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The Lone Ranger  (OP)

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Hey Max...less than 9 months left until you admit that Nancy is full of shit.

Tick tock...
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>> The woo-woos are clueless about real astronomy, they don't realize, or they refuse to acknowledge, that most comets receive no media attention at all.

Nonsense - of course I'm aware that "most" comets do not get, and do not warrant media attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Good, then you realize that this comet does not yet warrant significant MSM attention.
Who's been harping (Pun intended) for years "if PX was real, every amateur in the world would be screaming about it".

Well GUESS WHAT!!!???? It's amateurs who can see this thing through their personal equipment DOING THE SCREAMING. Who do you think is sounding the alarm on this????
 Quoting: zm

As 74444 asked, show us where amateur astronomers who are imaging Elenin claim it's something to be worried about, let alone that it's "planet x."
 Quoting: Astronut


You asked for it - I *deliver*:

[link to sydneystargazers.com]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Aside from the fact that these guys seem new to astronomy, I don't see anywhere where they claim Elenin will bring doom, do you?
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Hey Max...less than 9 months left until you admit that Nancy is full of shit.

Tick tock...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96644


And if Elenin should by chance turn out to be Planet X - are you gonna buy *ME* a steak before sfan ???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Um you will be buying yourself your very own steak, Melfy, or maybe even having one on your barbeque as you will have extra time on your hands when you will be receiving something of much greater value than a juicy steak.....tlrBan

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As expected...you get all your science knowledge from the "moovies" and woo-woo YouTube videos.
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lolsign.......so true!!

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Now we all know how ZM keeps going on about how he is treated unfairly by the other participants on our thread. But seriously Melfy you bring disdain upon yourself from the others here because of little "gems" like this incident quoted below....(well actually I call it a little gem for ALL the wrong reasons)....

From page 494 of this thread...

ME ME ME

did I get page 400??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624


Bump for 500 ;o)

bump

JWD
 Quoting: J.William Dell


The "traitor" is back!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


ZetaMax you have no one else to blame but yourself.
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The nucleus is what Bruce Willis was drilling in the movie "Armageddon". A coma is the current state of your brain activity.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ohhhh...I'm so insulted! Yeah, right.

Considering who the attempted insult is coming from, it doesn't bother me a bit.

As for your supposed intelligence, I'm amazed that you can put together a valid algorithm. Your computer coding must be a frigging nightmare to read - I guess that's your idea of job security because no one else could figure out your logic.

Same for your supposed law degree...probably got out of that career field because you couldn't put together a logical defense or legal brief.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Now we all know how ZM keeps going on about how he is treated unfairly by the other participants on our thread. But seriously Melfy you bring disdain upon yourself from the others here because of little "gems" like this incident quoted below....(well actually I call it a little gem for ALL the wrong reasons)....

From page 494 of this thread...

ME ME ME

did I get page 400??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624


Bump for 500 ;o)

bump

JWD
 Quoting: J.William Dell


The "traitor" is back!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


ZetaMax you have no one else to blame but yourself.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


shame someone took huge chunks out of the thread so the page numbers dont line up anymore

LOL- back when I was a nony mouse 763624
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Same for your supposed law degree...probably got out of that career field because you couldn't put together a logical defense or legal brief.
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I wonder if he believes that the "evidence" that he accepts as proof of "Nibiru" would pass the evidentiary rules that he learned in law school?
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>> The woo-woos are clueless about real astronomy, they don't realize, or they refuse to acknowledge, that most comets receive no media attention at all.

Nonsense - of course I'm aware that "most" comets do not get, and do not warrant media attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Good, then you realize that this comet does not yet warrant significant MSM attention.
Who's been harping (Pun intended) for years "if PX was real, every amateur in the world would be screaming about it".

Well GUESS WHAT!!!???? It's amateurs who can see this thing through their personal equipment DOING THE SCREAMING. Who do you think is sounding the alarm on this????
 Quoting: zm

As 74444 asked, show us where amateur astronomers who are imaging Elenin claim it's something to be worried about, let alone that it's "planet x."
 Quoting: Astronut


You asked for it - I *deliver*:

[link to sydneystargazers.com]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Aside from the fact that these guys seem new to astronomy, I don't see anywhere where they claim Elenin will bring doom, do you?
 Quoting: Astronut



Well no .... they are not exactly predicting Elenin "doom" ... but they are displaying some small amout of confusion, and that is ENOUGH for discerning folks like moi to "detect" nascent DOOOM.
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The nucleus is what Bruce Willis was drilling in the movie "Armageddon". A coma is the current state of your brain activity.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ohhhh...I'm so insulted! Yeah, right.

Considering who the attempted insult is coming from, it doesn't bother me a bit.

As for your supposed intelligence, I'm amazed that you can put together a valid algorithm. Your computer coding must be a frigging nightmare to read - I guess that's your idea of job security because no one else could figure out your logic.

Same for your supposed law degree...probably got out of that career field because you couldn't put together a logical defense or legal brief.
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He doesn't have a law degree and cannot practice law.

Thank goodness.
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Most of the above. I suggest you ponder it on your own, rather than shrieking questions at me.
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It would be nice if you point out the 'not' most part. Thank you.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No. Thank you.
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And you wonder why I behave "badly" - because it makes no difference in the way I'm treated. If you're locked in a china shop with no out - why *not* entertain yourself by breaking the china? I've written you off as a conversation partner a long time ago - so trust me, you're *games* do not bother me. I can always try anew, but you know what they say "It takes two to tango".
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You shat upon any and all trust in your intentions long ago by being a perpetual jerkwad. It is nobody's fault but your own, so don't play 'hurt', now.
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Well no .... they are not exactly predicting Elenin "doom" ... but they are displaying some small amout of confusion, and that is ENOUGH for discerning folks like moi to "detect" nascent DOOOM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And you claim to have a "law degree"!

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Same for your supposed law degree...probably got out of that career field because you couldn't put together a logical defense or legal brief.
 Quoting: bob_909

I wonder if he believes that the "evidence" that he accepts as proof of "Nibiru" would pass the evidentiary rules that he learned in law school?
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Sure - it would be "allowed" to be argued. Whether a jury would buy it though is highly doubtful, for there would be DEBUNKER prosecuting attornies who would be playing on and capitalizing on the intellectual and emotional immaturity of MOST juries, and therefore would probably prevail. Just remember that a "verdict" is not "truth". Plenty of innocent folks are rotting in prison because they had incompetant counsel, and were up against HIGHLY motivated prosecutors.

Attornies are "ethically" bound NOT to play on the emotional prejudices of a jury - yet, any attorney who DOESN'T do this is an ineffective FOOL.

Better to get out of the practice if one's standards prevent one from playing this "game" with people's lives.

SO I DID.

I completed law school in two and a half years - it is not even "allowed" to do it any faster than that.

I passed the bar in the top 20% of test takers.

I couldn't stomach the ACTUAL practice - the built-in advantage the upper class enjoyed. The inherent unfairness of WEALTH.

So I got out - and spent the last 17 years doing something I could "stand".

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It would be nice if you point out the 'not' most part. Thank you.
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No. Thank you.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


And you wonder why I behave "badly" - because it makes no difference in the way I'm treated. If you're locked in a china shop with no out - why *not* entertain yourself by breaking the china? I've written you off as a conversation partner a long time ago - so trust me, you're *games* do not bother me. I can always try anew, but you know what they say "It takes two to tango".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You shat upon any and all trust in your intentions long ago by being a perpetual jerkwad. It is nobody's fault but your own, so don't play 'hurt', now.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


I'm not playing "hurt" - for you cannot hurt me. However, my ethical outlook embraces the notion that NO ONE should ever be completely "written off" - a shot at redemption should ALWAYS be available.

It's just sad that you apparanetly don't share that same outlook.

If you treat people as they are, you will be instrumental in keeping them as they are. If you treat them as they could be, you will help them become what they ought to be.

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BTW, Max, there is a Yahoo group dedicated to comet imaging. It's called "Comet-Images" and the folks there are discussing Elenin along with all the other normal comets visible in telescopes right now. There are LOTS of pictures. Elenin is a tiny comet compared to most.

I challenge you to take your ridiculous claims and post them there for these dedicated amateur astrophotographers to peruse. I'm sure they would get quite a chuckle out of them.
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BTW, Max, there is a Yahoo group dedicated to comet imaging. It's called "Comet-Images" and the folks there are discussing Elenin along with all the other normal comets visible in telescopes right now. There are LOTS of pictures. Elenin is a tiny comet compared to most.

I challenge you to take your ridiculous claims and post them there for these dedicated amateur astrophotographers to peruse. I'm sure they would get quite a chuckle out of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Humor is always a good thing. Plenty of studies have demonstrated that.

Just keep in mind that these are not "my" claims - for I am just a simple messenger - educating you on the perceptions of others: sane or insane, intelligent or asinine. As for me, I am perfectly **OK** with Elenin being "nothing" or "everything". Time will reveal what the TRUTH is. By July, there will be no "doubt" for ANYONE.

What's the RUSH???

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Who's been harping (Pun intended) for years "if PX was real, every amateur in the world would be screaming about it".

Well GUESS WHAT!!!???? It's amateurs who can see this thing through their personal equipment DOING THE SCREAMING. Who do you think is sounding the alarm on this????
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

They're screaming about it for entirely different reasons than they would if they were to discover a "rogue planet" heading towards Earth.

>> Comets have come through the solar system on an almost regular schedule.

Yea - well SO HAS PX.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Proof? I thought not. Your statement right there does prove one thing for sure - you aren't a fence sitter. If you were, you wouldn't have said "SO HAS PX." Instead, you would have said, "SUPPOSEDLY SO HAS PX."

>> I guess these people still have dominant Neanderthal genes thinking that comets are harbingers of doom. They probably still throw rocks towards the moon whenever they see it.

First of all - Homo Sapien Sapiens are NOT descended for "Neanderthals".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Even if what you say is true, who fucking cares? You understood the point I was making.

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shame someone took huge chunks out of the thread so the page numbers dont line up anymore

LOL- back when I was a nony mouse 763624
 Quoting: aussie 763624 763624


Yep the page numbers are a little screwy in parts. I can take some responsibility for that though. I cannot remember how many posts I actually did remove from our thread but I estimate it was around 200. They ALL belonged to that proxy poster that kept spamming our thread for a while there. DrPostman eventually did get rid of the twit but I decided to remove most of his multiple posts anyway.

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Elenin "totally" debunked as of February 19, 2011.

Oh - but didn't we have a 9.1 quake in Japan on March 11th?

Oh yea! WE DID!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

And your point is? Oh, are you trying to infer that a comet millions of miles away somehow caused the earthquake in Japan? Wow, talk about grasping at straws.

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You forgot the "ONE OF THE BIGGEST EARTHQUAKES IN RECORDED HISTORY" part.
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So? What about the 9.5 in Chile in 1960? Or the 9.2 in Alaska in 1964? Were those caused by this comet or "Planet X?"

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No. Thank you.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


And you wonder why I behave "badly" - because it makes no difference in the way I'm treated. If you're locked in a china shop with no out - why *not* entertain yourself by breaking the china? I've written you off as a conversation partner a long time ago - so trust me, you're *games* do not bother me. I can always try anew, but you know what they say "It takes two to tango".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You shat upon any and all trust in your intentions long ago by being a perpetual jerkwad. It is nobody's fault but your own, so don't play 'hurt', now.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


I'm not playing "hurt" - for you cannot hurt me. However, my ethical outlook embraces the notion that NO ONE should ever be completely "written off" - a shot at redemption should ALWAYS be available.

It's just sad that you apparanetly don't share that same outlook.

If you treat people as they are, you will be instrumental in keeping them as they are. If you treat them as they could be, you will help them become what they ought to be.

Goethe
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How many times do you think you can play people for fools and treat them like you do before they write you off? That time is waaay past for me.

Fuck right off.
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You asked for it - I *deliver*:

[link to sydneystargazers.com]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow, congratulations Max...you debunked yourself. Nowhere in that article did I see anyone screaming about this comet or make any mention of it posing a threat to Earth.
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And if Elenin should by chance turn out to be Planet X - are you gonna buy *ME* a steak before sfan ???
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How can a comet transform in to a planet?
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BTW, Max, there is a Yahoo group dedicated to comet imaging. It's called "Comet-Images" and the folks there are discussing Elenin along with all the other normal comets visible in telescopes right now. There are LOTS of pictures. Elenin is a tiny comet compared to most.

I challenge you to take your ridiculous claims and post them there for these dedicated amateur astrophotographers to peruse. I'm sure they would get quite a chuckle out of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Humor is always a good thing. Plenty of studies have demonstrated that.

Just keep in mind that these are not "my" claims - for I am just a simple messenger
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The key word here is "simple".

- educating you on the perceptions of others: sane or insane, intelligent or asinine. As for me, I am perfectly **OK** with Elenin being "nothing" or "everything". Time will reveal what the TRUTH is. By July, there will be no "doubt" for ANYONE.

What's the RUSH???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Indeed. There will be no doubt that you and others are dead wrong...as usual.
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A coma is the current state of your brain activity.
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LOL!! The irony!
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Well no .... they are not exactly predicting Elenin "doom" ... but they are displaying some small amout of confusion, and that is ENOUGH for discerning folks like moi to "detect" nascent DOOOM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Of course...because you're HypochondriMax.
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I completed law school in two and a half years - it is not even "allowed" to do it any faster than that.

I passed the bar in the top 20% of test takers.
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Well with what we have EVIDENCED on the GLP forum over the years all I can say in reference to yourself Melfster is........"Oh how the mighty have fallen."

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I'm not playing "hurt" - for you cannot hurt me. However, my ethical outlook embraces the notion that NO ONE should ever be completely "written off" - a shot at redemption should ALWAYS be available.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Try telling that to Nancy.

It's just sad that you apparently don't share that same outlook.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Neither does Nancy.

If you treat people as they are, you will be instrumental in keeping them as they are. If you treat them as they could be, you will help them become what they ought to be.

Goethe
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Again, share that wisdom with Nancy...who bans people for simply asking questions.
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Well no .... they are not exactly predicting Elenin "doom" ... but they are displaying some small amout of confusion, and that is ENOUGH for discerning folks like moi to "detect" nascent DOOOM.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

It's called a lack of experience. They're clearly new to astronomy which is why I found several mistakes not directly related to elenin on their site, one of which I posted a comment correcting. You claimed they were screaming, raising the alarm. You lied.
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And you wonder why I behave "badly" - because it makes no difference in the way I'm treated. If you're locked in a china shop with no out - why *not* entertain yourself by breaking the china? I've written you off as a conversation partner a long time ago - so trust me, you're *games* do not bother me. I can always try anew, but you know what they say "It takes two to tango".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You shat upon any and all trust in your intentions long ago by being a perpetual jerkwad. It is nobody's fault but your own, so don't play 'hurt', now.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


I'm not playing "hurt" - for you cannot hurt me. However, my ethical outlook embraces the notion that NO ONE should ever be completely "written off" - a shot at redemption should ALWAYS be available.

It's just sad that you apparanetly don't share that same outlook.

If you treat people as they are, you will be instrumental in keeping them as they are. If you treat them as they could be, you will help them become what they ought to be.

Goethe
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How many times do you think you can play people for fools and treat them like you do before they write you off? That time is waaay past for me.

Fuck right off.
 Quoting: Menow 1325407


Somehow I get the impression that even "one" is too many for YOU. Funny how you don't *get* what Goethe is saying - as if you were WISER than Goethe. But then if you were REALLY wise, your self-confidence would be so beyond the need for any kind of external validation, that the very notion of writing "anyone" off "ever" would be unnecessary.
I come to this thread EVERYDAY and have no limit of abuse showered on me CONTINUOUSLY. Yet, I remain unphased, and freely engage EVERYONE. That is not a point of curiosity for you? Now I am not saying that complete trust should always be given to everyone, all the time. That of course would be absurd. Trust is difficult to earn, and easy to lose. But those secure in their being, confident in their immortal "worth" and value as an individual, can afford to risk trusting - provisionally at least - even those who deserve trust the least. When I said everyone should always have a "road" to redemption, I didn't mean that it had to be a short one, or even a paved one.

Just a NAVIGABLE one.

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