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Except that I think Nancy is claiming that the Indoesian plate has already "sunk" in talking about flooding there. I think she is going to claim that as a "hit" on her prediction for 7 of 10 in 2010.

I have no idea where that passage originated. I tried to google the first line or so and got no hits.

but, hey, this could be easily verified - there are 'guidelines' - sinking is supposed to be 80 feet at the southern tip of indonesian microplate and something around 30-40 feet in the middle.

that's no small thing
and if THAT happens it would certainly "shock the world" - many cities and islands virtually disappearing under waters.

Nancy has certainly led people to belive that something BIG will happen by the end of this year. Ning quote:

"Leon the counting many members are doing..has to do with the 7/10 prediction.
The Zetas predicted that we will be at a 7/10 by year end.. and that it will be something that will shock the world. Please read the FAQ , to find out what the 7/10 is."

On the other hand, I believe Nancy is already trying to weasel out of that firm prediction. I think she is going to say something which qualifies has already happened.

Nancy "verifies" things in whatever why she chooses. You don't get a say in it. Remember the airliner in an "inland lake" even though there were no such lakes withing reach? Nancy pronounces her own "hits" and modifies reality to suit. Any who question her on that will be banished.

unless something like this happens - ie permanent sinking into seawater by 30 to 80 feet of [coastal and low] parts of Indonesia - it couldnt be called a "hit".

and Nancy also said that this will not be likely accompanied by big earthquakes, - slow and silent slip of that microplate

What will it mean to you if the 7 doesn't happen by the end of the year?

well, this wouldnt mean that EVERYTHING she/they said is wrong.

they couldnt have been more specific re 7 by the end of 2010, about timing and events and reiterating again and again when asked that it will happen in 2010.

If that fails to happen it would mean big trouble for ZT and our members will be disappointed.

however, i wouldnt exclude this "7" happening later, if this doesnt happen in 2010.
relying on ANY dates is tricky, it could even have been Nancy's misinterpretation, who knows?
important thing is to watch the actual developments, monitor eq's and weather/climate etc.

if it is to happen, - it will happen in due time

So, if that is not enough to shake your faith in Nancy, what is?

What event has to occur for you to change your mind, and conclude that Nancy/ZT is simply a lot of hooey?

Andrew...lets be brutally honest.

This "7 of 10" event will not happen by the end of the year and you will continue to buy into this crap despite of it being another epic fail. This is cult dynamics...this is how they operate. We have watched this happen year after year without fail. It is clear that you are unwilling to let go of your delusion.

climate,and other Earth changes have to stop, for good, so that it is a thing of the past.

They haven't ceased for 4 billion years. Why would you expect change to stop now?

Why does it occur to me that this 7 of 10 by years end is destined to become another Christmas Hammer debacle for Nancy? It's been two years since that failed prediction. I remember she tried so desperately to find something to fit her prediction and ended up stretching the window to the spring. Nancy should learn to not give dates or add a pray it away clause to her doom cult to prevent the need for more white lies. The few followers she has left won't believe the white lies and failed predictions forever.

you may want to call it this way..

of course, i will not erupt with indignation and deny what i stood up for before.

what would be the point?

it is a theory worth considering, at least, and i will not abandon it.

i will continue to be with ZetaTalk and Nancy.

7 of 10 IS about the Christmas Hammer! that article from 2007 was about what is anticipated now - "7" of 10!

on a smaller scale
change as compared with 50 years ago, even 30-40 years ago.

since that time things have changed alot, no more precisely, they started to change back then.

they were pretty consistent then and started to rapidly and INCREASINGLY change some 30-40 years ago.

That's an interesting way of phrasing it... "I will not abandon it... I will continue to be with ZetaTalk and Nancy." It sounds like the sort of thing you'd say about a spouse dying from cancer, not someone who channels aliens over the internet.

This is the whole point of the matter. When a theory or concept is continually proven to fail or is prone to inaccuracies, it should be abandoned. Your unwillingness to alter the beliefs you hold in spite of the overwhelming evidence that they are flawed is proof of your affliction.

not enough "proof", if that what you refer to could be even called proof

You fail to understand that Nancy takes NORMAL events and says that they are abnormal. Example: The "moon tilt" nonsense. Go ahead and explain how the Moon is not supposed to appear to 'tilt' as it crosses the sky.

A long and well documented record of failed doomsday predictions…a list of irrational claims that can easily be disproven such as “the earth being halted in its orbit”…delusional calls to do the needless and inhumane such as killing your pets…Good God!...what more do you need?

Btw, this is like saying "I'll stop believing in phlogiston when things stop burning."

No it wasn't Andrew. Prior to the Christmas in question, Nancy claimed that the Christmas Hammer would make that years Christmas memorable and that it would be our last. We were supposed to get hammered right at Christmas, not this year, but the 2007 or 2008, whichever it was. We are still waiting. The Christmas hammer has nothing to do with the 2010 7 out of 10. Another example of how the ning tards gyrate and spin to try and save face. But it's all here in the archives, andyboy, and it only makes you look more foolish when you make these false statements.

would it count for you if it happened THIS year now?

Mark my words. Nancy will ignore the specific language of her 7 of 10 prediction and say that it only meant that it would START happening during this year and that it already HAS started.

Not since it was supposed to have happened two or three years ago. You are grasping at straws. But then again, you are one of the few that still believe her after the 2003 pole shift failed to happen. That's seven years wrong, going on eight years. It's like predicting the big California quake on a specific date, and when it doesn't happen you wait for the next big one 10 years later and claim a hit. Nancy got herself into this. She gave dates and timelines. They failed. There is no getting around that. She was wrong and she will be wrong about this one. We have just a few weeks to see her fail again.

Would it count for you if it DIDN'T happen? No, it wouldn't. You would ignore it and accept an excuse just like all the other times.

Come on, Andrew... explain how Nancy's 'moon-tilt' claims are factual. Then you can move on to explaining how the Sun and Moon are not where they belong in the sky and only people on the internet know about it. All the world's astronomers have missed it or are covering it up, right?

Those are central to Nancy's "Earth changes" claims, but are utterly bogus. It's all lies, Andrew. Zetatalk is a steaming pile of BS. Unless, of course, you care to explain how the Moon is really not supposed to 'tilt' as we observe it in the sky.

Go ahead, Andrew. You have the floor.

So something's been bugging me today. The Zetas are required to maintain an element of doubt among humans about their existence and the existence of Planet X. This is because if people found out about the existence of aliens all at once they'd burn contactees at the stake, apparently? Supposedly it's better to let people slowly subconsciously realize it. Okay, fine, whatever.

Now let's say someone at NASA has a sudden crisis of conscience and decides to blow the lid off the conspiracy. "I've had enough," says our whistleblower. "I'm not going to go along with this evil plot to suppress knowledge of Planet X. I'm going to go public with the facts: Earth is stopped in its orbit, and things only look kind of normal because aliens are wobbling the planet around."

Wouldn't the Zetas be compelled to stop the whistleblower, because he'd be eliminating the element of doubt? Maybe they brainwash him, maybe they kill him and blame it on NASA, maybe they just talk him out of it. I don't know. But in any case they'd be directly complicit in the conspiracy. The PTBs and the Zetas would be working to the same ends. Is it a stretch to think they'd be working together directly as well?

One more thing to think about. Nancy says that NASA discovered Planet X in 1983 using IRAS and the coverup only began after an initial accidental press conference. Wouldn't announcing the presence of Planet X eliminate the element of doubt as well? The Zetas couldn't let that happen; it'd be against their vaunted STO moral code... now where do you suppose NASA could find the resources to pay off every space agency, university, and amateur astronomer in the world?