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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
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"Microns"? I guess that puts it in perspective.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
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THREE tragic air show deaths over the weekend. Maybe the debunkers should acknowledge that "something" really is "messing" with instrumentation???

detnews.com/article/20110822/METRO03/108220350
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You're just as ignorant about aviation as nancy is.

CB is right. All flights at airshows are performed in VFR conditions. A pilot does not do aerobatics with their head in the cockpit - it's all by external VISUAL references.

"Aerobatic pilot Bryan Jensen was killed in a fiery crash during the Kansas City Aviation Expo Air Show after his Vertical Unlimited 12 biplane appeared unable to pull out of a downward spiral and nosedived near the runway and burst into flames."



"DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT WING WALKER FELL OFF WING AND WAS FATALLY INJURED DURING AIRSHOW, MOUNT CLEMENS, MI"

That's from the FAA website - how does "instrumentation failure" make a guy fall off an airplane? Most likely his safety harness failed (mechanical failure).
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


By what methodology do you scrutinize? Certainly not by past performance.

You know what? It doesn't matter. Your methodology is wholly irrational, and you don't seem to learn from past performance -- neither yours nor anyone else's.

A pity.

I'll pop in every now and again to see if Hap got his steak. But I have become bored of the thread, and of Nancy. The thread topped 1000 pages, putting to shame any thread Nancy ever posted on GLP. She fled, and I have no desire to post to her bored <spelling intentional> to get immediately banned for asking rational, polite questions. She will continue to putter along, pointlessly.

Good enough for me. I will see you all when I see you all. Thanks for many laughs and occasional insights.
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On the Susan Toro show, he discussed the "shredding" quake in North America that was to occur on August 17th. Now granted, it's not the "17th" and it's not big enough to be termed "shredding" ... BUT IT'S A START!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


:stupidstrong:

Watch and learn.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

BTW, it is NOT a start unless it continues. If it doesn't then it's just purely chance. What a life you must have - spending day after day LOOKING for doom,
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I dont trust morons.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What sources do you trust? Judging from your past, it seems you prefer the following sources:

>Prognosticators with miserable tack records.

>Authors and “researchers“ who publish claims outside of their area of expertise(if they even happen to have one).

>Anyone who happens to upload a doom video on YouTube.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

You believe to scutinize your resorces ?

Wow, this is indeed one of the best jokes i ever heard, and particular it is one of the greatest bullshit statements i ever read, equal only to the "best" ones which even Nancy has produced.

I wouldnt call that sane, btw.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You didn't scrutinize Nancy.

You didn't scrutinize Cliffy boy.

I guess that means you are not much of a truth coach.
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I don't trust the mainstream media.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And yet you believe these "prophets" who haven't gotten anything right. Amazing.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

zetasbillb
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I wouldn't be much of a "Truth Coach" if I didn't rigorously scrutinize my sources!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Truth coach? LOL!! No, no, no...truth twister or truth manipulator...maybe even truth denier would be more appropriate titles. And what scrutinizing have you done? You believe whatever they tell you.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

:zetasbillb:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Did the zetas predict Irene? No.

You really don't understand cause and effect, do you?
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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

zetasbillb
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Seriously? Here's a question for you - how exactly did their "logic" keep you out of New Jersey? They NEVER predicted this particular hurricane and such a storm has always been a possibility. One wouldn't even have needed the imaginary "Zetas" to figure this out. All one needed to do is look at the tracks of hurricanes. Without the help of the imaginary "Zetas" I already know that living anywhere on the eastern coast or along the Gulf is a risk because of the possibility of hurricanes. Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in CA will expose you to an earthquake? Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in the Mid-west presents the possibility of being hit by a tornado? Take your shilling to the ning.

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BTW, how do you know what this storm is going to do? It hasn't even made it that far north yet. It could still turn out to sea. Did you ask Clif or the "Zetas?" How's that "shredding" going for you? I'd say pretty poorly since there have been no further moderate to strong earthquakes. I guess I need to make a smilie for "Clif wrong again!" since you jumped on his bandwagon. Oh, and Oct 22 is coming up so there's still time for you to jump on Harold Camping's bandwagon as well. Perhaps you'd like to make a donation to his cause as well.

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If I hadn't have followed the "logic" of the Zetas, I would be in New Jersey right now facing the devastating onslaught of Irene!!!

zetasbillb
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Seriously? Here's a question for you - how exactly did their "logic" keep you out of New Jersey? They NEVER predicted this particular hurricane and such a storm has always been a possibility. One wouldn't even have needed the imaginary "Zetas" to figure this out. All one needed to do is look at the tracks of hurricanes. Without the help of the imaginary "Zetas" I already know that living anywhere on the eastern coast or along the Gulf is a risk because of the possibility of hurricanes. Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in CA will expose you to an earthquake? Do you need the "Zetas" to tell you that living in the Mid-west presents the possibility of being hit by a tornado? Take your shilling to the ning.

zwrong2
need

BTW, how do you know what this storm is going to do? It hasn't even made it that far north yet. It could still turn out to sea. Did you ask Clif or the "Zetas?" How's that "shredding" going for you? I'd say pretty poorly since there have been no further moderate to strong earthquakes. I guess I need to make a smilie for "Clif wrong again!" since you jumped on his bandwagon. Oh, and Oct 22 is coming up so there's still time for you to jump on Harold Camping's bandwagon as well. Perhaps you'd like to make a donation to his cause as well.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Clearly we are headed for financial collapse. According to Clif, the "just-in-time" food delivery system is perilously close to collapse. It only needs a "black swan" event - perhaps like Irene, to make it happen.

Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

_absurd

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Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

_absurd
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



He hasn't been right yet. So, until something happens exactly like he claims without any excuses afterwards, he is and always will be wrong. Period.

BTW, Irene is weakening...maximum winds are 85 mph. Barely hurricane force. So much for being a "devastating storm" for NJ.

As for your claims about the "just in time" food delivery system - that's nothing new. I certainly didn't need Clif to know that. It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that we've become to reliant on technology - ATMs, debit machines, cell phones - that a large event can take the system down. However, a storm or earthquake will NOT bring the whole system down. It will only impact the area hit by the event.

And financial collapse? Maybe - maybe not. But again, one doesn't need Clif to figure these things out. Economists know what's going on far more than Clif.

But you go ahead and live your life the scared person you seem to be...worrying about everything. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"

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Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

_absurd
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



He hasn't been right yet. So, until something happens exactly like he claims without any excuses afterwards, he is and always will be wrong. Period.

BTW, Irene is weakening...maximum winds are 85 mph. Barely hurricane force. So much for being a "devastating storm" for NJ.

As for your claims about the "just in time" food delivery system - that's nothing new. I certainly didn't need Clif to know that. It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that we've become to reliant on technology - ATMs, debit machines, cell phones - that a large event can take the system down. However, a storm or earthquake will NOT bring the whole system down. It will only impact the area hit by the event.

And financial collapse? Maybe - maybe not. But again, one doesn't need Clif to figure these things out. Economists know what's going on far more than Clif.

But you go ahead and live your life the scared person you seem to be...worrying about everything. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not "scared" ... I'm ****PREPARED****!!!!!! (Because I've HEEDED the warnings!)

My excavator to dig the slit trench that Nancy and the Zetas recommended, is fueled up and ready to go!!

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can someone tell me what is the big deal about this cat 1 hurricane?? i have seen worse soo what is the big fuzz and propaganda about this???s226
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The big deal is simply the NUMBER of people potentially impacted. The biggest problem?

POWER OUTAGES.

I was raised in Michigan, and at one point worked for the utility company there. 1996 we had a HUGE ice storm that knocked out power to most of Southeastern Michigan. Most has their power back within 3 days, but some waited more than 10. There were crews from multiple states there. A co-worker and I were on "wire-down" duty (basically - we baby sat a downed wire and made sure no one got close to it). The crew that showed up three days later was from PENNSYLVANIA.

With this storm, we're talking more severe power infrastructure damage than caused by your typical ice storm - over a MUCH bigger area and affecting magnitudes more people. If you get "significant" power outages from the Outer Banks North Carolina to Portland Maine impacting:

Washington DC
Baltimore Maryland
Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Dover Delaware
New York City
Providence Rhode Island
Hartford Connecticut
Boston Massachusetts

Consider - Hurricane Katrina affected the Saints

THIS Hurricane could DIRECTLY affect:

Washington Redskins
Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles
New York Jets
New York Giants
New England Patriots

There is not enough Power crews in the entire country to restore power to one quarter of the nation's population in a timely manner.

Most of that population is WOEFULLY prepared for ANY extended outage.

ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT YET????????
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Exactly..

that's what people don't understand..Philly and NYC etc are 8-10 inches above normal for rain for the month already..

Dr. Greg Forbes at TWC is predicting up to 10-14 additional inches of rain from this storm and with even 60-75 mph winds there will be an incredible number of trees uprooted..

when they fall..out goes the power

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some parts of that region go months without power..

no power for that length of time = anarchy imo
 Quoting: RTS 1388392


Clif is hardly "wrong" again ...

That's just SILLY!!

_absurd
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



He hasn't been right yet. So, until something happens exactly like he claims without any excuses afterwards, he is and always will be wrong. Period.

BTW, Irene is weakening...maximum winds are 85 mph. Barely hurricane force. So much for being a "devastating storm" for NJ.

As for your claims about the "just in time" food delivery system - that's nothing new. I certainly didn't need Clif to know that. It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that we've become to reliant on technology - ATMs, debit machines, cell phones - that a large event can take the system down. However, a storm or earthquake will NOT bring the whole system down. It will only impact the area hit by the event.

And financial collapse? Maybe - maybe not. But again, one doesn't need Clif to figure these things out. Economists know what's going on far more than Clif.

But you go ahead and live your life the scared person you seem to be...worrying about everything. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Here is a response to a post I did on an Irene thread!!

Thread: BREAKING ! Post Effects Of Irene Official Thread (Page 71)
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I'm not "scared" ... I'm ****PREPARED****!!!!!! (Because I've HEEDED the warnings!)

My excavator to dig the slit trench that Nancy and the Zetas recommended, is fueled up and ready to go!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


If you got prepared, then it's because you're scared. You may be prepared, but you're prepared for events that aren't going to happen...based on advise from false prophets.
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Here is a response to a post I did on an Irene thread!!

Thread: BREAKING ! Post Effects Of Irene Official Thread (Page 71)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And?
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Here is a response to a post I did on an Irene thread!!

Thread: BREAKING ! Post Effects Of Irene Official Thread (Page 71)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Like I said - it "might" be the "black swan" event that heralds REAL doom!

could be ...

maybe ...

possibly ...
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I'm not "scared" ... I'm ****PREPARED****!!!!!! (Because I've HEEDED the warnings!)

My excavator to dig the slit trench that Nancy and the Zetas recommended, is fueled up and ready to go!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


If you got prepared, then it's because you're scared. You may be prepared, but you're prepared for events that aren't going to happen...based on advise from false prophets.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I realize that some would argue that I have "too much" emotionally invested in doom, too much intellectual currency has been spent for me to ever face the enormity of my personal FAILURE.

To do so would result in complete breakdown, collapse, and utter suicidal despair so deep that it would be nigh impossible to overcome.

Maybe they're right ...

So essentially I have no CHOICE left but to say:

dwagain
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Hi guys!

peace
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I realize that some would argue that I have "too much" emotionally invested in doom, too much intellectual currency has been spent for me to ever face the enormity of my personal FAILURE.

To do so would result in complete breakdown, collapse, and utter suicidal despair so deep that it would be nigh impossible to overcome.

Maybe they're right ...

So essentially I have no CHOICE left but to say:

dwagain
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And I have no choice but to say:

100percent
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Hello Earth.
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Hello Earth.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Hey, we both have 1 point! ha ha

Peace
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Hello Earth.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Hey, we both have 1 point! ha ha

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420


Now you should have 2.
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Hello Earth.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Hey, we both have 1 point! ha ha

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420


WRONG Earth ...

(you now have TWO!)

a_ok
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:)

Now, isnt this nice?

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I have to laugh. I looked at my karma and someone said:

"Honey instead of the VINEGAR your behavior REALLY warrants!!"

LOL! MY behavior really warrants? LOL!! I wonder who left that comment...who could it possibly be...maybe Max?
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Well, it is good to laugh!

We need to do it, when we can!

Love it! *smiles*

Peace
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