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KeepingItReal User ID: 1038225 Canada 04/19/2011 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
**ZetaMax** User ID: 659599 United States 04/19/2011 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you have proof of this? Of course you don't. You just buy into any conspiracy because you like to feel like a helpless victim waiting for some supernatural event to redeem you. It's much easier than owning up to your part in the mess this world is in and doing something to change it. It's much easier to blame the boogeymen that hide under your bed and seek guidance from B movies and youtube videos and every internet doom charlatan that crosses your path. What a pathetic waste of life. Quoting: KeepingItRealProof??? Of course I *don't* have proof. How could I when by some estimates, as much as one third of all "government" documents produced since the United States was founded are, and remain, CLASSIFIED. Almost no one disputes that the single largest repository of written knowledge on THE PLANET is the Vatican Library - and "who" has access to THAT??? Certainly not anyone I know personally. Heck - we can't even get the recipe for Coca-Cola! And you want "proof?". Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 04/19/2011 03:12 PM |
Setheory User ID: 869850 United States 04/19/2011 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No - they're preparing for something else entirely. Of that, I am SURE. And the "outward" appearance of hostilities between the U.S., Russia and China is just that: APPEARANCES. When it comes to riding out whatever it is that threatens our planet in the near term, they (the LEADERS, intelligence communities and industrialists) are ALL on the same page. The movie 2012 made that ABUNDANTLY clear. Quoting: **ZetaMax**And don’t forget, there are dozens of YouTube videos with sinister background music that also hint at this. Let’s not rely on reason or critical thinking. Let’s depend on YouTube and “the movies” to discern what is really going on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1167045 United States 04/19/2011 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For a softball ribbing made in jest? Quoting: **ZetaMax**I went back and took a look, that was clearly not in jest and I can see why you didn't want to admit to it to my face. It's easy to accuse someone of lying behind their back when they're not around to defend themselves. Thanks to everyone who stuck up for me. I'm just glad you're still here. For some reason I hadn't seen you for a while. |
**ZetaMax** User ID: 659599 United States 04/19/2011 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No - they're preparing for something else entirely. Of that, I am SURE. And the "outward" appearance of hostilities between the U.S., Russia and China is just that: APPEARANCES. When it comes to riding out whatever it is that threatens our planet in the near term, they (the LEADERS, intelligence communities and industrialists) are ALL on the same page. The movie 2012 made that ABUNDANTLY clear. Quoting: **ZetaMax**And don’t forget, there are dozens of YouTube videos with sinister background music that also hint at this. Let’s not rely on reason or critical thinking. Let’s depend on YouTube and “the movies” to discern what is really going on. >> Let’s not rely on reason or critical thinking. So you're saying you have a "security clearance"? A **HUGE** chunk of both science and history is sealed off from public view - am I supposed to be 'content' with that reality? Am I supposed to assume that what is available for public consumption is 'accurate'? Am I to ignore Churchill's quip about truth being so precious it needed to be surrounded with a "bodyguard of lies"??? Please explain this "critical" thinking that reflects "reason" while cordoned off from as much as one third of humanities true collective knowledge ... Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 04/19/2011 05:16 PM |
**ZetaMax** User ID: 659599 United States 04/19/2011 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples: Quoting: KeepingItRealShe suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks. LINK - or it didn't happen ... |
Menow User ID: 1325407 United States 04/19/2011 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 1325407There is NEVER any "afterwards" for you people. There is ALWAYS a new date in the future. We were told to wait until May 2003, when we would be sorry for our debunking. Here it is 2011 and we'er STILL supposed to wait for "afterwards"?? The next major doom date will be 2020, I think. :soonx: How does a person come to view being a constant jackass as a viable choice for personal expression? Your efforts at "social engineering" are pretty non-stop - so any opposition to it must be "constant" as well ... Not that I harbor any illusions about my "effectiveness" - which I fully admit would be "difficult to measure". If I've done nothing more than persuade you that "peer pressure" doesn't work on "everybody" - then I've succeeded to my satisfaction. You're paranoid AND delusional AND a constant jackass. |
**ZetaMax** User ID: 659599 United States 04/19/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: **ZetaMax**How does a person come to view being a constant jackass as a viable choice for personal expression? Your efforts at "social engineering" are pretty non-stop - so any opposition to it must be "constant" as well ... Not that I harbor any illusions about my "effectiveness" - which I fully admit would be "difficult to measure". If I've done nothing more than persuade you that "peer pressure" doesn't work on "everybody" - then I've succeeded to my satisfaction. You're paranoid AND delusional AND a constant jackass. Gee - I would think the "paranoid" ones are the dudes hiding one third of humanities collective knowledge. |
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The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1346200 New Zealand 04/19/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LINK - or it didn't happen ... Quoting: **ZetaMax**Um unlike your FAILED predictions it did happen that Nancy your "numbnuts" LIEDer did say such a thing as was stated by KIR......that; She suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life.. I remember Nancy saying such a thing and anyway KIR's word is reliable enough. Why do you so insist a "Stinky Linky" from that now defunct and obscure website Zetatalk? Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1346200 New Zealand 04/19/2011 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples: Quoting: KeepingItRealShe suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks. LINK - or it didn't happen ... Here's your Stinky Linky, Melfster..... [link to zetatalk.com] ....and I quote....."The best solution was one given to our Emissary, Nancy, years ago, which she detailed as a trench solution. Not underground, buried, but only a shallow trench. Cover this by a metal sheet, well anchored, or board covered by sod so they will not burn. This provides cover from the wind, from firestorms, and a long trench of this nature will not have all the oxygen sucked out in case of even a firestorm overhead." and then.......I quote.....One cannot be dashed, as the most one laying in a shallow trench can be thrown is a few inches to the side. Thus, except for what may fall upon this covered trench, no worry. No worry there, Nancy you fool!!!! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My GOD you guys are still obsessed with ZetaTalk! Wonder why that is? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347176It see the latest on the sinking in Indonesia (which is ongoing and happening) see the Newsletters: [link to www.zetatalk.com] latest one gave 3 very good examples of the 80 foot drop in PLACES (uneven pace). Medan, in Sumatra, very good example. 3rd largest city in Indonesia. My GOD...you actually believe Indonesia is sinking? Can you find evidence to support your claims that come from sources OTHER than ZetaTalk? No, I thought not. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy? Is that you? Or maybe Gerardtard? Inconsiderate is Nancy. Nice way to treat potential believers! Nice way to spread that STO helping hand and "get the message out". Quoting: KeepingItRealI got banned from the ning simply by asking why the tornadoes this past week were so unusual. Instead of answering the question, they deleted what I posted and banned me so I sent a message to the administrator telling them they just lost a believer because it's obvious the debunkers are right...Nancy is scared shitless of anyone asking questions. I'll just create another account using a different email address. Problem solved. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309084 United States 04/19/2011 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ZetaMax NLI User ID: 1349028 United States 04/19/2011 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But "look" at ALL the 'useful' THINGS Nancy has "told" PEOPLE! 1) Eat sheetrock wall covering, because it's high in calcium! That's TRUE and GOOD ADVICE! 2) Kill your pets because if you don't THEY WILL KILL YOU! 3) Corpses will be plentiful after the Pole Shift. NOM NOM NOM! 4) DIY birth control? Sure, just drill a hole in your penis and then plug it with a CORK! These are just a few "EXAMPLES" of 'Nancy's' WISDOM. YOU can't ARGUE the 'TRUTH' of them. Ooops, have to go, unless I am quite mistaken that's Andrew's sly tongue sliding up my anus! Ta! AaaaaAAAAAAAaAaAaaaaaAAAA! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So lets see: Quoting: **ZetaMax**Nevada had 46 quakes in a 14 hour period. Bermuda had a 4.6 Chili a 5.2 San Francisco a 3.8 and New Zealand 6.6 ALL IN ONE DAY. Anyone here still want to argue that this is somehow "normal"??? Can you present historical data showing that it isn't? A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hopefully none of the believers at that time actually fixed themselves only to find that the pole shift never came and they would never have children. Quoting: KeepingItRealPersonally, if they were dumb enough to listen to Nancy and do what she told them then they don't need to have any children. That would just serve to pollute the gene pool even more. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you have proof of this? Of course you don't. You just buy into any conspiracy because you like to feel like a helpless victim waiting for some supernatural event to redeem you. It's much easier than owning up to your part in the mess this world is in and doing something to change it. It's much easier to blame the boogeymen that hide under your bed and seek guidance from B movies and youtube videos and every internet doom charlatan that crosses your path. What a pathetic waste of life. Quoting: KeepingItRealIt's funny how much time and energy Max puts in to disasters that are either imaginary or extremely unlikely to ever happen instead of putting that effort in to preparing for something that can and likely will happen. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1332648 United States 04/19/2011 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's your Stinky Linky, Melfster..... [link to zetatalk.com] Quoting: The Lone Ranger....and I quote....."The best solution was one given to our Emissary, Nancy, years ago, which she detailed as a trench solution. Not underground, buried, but only a shallow trench. Cover this by a metal sheet, well anchored, or board covered by sod so they will not burn. This provides cover from the wind, from firestorms, and a long trench of this nature will not have all the oxygen sucked out in case of even a firestorm overhead." and then.......I quote.....One cannot be dashed, as the most one laying in a shallow trench can be thrown is a few inches to the side. Thus, except for what may fall upon this covered trench, no worry. No worry there, Nancy you fool!!!! Ouch! What say you now, Max? A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1346200 New Zealand 04/19/2011 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hopefully none of the believers at that time actually fixed themselves only to find that the pole shift never came and they would never have children. Quoting: KeepingItRealPersonally, if they were dumb enough to listen to Nancy and do what she told them then they don't need to have any children. That would just serve to pollute the gene pool even more. Now surely you cannot get more STO than that. I mean who ever said that the debunkers were never looking out for the betterment of mankind. Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1346200 New Zealand 04/19/2011 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the year 2012. Yes, shit hits the fan - big time - this year. The end of the story ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309084Well actually there is a much bigger EVENT taking place on planet Earth come January 1st 2012..... Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1349150 Australia 04/19/2011 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Going around and telling them it won't happen, making believers sound like crazy people, and being mean to them WILL CONTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE'S DEATHS by discouraging them from preparing their resources!!! Quoting: Lady ImpossibilityPeople said *precisely* the same thing to me at Y2K. Yet my prognostications and preparations turned out to be exactly the right thing to do. Why? Because I *understood* what could happen, and what could *not* happen. What the debunkers discourage here is adherence to *ignorance.* We, as a species, have very advanced ways of preparing for any number of eventualities, but given finite resources, it makes sense to prepare for events that are actually *possible.* The "off budget" secret government has spent TRILLIONS building underground facilities. FOR WHAT?? And don't tell me "nuclear war" because EVERYONE has "bunker busters" that for a mere seven figures can turn a 10 figure facility into GARBAGE. No - they're preparing for something else entirely. Of that, I am SURE. And the "outward" appearance of hostilities between the U.S., Russia and China is just that: APPEARANCES. When it comes to riding out whatever it is that threatens our planet in the near term, they (the LEADERS, intelligence communities and industrialists) are ALL on the same page. The movie 2012 made that ABUNDANTLY clear. Actually i think most bunker busters are useless take the 2700kg war head MOP hooked up to the b2 bomber It can reach penetrate 60m in 5000psi reinforced concrete or 8m through 10000psi The University of Tehran has made concrete 50,000 to 60,000 psi mix made from quartz and steel fibers. This before traditional reinforcement. So how affective are those bunker busters really |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1038225 Canada 04/19/2011 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples: Quoting: KeepingItRealShe suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks. LINK - or it didn't happen ... Wow. Took me less than 10 seconds to find one. All I did was google metal sod wind Nancy Lieder and came up with this: com/profiles/blogs/personal-decisions?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A25614&page=2 I remember on one of her chat threads here she said that one must hold the sheet metal to prevent it from blowing away. We had a good laugh about that one. Can't be bothered to search for it, but I'm sure others will remember as well. |
KeepingItReal User ID: 1038225 Canada 04/19/2011 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you have proof of this? Of course you don't. You just buy into any conspiracy because you like to feel like a helpless victim waiting for some supernatural event to redeem you. It's much easier than owning up to your part in the mess this world is in and doing something to change it. It's much easier to blame the boogeymen that hide under your bed and seek guidance from B movies and youtube videos and every internet doom charlatan that crosses your path. What a pathetic waste of life. Quoting: KeepingItRealProof??? Of course I *don't* have proof. How could I when by some estimates, as much as one third of all "government" documents produced since the United States was founded are, and remain, CLASSIFIED. Almost no one disputes that the single largest repository of written knowledge on THE PLANET is the Vatican Library - and "who" has access to THAT??? Certainly not anyone I know personally. Heck - we can't even get the recipe for Coca-Cola! And you want "proof?". I see max has a head start celebrating 4/20. So you are saying that since there are classified documents and we don't know what's in them, then it must mean they contain the wildest paranoia driven speculation that can be imagined? Fuck you are a moron! Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
KeepingItReal User ID: 1038225 Canada 04/20/2011 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops, link didn't paste here is your link Maxi, from the ning: [link to poleshift.ning.com] Last Edited by KeepingItReal on 04/20/2011 12:03 AM Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
prof-rabbit nli User ID: 1349307 Australia 04/20/2011 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bravo!!! Well done! Yes - if flagrant and unwarranted "character assassination" is your thing. Melfey, you don't have a character in the first place! Your just an odd sock that Nancy puts her hand up to hide from reality! |
aussie 763624 User ID: 763624 Singapore 04/20/2011 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Melfey, you don't have a character in the first place! Your just an odd sock that Nancy puts her hand up to hide from reality! Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 1349307I don't know about that Prof... I think he has a quite distinct character indeed It's a shame it's so unpleasant (oh BTW maxipad) SLAP `soon' (every time maxipad uses that word I inwardly cringe and want to slap him around the head at the same- tell the boy to wake up to himself) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17230 Germany 04/20/2011 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The movie "Knowing" delivered the same message - except in that one the "elect" were a small number of children. Quoting: **ZetaMax**The Movie delivered a message. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. If any, its probably not the one you have understood. About 27.06.2011 Page 1000 will be reached About 03.06.2014 Page 2000 will be reached Reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008. 890 days gone, 256 days to go until Nancys final failure (at 1.1.2012) |
**ZetaMax** User ID: 1332505 United States 04/20/2011 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Nancy's survival guide is full of things that embody what you shouldn't do. Here are some examples: Quoting: KeepingItRealShe suggested digging a trench and covering it with sheet metal topped with moss. She said when the pole shift winds come, one must get in the trench and hold onto the metal for dear life. Just envisioning that is hilarious, but when you stop to consider there are actually people out there that think this makes sense, my heart sinks. LINK - or it didn't happen ... Wow. Took me less than 10 seconds to find one. All I did was google metal sod wind Nancy Lieder and came up with this: com/profiles/blogs/personal-decisions?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A25614&page=2 I remember on one of her chat threads here she said that one must hold the sheet metal to prevent it from blowing away. We had a good laugh about that one. Can't be bothered to search for it, but I'm sure others will remember as well. Hope you "enjoyed" your laugh - I assure you, you won't have the last one. The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes. By itself though, the protection is only partial. To increase the protective capacity, some cover is necessary. Now I said "link or it didn't happen" - and I was RIGHT. You used the word "moss" instead of the word "sod" which may mean the same thing in Australia or the UK, but in the United States where Nancy resides, and who she has stated was her target audience, "moss" and "sod" are VERY different. Moss is a distinct plant: Mosses are small, soft plants that are typically 1–10 cm (0.4–4 in) tall, though some species are much larger. They commonly grow close together in clumps or mats in damp or shady locations. They do not have flowers or seeds, and their simple leaves cover the thin wiry stems. At certain times mosses produce spore capsules which may appear as beak-like capsules borne aloft on thin stalks. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sod on the other hand, is surface grass, PLUS a good deal of topsoil - at least two to three inches thick: Sod or turf is grass and the part of the soil beneath it held together by the roots, or a piece of thin material. The term sod may be used to mean turf grown and cut specifically for the establishment of lawns. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sod - even one layer will increase the protective qualities of the trench by a VERY significant factor. It will provide some radiation insulation, as well as heat and fire protection due to its moisture content. But for complete protection against gamma radiation from the sun, as well as intense firestorms, a minimum of THREE FEET would be necessary. It would be a LOT of work to build this with only hand tools, but it's do-able. Of course you would need something to support the "sod" - such as a sheet of plywood, or doors, a large tabletop, etc. Even box springs would work in a pinch. As far as the "sheet metal" goes, she was actually referring to a CAR HOOD - which being held on with only four bolts, is ideal as a cover in an emergency, and when time IS NOT AVAILABLE. She offered this suggestion for those caught in the open with maybe only minutes to find or create some form of protection. Someone who has a wrench can even assist other motorists to use their hood as well. And yes, if there was NO TIME to cover the hood with dirt, there would be no choice but to literally hold on to it - but not so tightly that if the wind got underneath, that you allow it make you a "passenger". yes, it is a FAR from ideal form of protection, but its BETTER THAN NOTHING. Do you have a BETTER suggestion if caught out in the open with no other protection available? The only preparation needed is a cresent wrench - which one can get for about twenty dollars at any hardware store and throw in the glove box or trunk. How is doing that "insane"? Pray tell ... |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 1349596 New Zealand 04/20/2011 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The narrow trench, just wide enough to wedge yourself in, is actually a brilliantly simple idea that is easy to create in just an hour or two, and one that will provide an ample amount of protection against high winds, firestorms, and richtor 9 earthquakes. Quoting: **ZetaMax**Yep GLP Melfdown for sure PS: When you experience your next ARRIVAL of the PX and hence the next scheduled pole shifting EVENT could you please get back to us Melfy on how the "trench" went for ya after the 9 mag earthquake....with you lying down inside it of course!!!! You're a zidiot for sure, Melfster. Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 04/20/2011 08:43 AM Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |