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forgot to change that again.

If GLP isn't here, it won't be because of some big disaster.

Anyway, just a few pages back I predicted this:

[link to www.cnn.com]

Circuit Breaker right again!

>> Max is going to spin, that's his recreation.

No - it's my charitable contribution. A public service dedicated to the growth and advancement of the human race.

She never said that.

Liar. Yes she did. I know the quote off by heart. She said it right here on one of her stupid chat threads.

"2012 is too far out".

Max caught in a not so white lie AGAIN!

I was responding to CB's assertion that she meant "years" before 2012.

I am watching an Alex Collier video series tonight. FASCINATING!!! In this one, he teaches us, how we are to introduce ourselves to extraterrestrials.



Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 04/14/2011 11:52 PM

Caught in another lie. Show me where CB asserted that she meant years before 2012. I bet you can't. But that said, according to Nancy it was all supposed to happen in 2003, then 2004, then came the white lie, and a couple of years ago she said it would happen soon, 2012 is too far out. CB only pointed out that we are less than a year away, and back when she said it, she said it was imminent. What a fucking liar and spin master you are.

`Greetings Overlords from Space- I am main course, this charming woman is my wife entrée and this beautiful young girl here is my daughter dessert'

Alex Collier....
jeez melfy- you certainly know how to pick em don't you....

(slaps forehead)

"The Zetas will not give a date beyond saying that 2012 is too far out, for the pole shift." – February 18, 2006 on GLP.

Yep I wonder most times what the REAL DEAL is with Melfy. One minute he's the No 1 supporter of Zetababble. Next instance he claims NOT to be a follower of zetababble. Then he transforms into some bystanding Fence Shitter of all things zetababble.

Then we have Melfy portraying himself as some great sober intellect who is a lawyer amongst other professions. And besides ALL these things he apparently survived being killed or severely injured in the 911 attacks of 2001.

Yet incredibily Melfy is so naive he's able to blindly and foolhardily "believe" in any woowoo available out there in internet land.

Once again I ask...............because you seem to possess MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES and all under the same one name!!

Maybe is it possible that you don't even really know who you are yourself, Melfy!!

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 04/15/2011 06:50 AM

Now wait for it.......SPIN MAXI SPIN!!

And before you reply to the quoted poster's statement of FACT there, Melfy.....remember you reckon you don't LIE and that you stand by every post you make?

PS: Actually we already know that you LIED a page or two ago about Nancy LIEDer saying that "2012 is too far out" for the so called coming poleshift. But seeing how you actually respond to what the poster quoted from Nancy LIEDer should be worth the price of admission.



Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 04/15/2011 07:00 AM

Well I have seen evidence that he can claim to be in a fence s(h)itter in the same sentence he's supporting nancy

considering the few (very few) instances he's actually chatted, he's given away a bit

As for his claims about being a lawyer and a 11/9 survivor- that's I find very unlikely- he has SOME of the attributes of a lawyer (the ability to say one thing while believing something else ie lie, but considering his abilities as shown here- I believe he would LIKE to be a lawyer but didn't quite make the grade....

and the sept 11 thing- welllllll......

I've never see anything to suggest its anything more than the online fantasy of an attention seeker- not one bit of evidence has ever been shown he was there and the times he has spoken of it he showed more the classic 9/11er viewpoint rather than the images and views of someone who was there
(melfy a 9/11er no tell me it ain't true...)

well he's fallen for every other crackpot idea out there...

ZetaMax - a 911 Survivor discusses the Puppet Master and 911

I AM A 911 SURVIVOR.

The human posting as ***ZetaMax*** was on the 31st Floor of Tower One of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. I was sitting in my cubicle working on a Perl program, when American Airlines Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower - the one I was working in. The details of my survival mirror thousands of others, and all-in-all, is one of the more mundane - for a day that was anything BUT. Briefly, I walked down 31 flights of stairs in about 25 minutes and exited to see TWO towers on fire. After about fifteen minutes I proceeded to walk north along the West Side Highway, and was well over a mile away when Tower Two collapsed. As a result of my wise decision to vacate the area early, the dust cloud did not reach me. Other than scaring the hell out of my family, a bad sunburn, and the loss of about $1200 dollars in personal items, 911 had little adverse impact on my life. In fact, I actually benefitted, for my contract was due to expire on September 30, but as a result of the need to retain people knowledgable about the computer infrastructure, my consulting contract was extended. It was not however a joyous time to say the least. I lost 12 co-workers, and chose to remain with other survivors who all struggled with trauma arrising from this event.

But enough about me, this thread is about how 911 came about, and who was behind it.

Nancy Leider has just revealed in her latest video:

 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

that the Zetas say the insider behind 911, was none other than the Puppet Master - an individual patriarch of an off-the-books branch of the Rothschild's Banking Dynasty.

 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Apr 7, 2007 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

Nancy is asked at least daily who the Puppet Master is, and replies in each case that this branch of the Rothchild family is not public, and any individual you can identify is not thus the Puppet Master. This is a family trust, and some family members have assets, like an allowance, to do as they wish with. Their spending money is small change, in other words! The true line in charge of the family assets went off the books decades ago, and could never be traced, nor are they even in the public records, anywhere. This is not a Service-to-Self bunch, and do not start wars for benefit.

HOW DO WE RECONCILE THESE TWO ASSERTIONS - that the Puppet Master was behind the attacks on 911, and at the same time, does not start wars for benefit???

 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: If Gore Had Prevailed
written Sep 29, 2004

Bush is not the master, but a Puppet, controlled by those with great wealth who literally own not only US corporations but by the US national debt, the political process, as well. The Bush/Cheney arm of this superstructure of world control had been letting their control of the US Military go to their heads, a restless and arrogant Puppet that was brought to heel, after many warnings, with the 911 attack.

911 was a HORRIFIC day - I know, I WAS THERE. Is there any way that I can come to embrace the idea that the Puppet Master was actually JUSTIFIED in manipulating events such that this day of infamy resulted? It seems an impossible task - what POSSIBLE justification could there be - especially for a claimed non-Service-to-Self group - to bring about such shocking destruction, pain and devastation to thousands of individuals, families, the United States - even the World as a whole???

Let's together consider a few "unpleasant," in point of fact, "unsavory" realities. There are times in life, when an individual is presented with a classic DOUBLE BIND. A true "Damned if you do", "Damned if you don't" scenario. This is a mixed orientation world - with the seven percent (or so) truly dedicated STS individuals clamoring in every way IMAGINABLE for ultimate power - to the extent their skill, cunning and audacity permit. Anyone who opposes their agendas is fighting a CONSTANT, RUNNING BATTLE without let-up. Eternal vigilence is not just advisable, it is REQUIRED. (Note the battle with the STS debunkers in Nancy's threads - unrelenting, and fought without quarter. Any and all weaknesses are exploited, and Machiavellian manipulation is CONSTANT). On a much BIGGER STAGE, the Puppet Master is engaged in the EXACT SAME running battle with those who would enslave the entire human race. There, the weapons are not just words, but endless money, power politics, arms - and even weapons of mass destruction.

The STS group obey NO RULES other than avoidance of disadvantage whenever possible or prudent. This automatically places the non-STS on an UN-LEVEL playing field - for the STS are unhindered by humanitarian concerns, and the STO-leaning are often OBESSED with them. This otherwise nearly untenable discrepancy is otherwise compensated by the reality that the STO- leaning WORK TOGETHER AND CO-OPERATE as a unified force - ONE TEAM. This not only gives them a "fighting chance" in an otherwise wholly lopsided arrangement, IT ACTUALLY ASSURES ULTIMATE VICTORY. Nevertheless, that victory does NOT come free of costs - many being QUITE high. And some? - HORRIFICALLY SO.

Consider, Bush and company steal the election from Gore with the express intent of using the Military to essentially "conquer the world" - for all practical purposes. To create the pre-text for such a campaign, the Puppet Master learns of plans to engage in false-flag terror. It is pretty well accepted that there is compelling evidence that the Bush administration had threatened the Taliban with invasion BEFORE 911 - and that in fact there was an invasion planned for October of 2001 as leaked around June/July of 2001. It should be clear to nearly EVERYONE by now, that Bush and crew were planning their revenge on Sadaam Hussein LONG BEFORE 911.

So again, the Puppet Master learns of plans for false-flag terror. Unable to use his influence to prevent such attempts directly, he is FORCED to consider other alternatives. Keep in mind, that as a member of MJ12, the Puppet Master knows of the Zetas first hand - in full consciousness. Nevertheless, PRIOR to 911, the Council of Worlds had NOT yet made the exception to the non-interference rule allowing the Zetas and other extraterrestrial races to assist humans in preventing 911 false-flag terror events. Prior to 911, THIS WAS ALL IN THE HANDS OF MAN.

So - you've got a rogue puppet, bent on world domination with control of the largest and most powerful military in the world - planning a sizable false-flag terror incident to justify a global military campaign of conquest. You can't stop the attempt, and in fact are left essentially with one and only one viable option - PRE-EMPT IT. With careful planning, the tables could be turned on the would be oppressors - by damaging them where it most hurts - the POCKET-BOOK. In addition, the whole thing could be staged to actually REDUCE collateral damage and the needless loss of human life TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. Consider, how much MORE compelling would the case for war be if the Towers were to collapse at FULL CAPACITY?? Consider that the Pentagon was hit in a relatively UN-OCCUPIED area. Who-ever was manipulating the events of 911, was CLEARLY DOING DAMAGE CONTROL - something that would --NOT-- have been in the best interests of Bush and company. For *them* - the more damage, the more loss of life, the more HORROR, the +++BETTER+++. Instead, they were forced to have to RESPOND instead of initiate - a position of ABSOLUTE DISADVANTAGE.

If the Puppet Master was indeed behind the events of 911, and indeed is of an STO bent, then he certainly AGONIZED over the decision to assist it's manifestation. He chose to do so, if the argument holds, because in his assessment, there were no other "effective" options available. **THIS** was the lesser of two evils.

While I am still personally SKEPTICAL that **NO** other less horrific and violent options were available, knowing the nature of war as I do, and the inevitable confrontation with disagreeable turns-of-events, sometimes to do NOTHING is the GREATER of evils.

I DO NOT CONDONE the events of 911 - but I will stop short of condemning the Puppet Master given the difficulties, complexity, and limitations of his power and capabilities.

I'm keeping an open mind - and I hope you will as well. In the final analysis, the ULTIMATE IRONY may indeed be, that as shocking as it might be to actually contemplate, I in fact may own my very life, to the actions ... of the Puppet Master.


LINK TO ORIGINAL THREAD:

Thread: ZetaMax - a 911 Survivor discusses the Puppet Master and 911

Talk about being fucked up in the head.

I hope you're just trolling again.

has he ever done anything BUT troll?

(bad move melfy bringing up the older posts you made- I went back into your older posts and man- it paints you in a less and less nicer way the further back I go- I had forgotten how plain nasty you were back when you and luser 78 were pals)

[link to au.search.yahoo.com]

o...k....




:-O

so even back then your then `latest cliff' rang your bullshit meter alarms twice in a week (apparently in a fairly major way)

not the greys come from epsilon a/ no they come from epsilon alpha type disagreement
but a major parting of the ways concerning their very style of existence..


and yet despite your bullshit alarm going off, you then turn around and take his word for gospel a bit later on...


Excuse me if I find this a bit `unusual'

If a guy tried to sell me a ford 4x4 and I went out and it had a holden badge on the bonnet

then he tells me its not a ford but a mercedes...


well yes it has mercedes on a hand written piece of paper on the back seat

finally he says its a mazda (as I could see all along unlike `some' and says now its a mazda- I'll sell it to you cheap....

would you buy it?

by now I would have walked away (most sane people would have)

but maxipad would not only buy it , but buy the `mercedes' in the next garage sight unseen, because he hadn't been `fooled' like all the rest of us debunker/suckers

Nine years later he is still insisting he owns a mercedes- that he's never seen, in fact no one has ever- it has no plates, no vin no, no nothing- but we will all be SOOO jealous....SOON when he's driving around in it....


(well it makes as much sense as anything melfy has put forward...)

Notice Max changing the subject of how he lied about the infamous "2012 is too far out" quote and how he doesn't just man up and admit he misconstrued CB's comment. Typical dishonest loser behaviour that we have come to expect from Maxipads

:spinn:

Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 04/15/2011 10:54 AM

True, but by the end of September, we'll know for sure whether it's Niburu, or just another "dirty snowball" flying through space.

>> ... bad move

Have I "ever" had a good one? (And who is this dude "melfy" you keep refferring to?)

Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 04/15/2011 10:59 AM

How absurd ... EVERYONE knows that Holden is owned and operated by China's number one maker of automobiles.

the dream will finish unless love is found

Nice to see you admit you are spinning like a top.

see thats the difference

`WE' are already sure- that it will be like the millions/billions of previous n.e.e its survived just fine in the previous billion years

maxipad on the other hand is sure that `SOOON' it will unique in killing us all off (yet again... like the 200 debacle, or like the time we all died in 2003, or in 2004 or in 2005 or in 2006....)

OH WAIT

THATS RIGHT....

maxipads `rate of accuracy' is as good as nancys- piss poor in fact at none for none

AND AFTER november- maxipad will be still babbling `its SOOOON'and falling- yet AGAIN for the next doom merchant...

saying `just you wait... by January we will know for sure THIS TIME that it's (insert next doomers `prediction') or just another mundane thing that has happened a million times before like everyone else is saying....

yes we will wait, and yet again be shown to be right....

`soon' right melfy????

PMSL

PMSL

you dont even know who holden is do you???

[link to www.heraldsun.com.au]

holden (also known as GMH) has made its first profit in 5 years - after REFUSING to bail out its American partner (GMC) again to the tune of 1/2 a billion dollars a year)

GMH has listened to its Australian owners and stockholders and will no longer allow open ended `loans' to GMC, and is in the process of trying to recover the money that has been sent overseas to GMC in a series of misleading trading tactics that have drawn the interest of the Australian public and Government under the Fair Trading Act

Maybe part of the reason why zetas are always wrong is because they are giving dates that contain zeros. As we all know, the super advanced zeta number system and math doesn't use a zero. That's why nothing happened in 2003 (two zeros) or in 2010 (two zeros again). In fact, it's safe to say that we have nothing to worry about until 2111, the first future year with no zeros. The zetas are very advanced until you throw zeros at them. It confuses them. (Note to Nancy: You may use this excuse if you like. It makes a shitload more sense than anything you can come up with on your own, and you are going to need some good ones in the next few months if you expect to keep your pathetic little doom cult going past this summer.)