Because tests have been done, data has been collected and theories were made based upon that data. Then, others observed, tested and verified the results. If the results were the same, a conclusion was formed based upon all that data. I don't need to repeat the experiments made for hundreds of years because they were already done...by others and it was documented.

Welcome to fail Andrew.

Andrew just doesn't see how this proves that Zetatalk is his
religion. He's no different than the creationists who claim
that the Earth is only 6,000 years old:

scicreat
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wrong.
scientific method is:

phenomena -> theory -> facts

humans observe world around them, make assumptions what it might be and how and why, and then verify through experience or research.
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scicreat

The creationists make that exact same argument too. "I believe in God and you believe in science! They're both belief and belief is faith, so you can't say that one is better than the other."

Of course faith isn't simply belief, it's strong belief even in the absence of evidence. That's a majorly important difference.
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and right you are - science and religion (and philosophic systems) differ in method, otherwise it is basically the same - worldview system.

science is experimental method
religion is "blind faith", revelation/dogma
philosophy is speculative (theorizing, pondering)

in this light i would define ZetaTalk as a "philosophical system", like Buddism, or Confucianism, or Taoism.

it is a set of beliefs (basic assumptions) about the nature of reality, world (Universe), about what it is and how and why; what is the place of human in all of this and how it determines what our daily life would be.

- that definition would CERTAINLY apply to Buddism, Taosism or Confucianism.

the philosophical system (worldview) derives pronciples by which adherents guide their lives. it defines basic assumptions and "declared values".

and, in truth, in that everyone is a creator of his own worldview, a system of assumptions about the world,
everyone is creating his own personal philosophical system.
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I've noticed that not one debunker has responded to my concerns about living in the last days of a failed robber-baron society. So tell me seven-four-fours, do you think this status quo can continue indefinitely, or even much longer???


IMHO, there is no such thing as a status quo. Nothing lasts indefinitely. So the question is vaguely meaningless.

Do I think the age of American hegemony is over? Likely, yes. Historically, 'empires' rise and fall like the tide. My best guess is that there will be a brief time, in which the reins return to Europe, followed quite quickly by the economic powerhouses of China and India. A century after that? Who knows?

However, America won't quite be a second-world country. We still largely have the world's food, and I think bio-tech will be the next big thing to happen. Agriculture will still be our big export, but change in ways we can barely imagine. I think kelp, and perhaps yeast, will be bio-engineered to do all sorts of amazing things, and we'll lead that race for quite awhile.

Natural disasters will occur -- they always occur. Economies will continue their cyclical cycles, and people will try to do their best to predict chaotic systems. Human affairs will continue to be the definition of a tempest in a teapot. But the species will muddle along.

Will there be a huge, 90 percent population-wiping event? I tend to doubt it, although such things are possible. But it seems in our nature to *always* think it is the end-times, *always* think our little dramas are unlike anything that has happened before, and that *this* set of problems, surely, is the insurmountable set.

And then we surmount them, or learn to live with them, and continue to muddle along.

I expect that cycle will continue. I hope that answers your question.
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yeah, typical reaction - just "saddle" some cycle and you are a master of life! you know what to expect, everything predictable, repeatable, expectable. the wiser. everything that is left - lay plans into the future according to this "scientific" insider knowledge.

too bad, because it is all based on extrapolation - assumption that general conditions will continue into the future.

(that is status quo, btw)

cycles are a thing of human psychology - an expectation of better times. it will get better, economic upswing is around the corner, the deeper we fall the steeper rise will follow... SOON!

it is also based on a "compensation theory" - one awaits just "compensation" for every misfortune from some higher "providence" - "It cant happen to me! I was a good guy!". so, "compensation" awaits out there, around the corner
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Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/14/2010 10:24 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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